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PICHARDO

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News flash!


The DR authorities are debating a piece pending onto a borrador, which would mandate that ALL ARMED security services, be them private or public, will be integrated into the Policia Nacional 100%.

All existing ARMED SECURITY personnel will undergo the same vetting and training process as regular police cadets at the state agency's facilities. Their employers will be required to pay them a salary equal to that of a Police Officer in service, cover their meals, sick days and also the primary equipment at a discount rate to be furnished ONLY from the POLICE's own system.

That's to say that the Police force will be more than double or triple in size and therefore security will be of much better quality all around they today serve.

All officers hired to provide security services, will be equipped with a radio to keep in contact with local units in case they need to report an issue or back up. Any criminal action against these officers will be equally prosecuted as assaulting a Law enforcement officer by the DA.

Killing a security agent during a criminal act will automatically call for the maximum incarceration penalty as regular when killing cops in service.

No more shotguns on the hands, but handguns to which the personnel will be properly trained and continuously drilled for as long as they serve in the unit.

As of the date that borrador is elevated to Law and enacted, there will be no more private or security services of any type other than these same officers. According to the draft, existing service providers with a personnel above a certain limit, will be able to operate as employment agents for the hire of the services.

These agencies (formerly then security firms) will then be in charge of all the logistics behind the agent's placement, schedules and transportation.

Under this borrador to be Bill, officers now serving under the Policia Nacional will be able to enjoy the same benefits as the former security agents on having work when off the regular beat. As standard practice, from then on, only the PN will be able to hire new personnel into the ranks and to expand the security detail around the country.

Pretty much you can rent-A-cop when you need security of the best level in the DR soon!

Officers that are added from the security firms on the first wave, will NOT be able to police the streets as the regular force agents. Only the new hires directly under the PN will be able to carry those two tasks accordingly.
 

caribmike

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Sounds good!

But, as we all know, many of these "Watchmen" are not the smartest or are too old or are not fit to do any other work.... So will these be included too or will they be sorted out = then unemployed?
 

Givadogahome

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That is not unlike a move a mafia organisation would carry out in order to take the cream from the cats mouth. Basically they are going to take some of the financial gain from the existing private security agencies.

It is legalised racketeering.

Unless I am reading this wrong
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caribmike

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That is not unlike a move a mafia organisation would carry out in order to take the cream from the cats mouth. Basically they are going to take some of the financial gain from the existing private security agencies.

It is legalised racketeering.

Unless I am reading this wrong
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Well, but if the ranks getting better salaries / benefits that way, why not?
 

Luperon

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Not to worry, I am sure they will all have to pass the same rigorous civil service exam and background checks of the current elite PN.
 

Hillbilly

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Typical one party dictatorship move. The private security companies will be abolished??? Give me a break!! And all those retired generals that have these companies??? They will just go quietly in to the dusk? Where is the judicial security of the rule of law?

And as the above posters have suggested the physical ability of many of these people is highly questionable.

One more stupid attempt to stifle private enterprise!! But in a dictatorship you have to control control control.

HB
 

keepcoming

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Good in theory but would the PN then not have a "monopoly" on security in DR?. While it may double in size, would it be better or more efficient. Sometimes the quanity is not what matters, it is the quality.
 

Ducadista

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Valeu Cara!
This will never happen, PN have never properly trained their people, let alone provide adequate recourses, and now they want to convert security guards into cops, give me a break.
 

bigbird

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This will never happen, PN have never properly trained their people, let alone provide adequate recourses, and now they want to convert security guards into cops, give me a break.

LOL, but so true, especially the PN who spend their day standing under a shade tree.
 

cbmitch9

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Wow. Not even Vladimir Putin would make such a move(??). Congrats to the DR politicos. You either need really big cajones to do this or the mental capacity of a horsefly.
Pichardo, I would like to hear your take on this. Do you really think this wil pass?
 

Celt202

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That's good news. Our condo association could hire a wachi who could shake down passing vehicles for propinas. We could paint the building with our cut.

What a country.
 

PICHARDO

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Sounds good!

But, as we all know, many of these "Watchmen" are not the smartest or are too old or are not fit to do any other work.... So will these be included too or will they be sorted out = then unemployed?

News flash!

All existing ARMED SECURITY personnel will undergo the same vetting and training process as regular police cadets at the state agency's facilities.

Got to read! Got to read!
 

PICHARDO

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Wow. Not even Vladimir Putin would make such a move(??). Congrats to the DR politicos. You either need really big cajones to do this or the mental capacity of a horsefly.
Pichardo, I would like to hear your take on this. Do you really think this wil pass?

No doubt! The wording included in the borrador is more extensive than what I posted (summary) here, but the sentiment is that having a whole bunch of men with less education than a midde-schooler toting a shotgun about every other door and biz is not a "security" infusing picture for the DR.

Most of these folks end up just being guns' ATMs for the criminals that often target them just to take their weapons away and have little care not to kill them on the way too.
 

PICHARDO

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This will never happen, PN have never properly trained their people, let alone provide adequate recourses, and now they want to convert security guards into cops, give me a break.


The PN is changing a lot! New training and equipment! You can thanks the DHS of the US for that and a major shout out to the DOJ too...
 

SantiagoDR

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Sounds normal for the D.R.

After all, anytime there is a robbery where there are security guards, the first thing they do is arrest the security guards.

Now you want to give them the same recognition as a police officer?
(Birds of a feather flock together)

I have heard that some of these "Security Guards" use their job as a control point for drugs.
After all, the police have no reason to check on a closed business being guarded by security guards.

Duh, time to wake up DNCD.
 

SantiagoDR

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Pichardo's latest fantasy - Trusting the Police

(My comments in Blue / Red)

News flash!

All existing ARMED SECURITY personnel will undergo the same vetting and training process as regular police cadets at the state agency's facilities.

We all know how well they are trained, some of the best and highest paid criminals in the D.R.

That's to say that the Police force will be more than double or triple in size and therefore security will be of much better quality all around they today serve.

More then double or triple the "legal" ladrone on the streets.

All officers hired to provide security services, will be equipped with a radio to keep in contact with local units in case they need to report an issue or back up.

What better way to coordinate their criminal activities.
Hey, Jose, we just got in more "sugar" for your coffee, stop on by.

Plus, they will be able to monitor police activity in their area easier.

Any criminal action against these officers will be equally prosecuted as assaulting a Law enforcement officer by the DA.

They will be even more of an a$$hole.
Many of these "security guards" have dreams of being fantasy cops.


Pretty much you can rent-A-cop when you need security of the best level in the DR soon!

Since when is the level of trust in the P.N. an accomplishment?
Comparing them to police officers is not a very desirable level in this country.

 
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CFA123

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Good lord... what a ridiculous proposal.

We interview potential guards and choose the ones we want.
Some we want armed, some not.
If one of our security guards is caught sleeping he is fired.
As has been the case in the past, if one is caught stealing he is fired and the police are called.
We want to add one, change his duties (start going doing electronic check-in at designated points) we start it.
We want to reduce head count, we let one go.
We want to change hours of security coverage, we do it.
Imagine any of this if integrated into the PN.

Now, we'll have to accept anyone the government sends?
Now, we'll have to deal with a government office to make any changes?
Now, the government would probably swap out guards when they want to move personnel without our input.

How could anyone (including those of you who posted above) possibly consider that this would be an improvement of any kind? Part of what our guards do is protect us from the PN. It's not funny Friday yet, right?