How low to offer?

2thebeach

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When offering on a property for sale, just how low can you offer without being insulting? I've heard of people getting properties that were listed at $400,000 for $150,000. I'm guessing this is not the norm, but is it normally acceptable to lowball offers?
 
When offering on a property for sale, just how low can you offer without being insulting? I've heard of people getting properties that were listed at $400,000 for $150,000. I'm guessing this is not the norm, but is it normally acceptable to lowball offers?

Offer what you think its worth, why worry about being insulting?? I have been traveling to the island for 19 years and swear I see the same for sale signs in front of the same houses. Some of these people living in DR are delusional and wont budge on price, so look for what you like.
 

anton william

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The Real Estate agents create this delusional market existing only in the colorful magazines and in the sellers heads. The strategy is simple, higer the price, biger commission. The real market value depends always on the economy. Look at the today's world economy and you have the answer.
 
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DMV123

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There really is two separate but connected markets. Foreigners can see value and comparisons based on international awareness. they will pay what they think it is worth.

The other market is local - my experience is that locals will decide on the price and not budge. IF they say it is work 100,000 then they will wait a year, 2years or 5years until finally someone gives them the 100,000 and they will be RIGHT. Much poorer due to opportunity costs but none the less right. don't even bother trying to explain this concept it will get you nowhere.....
 
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greydread

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Rule of thumb= Offer 90% of what you think you'll be able to get for the place in 2 years after proper market analysis. Pick 10 properties to make offers on and let the right one pick itself.
 

DMV123

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Rules of thumb may or may not apply here. Don't anticipate reselling anything here, our market is very very different then the US, Canada or Europe.

Even proper market analysis can be difficult here!
 

greydread

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Rules of thumb may or may not apply here. Don't anticipate reselling anything here, our market is very very different then the US, Canada or Europe.

Even proper market analysis can be difficult here!

I know that. It sounds like a great reason to rent.
 

DMV123

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LOL good point. For me, unless you really know what you are getting into then be wary! Do your homework, find someone to trust based on good strong recommendations..........

Good buys are available, great buys are also available. Just know what you are getting into and why.

And yes sometimes it is just better to rent..........;)
 

whiskylee

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You could work out the cost for construction of the property
example RD$ 25,000 per m2 (2010) est + Land cost
This should give you an idea of what it would cost t build yourself

Whiskylee
 

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Beware of those passing themselves as legitimate. Especially an agent that owns a gas station just outside of Sousua. There all nice an friendly up front, but they don't tell you that their shoddy lawyers will take a long time to get your tittle. Also beaware that some of these owners have not paid their condo fees. Best to rent and feel out the property and talk to people who own.
 

2thebeach

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Thanks all for the advice. We are going to be renting at first for sure. Eventually though we'd like to buy. We've found a plan we would consider building. Is anyone familiar with the new development, Altos de Sosua?
 

LTSteve

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Your example is not the norm. If the property is being offered through a reputable real estate company than it is most likely priced competitively which means realistically in the marketplace. If it is being sold by the owner than he could set the price anywhere, however than does not mean it is worth that price. In that case you need to look at other properties in the area to determine if the price set by the owner is realistic. When you make an offer, you do not want to "leave any money on the table" which means having made an offer which could have been lower and accepted by the owner. Why give him more than he will accept. It is your money. A good rule of thumb is to make an offer of at least 10-15% below the asking price. If the property has been on the market for a long time you could go to 20%. Currently it is a buyers market. Go for it.

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jrhartley

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I think titles can take a long time whatever lawyer you use , sometimes you can be lucky and get them in a reasonable time
 

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Due Diligence

Beware of those passing themselves as legitimate. Especially an agent that owns a gas station just outside of Sousua. There all nice an friendly up front, but they don't tell you that their shoddy lawyers will take a long time to get your tittle. Also beaware that some of these owners have not paid their condo fees. Best to rent and feel out the property and talk to people who own.

Actually this is something that your attorney should take care of. If you have a good attorney, they will know title status, outstanding debts, etc. on the property before you involve your money. Due diligence in it's most basic form. On the North Coast, Dr. Brea at Guzman's office is the gold standard of attorneys in my opinion.
 

CaptnGlenn

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One thing to consider: Is it more insulting to a seller to be offered a too-low price for a property, or is it more insulting to YOU, the buyer, to be asked to pay a price way too much for a property? Obviously asking 400K for a property that sold for 150K is an insult to the prospective purchasers. Remember... the seller ASKED for 400K and then ACCEPTED 150K. What does that tell you??? Maybe that he thought someone would be stupid enough to pay 400K? Quite an insult if you ask me!

There is only one true value for any property at any particular point in time. It is called "market value", and is defined as the intersection of the price the buyer is willing to pay and the price the owner is willing to sell.
 

DMV123

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that is exactly correct - the intersection of what the buyer will pay and the seller will accept. Isn't that the entire game???
 

jrhartley

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if you are going to offer something low, you have to be prepared to walk away (ie you dont really want it )
 

wrecksum

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I'm not quite with the concept.

Who are you worried about 'insulting'?
If they sell to you at that price or agree to negotiate then you may get to know them and the price was right.
If they refuse, you never see them again. (usually).
Why worry?? It's just business.
 
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