reflections of Vodou

pauleast

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WOW fascinating !! Cant wait for part 7.
I guess the guy wearing the N.Y Yankee hat is a Voodoo doctor specialist.
 

dave6

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WOW fascinating !! Cant wait for part 7.
I guess the guy wearing the N.Y Yankee hat is a Voodoo doctor specialist.

no way!! no self respecting houngan would wear a yankees hat. the guy wearing the Boston redsox hat is the top preist :laugh:
 
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somewhat disappointing

I was sort of expecting the guy with the crutches to fling them down, then stand up and boogie!:(
 
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The power of Voodoo

The spirits of today aren't what they used to be.

In this PBS documentary, Prof. Gates analyses the effects of Africa and its culture on Haiti and the DR, and even presents a scholarly guy who speaks of voodoo as a very serious religion. But it is pretty hard to reconcile this with the silliness of voodoo as it generally is practiced. Santer?a is not much different, so far as my limited experiences with it have seemed to me. Of course, if a totally logical being from say, the Planet Vulcan, were to pay a visit to most of the world's religions, it seems that they might not fare much better. I think there is a difference between brujeria and voodoo, though.


http://http://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/featured/haiti-the-dominican-republic-an-island-divided-watch-full-episode/165/
 
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In this PBS documentary, Prof. Gates analyses the effects of Africa and its culture on Haiti and the DR, and even presents a scholarly guy who speaks of voodoo as a very serious religion. But it is pretty hard to reconcile this with the silliness of voodoo as it generally is practiced. Santer?a is not much different, so far as my limited experiences with it have seemed to me. Of course, if a totally logical being from say, the Planet Vulcan, were to pay a visit to most of the world's religions, it seems that they might not fare much better. I think there is a difference between brujeria and voodoo, though.


http://http://www.pbs.org/wnet/blac...lic-an-island-divided-watch-full-episode/165/

[video=youtube;AEYN5w4T_aM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYN5w4T_aM[/video]
 

JohnnyBoy

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I like throwing chicken bones at people and watching them run. Thats how i would clear bums away from my building in Fla.
 

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Another Gran Combo classic. Ahiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.
 
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I recall this from an old Andy Rooney movie.

First Guy: You remind me of a man.

Second Guy: What man?

First Guy: A man with a power.

Second Guy: What power?

First Guy: The power of Hoodoo.

Second Guy: Hoodoo?

First Guy: You do.

Second Guy: I do what?

First Guy: You remind me of a man.

Second Guy: What man?

et cetera. This is a great routine to use with kids. Better than Abbot & Costello's "Who's on First?"
Too bad it defies translation into Spanish.
 

pauleast

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In this PBS documentary, Prof. Gates analyses the effects of Africa and its culture on Haiti and the DR, and even presents a scholarly guy who speaks of voodoo as a very serious religion. But it is pretty hard to reconcile this with the silliness of voodoo as it generally is practiced. Santer?a is not much different, so far as my limited experiences with it have seemed to me. Of course, if a totally logical being from say, the Planet Vulcan, were to pay a visit to most of the world's religions, it seems that they might not fare much better. I think there is a difference between brujeria and voodoo, though.


http://http://www.pbs.org/wnet/blac...lic-an-island-divided-watch-full-episode/165/

Professor Gates is hardly an authority on Dominican culture. He is from West Virginia and got arrested after claiming to be a "know it all" to a Boston Lawmen. A gentleman he is not.
Professor "Hillbilly" (a moderator) is much more informed and I believe he reports that he is from West Virginia
 
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pauleast

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I like throwing chicken bones at people and watching them run. Thats how i would clear bums away from my building in Fla.

Jboy , you ant right. Lol.. Don't you know you gave those people a :curse / hex / bad karma, for life !!
 
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Henry Louis Gates is considered an authority on Black culture, which he teaches at Harvard. I have met him, he gave a speech at my university several years ago. He certainly has a scholarly demeanor about him. The flap about the cop who got after him for trying to get into his own house has really nothing whatever to do with his knowledge of anything. I do not think most people are likely to be gentlemanly after returning home to find their door stuck and then being harassed by a Cambridge (not Boston) cop who somehow thought that an elderly crippled man was some sort of cat burglar. But all that was resolved by the famous and peaceful beer summit.

