Failed war on drugs: Creates drug mafia - murder in the streets

windeguy

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Santo Domingo.- A band of assassins comprised of police and military executed Alexander Acosta (Alex), 35, on Lincoln Av. Friday, and could be the first evidence of a major case of drug trafficking and organized crime. The shooting is believed to be linked to a major case based on the large amount of money paid and found at the scene and the fact that the driver of the shooters escaped on motorcycle was paid 7,500 euros (RD$418,350), according to the police.
The authorities meanwhile found RD$196,000 in cash in the victim?s pockets and three European Union passports in his vehicle.
The sailor Luis Hector M?ndez (Rubio El Marino) is the person who police call the murder?s mastermind and who allegedly hired three hit men to kill Acosta.
Allegedly, ?Rubio El Marino? paid a large sum of money to police agent Jos? Leonel Rodriguez, apprehended yesterday, and that Diomaris Ramon Encarnacion and Jordan Garcia Contreras were on the bike from where the shots were fired.
Investigators say Encarnacion, the alleged shooter fled the country aboard Spirit airline Flight 142 to New York on Saturday.
Quoted by eldia.com.do, the Police said Rodriguez was posted near the crime scene to ?resolve any issues that came up during the execution.?
Source: DT
 
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This country is to small and the people are too damn nosy, & can't keep their mouths shut. Anything you do. Anywhere you do it someone is bound to know you or someone you know. You can get away with it for a little bit but eventually your gonna get busted. The stuff that happens elsewhere could not cannot endure here.
 

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This country is to small and the people are too damn nosy, & can't keep their mouths shut. Anything you do. Anywhere you do it someone is bound to know you or someone you know. You can get away with it for a little bit but eventually your gonna get busted. The stuff that happens elsewhere could not cannot endure here.
I constantly tell people "There are no secrets in the DR."

Anyone else remember the Colombia Cowboy days in Miami? Street assassinations were fairly commonplace...
 

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This is only the start !!!! Wait until the different cartels start fighting gonna be crazy !!!
 

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It's been going on a while although among themselves the odd executions make the news. Mexicans execution style seems to be bound, doused in gasoline and left to burn to death. Dominican execution style seems to be bound, nuts crushed with pliers doused in gasoline and set on fire, left to burn to death although I'd guess most men pass out during the nut crushing.
There has been numerous bodies found like this and reported on the news over the last 3 years, bound, pants down and burned to death.

Lets just hope they manage to keep it among themselves and don't start with these drive byes, effect the lives of the innocent. Gangsters can kill each other all day and night as far as I'm concerned as long as it stays in gangsterland, not among the general public.
 

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The fact that gangsters are killing themselves after decades and decades of a failed war on drugs that was supposed to stop such things from happening should alert people to try a different approach to this problem. Prohibition does not work. Witness the results.
 

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The fact that gangsters are killing themselves after decades and decades of a failed war on drugs that was supposed to stop such things from happening should alert people to try a different approach to this problem. Prohibition does not work. Witness the results.
Like the Cuban embargo, the War on Drugs should have rationally been deemed a failure decades ago and dropped like a rock.

The gun issue today has deep roots in the WoD because people felt a need to defend themselves from drug crazies & gangsters. Still do.

The WoD has cost lives and treasure, both just pi$$ed down the drain...with NOTHING to show for it.
 

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The fact that gangsters are killing themselves after decades and decades of a failed war on drugs that was supposed to stop such things from happening should alert people to try a different approach to this problem. Prohibition does not work. Witness the results.

It does not work for me or you, or for the regular Joe. But it works wonders for those with inside intel, who are then able to freely transport and sell their stuff for 200 times its real value on US and Europe streets...
 

windeguy

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And don't forget how much money is wasted incarcerating drug users in the courts and prison systems. The current war on drugs also works very well for police, lawyers and those running prisons at our expense.
 

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Some Holiday stories on the failed drug war just in!

Venezuelan capo used DR to launder drug money
El Dia reports that the Venezuelan drug capo, 44-year old Yoel Antonio Oalmar Vergel, arrested in Colombia, used the Dominican Republic as the bridge to transport drugs to Europe and the United states and also to launder drug money.

He had purchased large properties in the Dominican Republic to launder the money, including the Malecon Casino Palace in the Malecon Center on the Malecon. Recent investigations show that he bribed the security force at Dominican airports to carry out his operations. The Malecon Casino Palace was shut down by the Ministry of Hacienda on 21 December 2017. It had been operating since 2015. The top officers of the casino were Yoel Antonio Palmar himself and Jaime Sued Pichardo. It operated as Mi Llanura SRL. The same company has other gambling operations in other locations in Santo Dmingo, Santiago, Puerto Plata, La Vega, Punta Cana, Tamboril (Santiago), San Pedro de Macoris and La Romana, as reported in El Dia.

