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Accused U.S. drug lord eludes police - Americas- msnbc.com
Accused U.S. drug lord eludes police - Americas- msnbc.com
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Eric Holder after Figueroa?
If they wanted to capture him long time ago will be done, Dominican Rep. usually in other cases the police will hold the family of the offender until he turns himself in. they dont do it to him for 2 reasons.
#1 - He is an american citizen and dont want to take a liability on human right by
holding up his family in DR plus the threat to kill the chief of the police if any
one touches his family. #2 - there are a lot of politics, police and law staff involved so that they will
detour his whereabout.
#3 - He left the country with internal help and what was done as well sobeida why they let her out of Jail in first place?
#4 - this is just a novela drama.
what the president has said ?
#1 - He is an american citizen and dont want to take a liability on human right by
holding up his family in DR plus the threat to kill the chief of the police if any
one touches his family. #2 - there are a lot of politics, police and law staff involved so that they will
detour his whereabout.
#3 - He left the country with internal help and what was done as well sobeida why they let her out of Jail in first place?
#4 - this is just a novela drama.
what the president has said ?
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Although you have some points give the man some credits, he did scape from a US federal prison didn't he?.
He's anywhere but the DR. If captured here everyone kows he'd never make it to the police station before "comitting suicide". He's got the goods on all the top dogs here in the DR and they'd have to silence him.
I suspect he's working out a deal to turn himself in to the DEA (the only place on earth he's safe) that will include a greatly reduced sentence & witness protection program in exchange for testifying against the Dominican generals/judges/politicos he's been doing business with, IF he hasn't already been working for them undercover.
I suspect he's working out a deal to turn himself in to the DEA (the only place on earth he's safe) that will include a greatly reduced sentence & witness protection program in exchange for testifying against the Dominican generals/judges/politicos he's been doing business with, IF he hasn't already been working for them undercover.
...the second coming of Donnie Brascoe?
I don't believe it. I also don't believe that he'd have escaped from Federal Detention facilities in Atlanta or Ft. Leavenworth. MDC Guaynabo is run a little differently than other prisons in the S.E. Region and that stunt would definitely not have flown even in the low security FCI in Miami.
Nope, the guy is a career criminal who happens to be very talented at what he does and those talents include knowing who and how to con and who and how to bribe. He also has a huge, overinflated ego which is why I believe the "Mall sightings" in P.R. and I also believe that he will slip up and return to custody when this case has a little more (US) media exposure.
Remember the guy from North Carolina who was suspected of being the real Atlanta Olympic Village bomber and also blew up a couple abortion clinics? He ran up in the woods and eventually the FBI gave up looking for him. Front page headline. A couple years later he came out of the woods and was arrested, tried and sentenced on page #3. Something similar will happen here. It's just that this guy is not big news in the U.S. because there are so many bigger, badder, more dangerous druglords there.
I don't believe it. I also don't believe that he'd have escaped from Federal Detention facilities in Atlanta or Ft. Leavenworth. MDC Guaynabo is run a little differently than other prisons in the S.E. Region and that stunt would definitely not have flown even in the low security FCI in Miami.
Nope, the guy is a career criminal who happens to be very talented at what he does and those talents include knowing who and how to con and who and how to bribe. He also has a huge, overinflated ego which is why I believe the "Mall sightings" in P.R. and I also believe that he will slip up and return to custody when this case has a little more (US) media exposure.
Remember the guy from North Carolina who was suspected of being the real Atlanta Olympic Village bomber and also blew up a couple abortion clinics? He ran up in the woods and eventually the FBI gave up looking for him. Front page headline. A couple years later he came out of the woods and was arrested, tried and sentenced on page #3. Something similar will happen here. It's just that this guy is not big news in the U.S. because there are so many bigger, badder, more dangerous druglords there.
Definitely.
A security camera in a mall in Puerto Rico recently caught him and Sobeida Felix shopping at a store. Just like happened with Osama Bin Laden, the most powerful country in the world is having a little problems capturing one of the most wanted people anywhere.
Makes you wonder if the most powerful country in the world is truly powerful, or merely making the world believe it is, when it really isn't.
What a joke!
...or Noriega or Al Zawiri or "Chemical" Ali or the hundreds of others who have been bagged & tagged by U.S. Law Enforcement and Military in cooperation.
