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    Exclamation You Guys Have Really Scared me about Crime in DR, PLEASE help!!!

    After coming across this wonderful site I read completely, every post, the thread about tips to avoid danger/crime in the DR. Practically every hope and dream I had established of finding my long sought after retirement, surf paradise was shattered. I even had nightmares of a shootout last night.
    I am well travelled in 3rd world locales such a Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, Nicaragua, Mexico etc but none of them were as bad as is described here about DR. In Costa Rica I was pickpocketed in Jaco but.... at the time I was allowing prostitutes to approach me after midnight...THAT I understand. Definitely understand that if I hang out where I shouldnt be and do what I should not be doing the risks are high...but everyday life?

    Not being able to drive my car to the beach to surf in a remote area without fear of robbery or machete attack? WOW! To be assaulted while "reading a map on the street", "stopped at a red light" or have to have razor wire, attack dogs, bars, walls, gates, guns, pepper spray, baseball bats, killer hedges, anti dog poison medicine...well that is ridiculous sounding. To have to fear of assault, robbery, pickpocket, scams, roadblocks and other unscruplicity would ruin my "dream life" To get right to the point:

    1.Can I expect this type of "stuff" everywhere in the DR. Is it more concentrated in the big cities and pure tourist towns?
    2. Would areas such as Las Terrenas, Cabrera, Gallera, The Samana Peninsula area have a more peaceful and safe setting?
    3. What areas along Northern coast are not yet over run with development and bad guys? Be specific.
    4. What areas can I still get a near or on beach home at somewhat of a better price than other more developed region. I want to be able to surf almost daily so near the beach and surfbreaks is a prerequisite.
    I am coming in October for my exploratory trip and would love some friends to get acquainted with prior to arrival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffedmonds42 View Post
    After coming across this wonderful site I read completely, every post, the thread about tips to avoid danger/crime in the DR. Practically every hope and dream I had established of finding my long sought after retirement, surf paradise was shattered. I even had nightmares of a shootout last night.
    I am well travelled in 3rd world locales such a Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, Nicaragua, Mexico etc but none of them were as bad as is described here about DR. In Costa Rica I was pickpocketed in Jaco but.... at the time I was allowing prostitutes to approach me after midnight...THAT I understand. Definitely understand that if I hang out where I shouldnt be and do what I should not be doing the risks are high...but everyday life?

    Not being able to drive my car to the beach to surf in a remote area without fear of robbery or machete attack? WOW! To be assaulted while "reading a map on the street", "stopped at a red light" or have to have razor wire, attack dogs, bars, walls, gates, guns, pepper spray, baseball bats, killer hedges, anti dog poison medicine...well that is ridiculous sounding. To have to fear of assault, robbery, pickpocket, scams, roadblocks and other unscruplicity would ruin my "dream life" To get right to the point:

    1.Can I expect this type of "stuff" everywhere in the DR. Is it more concentrated in the big cities and pure tourist towns?
    2. Would areas such as Las Terrenas, Cabrera, Gallera, The Samana Peninsula area have a more peaceful and safe setting?
    3. What areas along Northern coast are not yet over run with development and bad guys? Be specific.
    4. What areas can I still get a near or on beach home at somewhat of a better price than other more developed region. I want to be able to surf almost daily so near the beach and surfbreaks is a prerequisite.
    I am coming in October for my exploratory trip and would love some friends to get acquainted with prior to arrival.
    Your's is a common problem for new users. You can read a couple of posts on a subject and conclude that things are worse than they really are.

    I have been living in the DR since 1986, in Samana and for last 12 in Sosua. I would not have stayed this long if I feared for my life.

    That said, it must also be noted that the country is not as safe as it was when I got here in 86. But I doubt many places are as safe now as they were then. Several years ago I was talking with somebody who had a pistol stuck in his stomach while he was walking in broad daylight through the main park in Boston.

    If you live here, you do need to take precautions. Staying away from deserted beaches is one of them. A foreigner on a deserted beach is going to be a source of money for some poor country person.

    Not acting like a rich foreigner and flashing lots of money is another precaution. But that is stupid to do anywhere.