El Universal newspaper of Venezuela reports that the drug network that operated from Colombia via Venezuela to the Dominican Republic was headed by Yoel Palmar. The new Venezuelan prosecutor accused his predecessor, Luisa Ortega Diaz, of protecting Palmar from judicial investigations. He said she ordered that investigations not continue in any case in which Palmar was involved.

http://www.eluniversal.com/noticias/...mo-jefe_681571
http://eldia.com.do/cartel-del-malec...tro-de-lavado/


DNCD seizes 499 packages of suspected cocaine
The National Drug Control Agency (DNCD) reported the seizing of 499 packages of white powder substance suspected of being cocaine on Friday, 22 December 2017, off the eastern coast of the La Altagracia province. Santo Domingo.

The drugs were intercepted inside a speed boat that was pursued by units of the Air Force (FARD), Armada (ARD) and land forces of the DNCD. The DNCD announced two foreigners were detained as the investigation continues.

The drugs were sent to the National Institute of Forensic Sciences (Inacif) for testing.

http://www.dncd.gob.do/ocupan-mas-de...la-altagracia/
 
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For those of you celebrating the "failure" on the drug war some questions:

- What do you propose to "fix" it?

- Have you in any way, shape or form, being part of the forces actually fighting this "failed war?" (no doing drugs yourself, isn't the same as fighting it from the drug trenches FYI)

- If your answer is "legalize" how do you suggest we do it?
 

Garyexpat

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I believe, at least most drugs should be legalized. I was just in Colombia where small amounts for personal use are not punishable and "citizens" can grow I think up to 11 Marijuana plants. -“The dose for personal use is defined as a quantity of marijuana not exceeding twenty (20) grams; a quantity of hashish not exceeding five (5) grams; a quantity of cocaine or any cocaine-based substance not exceeding one (1) gram, and a quantity of methaqualone not exceeding two (2) grams.”

How to do it? My thoughts would be to pass legislation decriminalizing personal usage and regulating production as has been done in several states in the U.S. which have legalized smoking weed.

For the record, I don't use drugs but I smelled more weed in Medellin than I had since I did smoke decades ago.
 

chico bill

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For those of you celebrating the "failure" on the drug war some questions:

- What do you propose to "fix" it?

- Have you in any way, shape or form, being part of the forces actually fighting this "failed war?" (no doing drugs yourself, isn't the same as fighting it from the drug trenches FYI)

- If your answer is "legalize" how do you suggest we do it?
Just give them more fentanyl to cut the coke and heroin with. That will leave the junkies as corpses without the gangsters needing to off them. Happening in Philly NY, Chicago and Detroit now

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It does not work for me or you, or for the regular Joe. But it works wonders for those with inside intel, who are then able to freely transport and sell their stuff for 200 times its real value on US and Europe streets...

Perhaps it could work for the regular Joe or even a guy who just
enjoys a proper cup of regular Joe in the morning. Here's an example
of what I mean.

From 2000-2005:
One kilo of cocaine (South Texas wholesale) = $16,000
One quarter (New Orleans retail) = $6,000 or roughly $666 per ounce
If four people buy one quarter (retail) per week = $24,000
Minus the $16,000 invested = a weekly profit of $8,000 USD
Lets not forget to multiply this weekly profit x2 whenever the
city host large events like Super Bowl, Jazz Fest, Final Four,
Essence, Voodoo Fest, Mardi Gras, ect.

Indeed... if you can stomach the level of violence associated with
this lifestyle then you've probably made (and spent) more money in
5 years than most of the people on this forum will see in a lifetime.
No special "intel" required, just nerves of steel.

Again, this is just an example I DO NOT RECOMMEND YOU TRY THIS AT HOME :cheeky:
 

windeguy

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For those of you celebrating the "failure" on the drug war some questions:

- What do you propose to "fix" it?

- Have you in any way, shape or form, being part of the forces actually fighting this "failed war?" (no doing drugs yourself, isn't the same as fighting it from the drug trenches FYI)

- If your answer is "legalize" how do you suggest we do it?

I am not a law enforcement person, but many law enforcement people realize how such a war can never be won.

Legalize all of them, regulate them and tax them. Take the profit out of what is currently illegal which would eliminate the cartels and the collateral damage, huge wast of police time and effort which is repeatedly wasted on a daily basis.

This will also stop adding more and more people who just use drugs to the jails and treat them for their addictions, which are medical problems.

There is an alternative, which is used in some countries. Kill anyone and everyone involved in the drug business. That will also work.
 

Mauricio

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A recommendation in the line of this topic: Watch ‘Dope’ on Netflix. Four 45 minutes episode that give an interesting but shocking look into the world of selling , consuming and fighting drugs.
 

Garyexpat

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From Windeguy "There is an alternative, which is used in some countries. Kill anyone and everyone involved in the drug business. That will also work."

This method is currently being attempted in the Philippines.
 

windeguy

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From Windeguy "There is an alternative, which is used in some countries. Kill anyone and everyone involved in the drug business. That will also work."

This method is currently being attempted in the Philippines.

Indeed. I expect the Phillipines will have great success with this method once everyone is dead.
I was told there was a time in Sri Lanka where illegal drug users had their heads crushed by en elephant stepping on their head.

I would like to see the US try the legalize/regulate/tax and treat method first before proceeding further. It is being tried for marijuana in many states. One small step.