Osama Bin Laden is the result of an LE/ Military Intel partnership with a nation whose government is corrupt and fragmented on their best day (Pakistan). This will end when we cease to share intel with these snitches and spies for al qaeda.
This low life drug dealer, Figueroa will not remain on the lam for long.
Fugitive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Osama Bin Laden is alive and well because a corrupt and inept government though it was more convenience to keep him alive so the American people would buy more willingly the war in Iraq. A "weak" USA had OBL pinned down in a mountain, and instead of sending the special forces they decided to send Aghan troops to get him, now "that's a joke".
The only way Figeroa is out and about is not because he's so elusive, it's because he is feeding some agency information that is proving of use.
Whatever information he is providing must be very useful indeed because he would not be walking around malls with all the security cameras with such impunity.
Unless this guy's the next To?o Bicicleta I don't see how he can avoid capture if someone is REALLY looking for him in Puerto Rico.
Whatever information he is providing must be very useful indeed because he would not be walking around malls with all the security cameras with such impunity.
Unless this guy's the next To?o Bicicleta I don't see how he can avoid capture if someone is REALLY looking for him in Puerto Rico.
This idea is intriguing and sort of romanticize the whole affair but I don't buy this notion. If you can figure this out why wouldn't the high ranking officials and croonies that were dealing with him?, why didn't they kill him before he started blabling?.
We'd know if you were correct when he gets caugh.
I would had loved to ask him what he thought about the CIA and the US Government alleging he had the WMDs, plus what he thought of the disaster that followed the initial invasion rush. But, alas, the man that did nothing to the US is now dead.
In the mean time, the one that killed thousands of innocent people in Lower Manhattan, the one that killed many at the Pentagon (headquarters of US military, you'd think it would had been much better protected), the one that was not able to destroy maybe Capitol Hill or the White House because a group of civilians bravely fought the terrorist all the way to a field in Pennsylvania; that man responsible for all of that and more is still alive and well.
Its now a little more than 8 years since 9-11 and yet, just a few days ago Osama Bin laden emitted another threat to the most powerful country in the world that apparently is very good at diverting attention away from the real culprits and the real problem makers, but fails in finding and punishing the real enemy.
But, that's besides the point.
Let's go over a few things:
1. Figueroa is condemned for life at a maximum security jail in Puerto Rico (part of the USA, hence the jail system functions as the one's on the mainland).
2. Figueroa is freed on a false document asking for his immediate release.
3. The escapee doesn't move half way around the world, but to the DR. Other than the Virgin Islands, there is no other place on earth closer to Puerto Rico.
4. Not only does he move to the DR, but he did not planned to hide in the bush, pretend to be a tourist, blend in the crowd. Oh no, he injects himself into Dominican high society.
5. Given the high profile social circle, he constantly frequents places like Casa de Campo. Anyone that owns a property there and spends a good amount of time in CC knows that high ranking Dominican and Puerto Ricans own villas and frequent CC for weekend escapes. Add to that the entire foreign diplomat community, including the then US Ambassador to the DR, Hans Hertell. Apparently, Figueroa was not worried about bumping into a US Ambassador, high ranking Puerto Rican authority figures, CIA agents, etc. Keep in mind, he has been one of the most sought after criminals for the US and PR since 1999.
6. He keeps contact with a family member in Puerto Rico, who helps him in the shipment of the drugs from PR to the US mainland.
7. Then his PR connection is "busted", and down came the web.
8. Figueroa is caught and escapes from Dominican authorities; considering that in 1999 he escaped from one of the most guarded prisons in the Caribbean under US control, that he escaped from Dominican authorities is not shocking in comparison.
9. And now he reappears in PR shopping without a worry in the world.
Plus, there are allegations that certain high ranking government officials in Puerto Rico have connections to him.
So, he escapes, puts himself in the limelight mixing with the very same people he should had been hiding from, makes a fortune in the process, have his empire collapse and escapes to reappear in Puerto Rico; the floating real estate in the Caribbean where he is most wanted, and supposedly, being searched like no other place on earth by the most "powerful" country in the world.
All that we need is for him to appear next to Obama, like that couple that crashed an official party in DC a few months ago. No one knew who they were, but they were not invited, went in -well, posed for the photos prior to entering, just like the official guests-, had fun, shook hands with Obama, had a small chit chat, and then off home.
A party dedicated to the head of the supposedly most powerful country in the world is infiltrated by a couple of civilians that simply had enough guts to enter as legitimate guests, it's a good thing they were not terrorists or something worst.