In 1999, I was stopped by a Miami Beach cop who told me that his records showed that my bent 1989 Hyundai Excel did not belong to me. It took him 30 minutes and 5 registration forms for him to finally let me go and admit that he had made a mistake. I did not show anger. But I was really annoyed. Who steals a bent 10 year old Hyundai and forges 10 years of registrations that have the proper plate and sticker number? Gates reports that he is part Irish. I am mostly English and Dutch. Perhaps this might have something to do with it.

Henry Louis Gates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This discussion is about Haitian vodou, and Gates does not speak Creole. He does, however, interview a Haitian vodou priest on this documentary which should be judged on its own merits and not all that crap over why a crippled Black professor got upset with a policeman when he was trying to get into his own house.

In the PBS series, Gates is not presented as the authority, but as the interviewer, and if you watch it, you might see that he does quite a good job of interviewing the various Dominicans and Haitians that do present their point of view about African culture in their country. It is true that he was born in West Virginia, but I do not think that this disqualifies him from serving as an interviewer on a PBS documentary.

I was born in Missouri and once lived and taught in WV for 4 years, and I do not think that being born in WV disqualifies anyone from anything. I cannot comment on who knows the most, since I do not know the moderator you mention.

I make no claims to being an expert on the DR, a place I have visited six times. I know even less about Haitian vodou, but my impression is that the manifestations of vodun and Cuban santer?a I have seen are rather a far cry from scholarly works I have read and documentaries I have seen on these folk religions.

:)Peace:)
 
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pauleast

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Henry Louis Gates is considered an authority on Black culture, which he teaches at Harvard. I have met him, he gave a speech at my university several years ago. He certainly has a scholarly demeanor about him. The flap about the cop who got after him for trying to get into his own house has really nothing whatever to do with his knowledge of anything. I do not think most people are likely to be gentlemanly after returning home to find their door stuck and then being harassed by a Cambridge (not Boston) cop who somehow thought that an elderly crippled man was some sort of cat burglar. But all that was resolved by the famous and peaceful beer summit.

In 1999, I was stopped by a Miami Beach cop who told me that his records showed that my bent 1989 Hyundai Excel did not belong to me. It took him 30 minutes and 5 registration forms for him to finally let me go and admit that he had made a mistake. I did not show anger. But I was really annoyed. Who steals a bent 10 year old Hyundai and forges 10 years of registrations that have the proper plate and sticker number? Gates reports that he is part Irish. I am mostly English and Dutch. Perhaps this might have something to do with it.

Henry Louis Gates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This discussion is about Haitian vodou, and Gates does not speak Creole. He does, however, interview a Haitian vodou priest on this documentary which should be judged on its own merits and not all that crap over why a crippled Black professor got upset with a policeman when he was trying to get into his own house.

In the PBS series, Gates is not presented as the authority, but as the interviewer, and if you watch it, you might see that he does quite a good job of interviewing the various Dominicans and Haitians that do present their point of view about African culture in their country. It is true that he was born in West Virginia, but I do not think that this disqualifies him from serving as an interviewer on a PBS documentary.

I was born in Missouri and once lived and taught in WV for 4 years, and I do not think that being born in WV disqualifies anyone from anything. I cannot comment on who knows the most, since I do not know the moderator you mention.

I make no claims to being an expert on the DR, a place I have visited six times. I know even less about Haitian vodou, but my impression is that the manifestations of vodun and Cuban santer?a I have seen are rather a far cry from scholarly works I have read and documentaries I have seen on these folk religions.

:)Peace:)

Gates is the epitome of "You know who I am and who I know" He is an expert on his own opinion. He is not an authority on Haitian voodoo or anything Dominican related.
His credibility is impeached after he instigated a confrontation with a cop who was trying to look out after his property and Gates insinuated the "culture card". His real personality was exposed. He never teaches facts, just opinions and assumptions.
As for you driving a 10 year old Hyundai Excel in Miami, I can only say ...sorry