    When you make your exploratory visit, come to the North Coast. There are lots of expats living here. The North Coast is not over run with bad guys, but there are some to avoid, both males and females,

    I have no doubt that if there were message boards like this for the countries you mentioned that you would be reading scary posts about those countries much like those you have read on dr1

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    I think everyone who is afraid of the situation here should stay away or leave. Life is too short to worry about what you can't change. Ciao.

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    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! (my catchphrase here, see?) some people are easily spooked. and, i start to think, quite silly. DR is not an international capital of crime. you will not be stripped off all your possessions and your life while walking down the street. you do not need a machine gun and a string of bodyguards in your wake. this ain't a war zone.
    and you, my dear OP, seem like a fool. i would not drive my car into remote location for surfing anywhere in the world. should something happen to you, like, say, a shark attack or a concussion after a bad fall - how the f**k would you get any help if you were in a remote beach, all by yourself?

    listen, dude. i am a woman, not big. i drive my car around town and out, i have no guns, pepper sprays, baseball bats or any other weapon. i move around north coast on my own and i have not passed out from fear as of yet. yes, i was attacked once in DR, by a dude with a gun and i managed to fight him off. treated it as a subject for hilarious email to friends, he did not dump my spirit.

    DR is a place like any other. don't put yourself in harm's way and you will be fine. geez. there goes my image of surfers as cool guys. right....

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    If I wrote of my experiences in Detroit, it doesn't mean MI is a dangerous place.

    Perspective.

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    Thanks for the replys so far guys and ladies. Clarifications:. DV8 whether you think I am" cool" as a surfer or a "fool" is your issue not mine. I really was writing to get some perspective.Nno need to post if criticism and name calling are part of your post. I am seeking helpful friends not people to tell me to their personal opinions about me after a 4oo chartacter posting.tejaNO

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    Chip By surfing a remote deserted beach perhaps I went to far. I just like to get in the water on a daily basis. I am aware that normal precautions need be taken. I am not a fool and try not to be foolish. I definitely will tour along the North Coast. Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8 View Post
    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! (my catchphrase here, see?) some people are easily spooked. and, i start to think, quite silly. DR is not an international capital of crime. you will not be stripped off all your possessions and your life while walking down the street. you do not need a machine gun and a string of bodyguards in your wake. this ain't a war zone.
    and you, my dear OP, seem like a fool. i would not drive my car into remote location for surfing anywhere in the world. should something happen to you, like, say, a shark attack or a concussion after a bad fall - how the f**k would you get any help if you were in a remote beach, all by yourself?

    listen, dude. i am a woman, not big. i drive my car around town and out, i have no guns, pepper sprays, baseball bats or any other weapon. i move around north coast on my own and i have not passed out from fear as of yet. yes, i was attacked once in DR, by a dude with a gun and i managed to fight him off. treated it as a subject for hilarious email to friends, he did not dump my spirit.

    DR is a place like any other. don't put yourself in harm's way and you will be fine. geez. there goes my image of surfers as cool guys. right....
    Google International Shark Attack file and you will learn that shark attack is not a great concern in DR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Not acting like a rich foreigner and flashing lots of money is another precaution. But that is stupid to do anywhere.
    I can't help but think about the Elvis Presley impersonator guy (sideburns and all) I see in Sosua driving that nice new convertible up and down PC with the top down, lol.

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    I wouldn't overreact here.

    Read the thread on drinking / using the tap water in RD.
    You will find that all agree on the fact that it shouldn't be swallowed on regular basis..... thats where the agreement ends.

    Some will cook with it - others won't
    Some make their coffee with it - others won't
    Some daredevils (me included) actually brush their teeth with it!! - Others offer to sing at our funerals.

    Its all in the level of risk assessment/management.

    Water can kill you, crime can kill you.

    Personally, my family has many more problems in Europe than RD.... go figure.
    Purse stolen or picked - in NYC (Bloomingdale's), Paris (subway by Armenian children in little "Fagan" type gangs) and Rome (on the bus)

    I think the further you are from high density population and tourist areas, the more you will enjoy yourself.

    Works for me.

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