There is something fishy in both, the notion of the US being the most powerful country in the world and in the Figueroa Agosto ordeal.
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They just gave out the excuse that they thought Figueroa Agosto and Sobeida were here in the DR and that's why they weren't looking for them, what a huge blunder by the PR authorities.
1.) Puerto Rico is a U.S. Territory but NOTHING in Puerto Rico functions the same as in the 50 States. MDC Guaynabo is on the guy's home turf and there was a team effort to get him out.
What you fail to mention here is that the Metropolitan Detention Center is a pretrial holding facility with inmates moving in and out every day, all day. Every prisoner there has release orders either to real jail or to court or a medical facility or the like and their movement is routine. If he were sent to a USP (United States Prison) I can promise you two things.
a.) He wouldn't have been housed in Puerto Rico
b.) He wouldn't have escaped
The "Guards" at MDC's are to USP CO's what Court Bailiffs are to real Cops.
BOP: Prison Types & General Information
2.) Happens all the time. Inside job.
3.) Once again, the guy operates in his comfort zone.
4.) Most sought after? This clown is not even a blip on the radar. If there's one thing the US has plenty of, it's criminals. There are over 3 million incarcerated right now and thousands will escape through fraud or bribery or incompetency each year. This clown was just one of them, nothing special about him.
FBI - Most Wanted - The FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives
I don't see him in there. Help me out.
5.) They've got guys in those same circles who have stolen more in white collar crimes in a month than this little fishy managed to make in his entire life. They belong together. He was trying to learn from the big boys who made their bones on Wall St., Charlotte and Wilmington.
6.) A Man's gotta eat. He's made it as far as he did thanks to his dogs. Those dogs have got to be fed or they will eat him.
7.) Family squabble. We all have them.
8.) Most guarded? Ha! The ones they really want to nail down get sent to KIA in Aruba. There's no fun in there and no escaping. U.S. has been handing it's serious Caribbean and Colombian drug problems to the Dutch for years.
9.) Arrogance of the criminal mind. He'll reach too far and catch someone's attention or rub someone the wrong way and that will be the last we hear of him.
The rest home...
USCIS, Federal Prisons workers, Park Service and Postal Service workers and Law Enforcement officials are sent to Puerto Rico as a carrott for decades of loyal service. They go there to retire. What you're referring to as "Puerto Rican Authorities" are a bunch of listless civil servants who busy themselves planning their golden years and ripping pages of the calendar on the countdown to retirement.
We call it "Retirement In Place"
USCIS, Federal Prisons workers, Park Service and Postal Service workers and Law Enforcement officials are sent to Puerto Rico as a carrott for decades of loyal service. They go there to retire. What you're referring to as "Puerto Rican Authorities" are a bunch of listless civil servants who busy themselves planning their golden years and ripping pages of the calendar on the countdown to retirement.
We call it "Retirement In Place"
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The fact that the US is the most powerful country in the world has nothing to do with not being able to catch Osama nor the tens of thoudsands of criminals roaming the US's streets nor the inability to eradicate drug use.
We just need to have the most powerful military and intelligence apparatus; which we do.
I'd like to know what other country in the world doesn't have fugitives and crime problems.
I honestly believe all these foreigners get these crazy ideas about our capabilities from Hollywood movies. Earth to locos - that's fantasy.
We just need to have the most powerful military and intelligence apparatus; which we do.
I'd like to know what other country in the world doesn't have fugitives and crime problems.
I honestly believe all these foreigners get these crazy ideas about our capabilities from Hollywood movies. Earth to locos - that's fantasy.
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Unconfirmed rumour that Junior Capsula & Sobeida have been caught
Rumores sobre apresamiento de Figueroa Agosto y Sobeida Felix
DEA y FBI habr?an arrestados en Puerto Rico a Figueroa Agosto y Sobeida
Habr?an apresado a Figueroa Agosto y Sobeida en Carolina, Puerto Rico
Dicen arrestan Figueroa Agosto y Sobeida
Rumores sobre apresamiento de Figueroa Agosto y Sobeida Felix
DEA y FBI habr?an arrestados en Puerto Rico a Figueroa Agosto y Sobeida
Habr?an apresado a Figueroa Agosto y Sobeida en Carolina, Puerto Rico
Dicen arrestan Figueroa Agosto y Sobeida