Partial Liquidation

william webster

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I know some people and companies liquidate employees annually.

I have an employee who has built up some debt with me and others.
He struggles to pay it off.

Can I offer him partial liquidation? say one of his three years?
I would like to 'liquidate' him enough to alleviate his debts.

The money is actually his - his severance being held in abeyance - and is a future obligation of mine.

Both he and I would rather not empty the total liquidation pot, just part.

Any comments?? Suggestions/ideas?
 
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Can't you give him the money, have him sign for it, then carry the debt until liquidation time? If and when that time comes, deduct it from the severance. Seems simple to me, but maybe I am being simplistic!

Lindsey
 

cobraboy

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Can't you give him the money, have him sign for it, then carry the debt until liquidation time? If and when that time comes, deduct it from the severance. Seems simple to me, but maybe I am being simplistic!

Lindsey
Exactly.

I don't think you can legally take any $$$ designated for him as liquidation until such time as he is no longer employed.
 

bienamor

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There is no such thing as partial liquidation! If you let him go, he is due the entire liquidation amount within 10 days. And cannot be rehired within 3 month.
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Your only recourse would be a company loan, which if not paid back when the employee terminates, would be subtracted from the liquidation.
 

william webster

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I know for a fact that many companies liquidate annually..... perhaps they do that as 'fire & rehire' process.

What you're telling me is that it's all or nothing on the liquidation.. no partial --- OK
Yes, just carrying the note is what I'm doing now..... he wants to pay it of and I keep saying 'not yet'.

Its a nicely signed little piece of paper with our signatures and the amount on it.

Thanks people for helping
 
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Exactly.

I don't think you can legally take any $$$ designated for him as liquidation until such time as he is no longer employed.

Let me try this again. I guess I wasn't clear about what I meant. Give him a loan. If and when the time to liquidate comes, give him the full liquidation. Have him sign the paper that he received it. Then allow him to pay you back on the loan from his liquidation money and sign the loan paper that he did so. Maybe he would refuse and walk away. Those are the chances you take. But, if you worked on a good employer/employee relationship, he will do what is right and pay you back. And you are protected with the signed paperwork from Secretaria de Trabajo.

Would this not work?

Lindsey
 

william webster

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Yup, with a good relationship that will work, but you may be entitled to deduct the loan the same way he gets to add the pro rata vacation etc
 

cobraboy

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Let me try this again. I guess I wasn't clear about what I meant. Give him a loan. If and when the time to liquidate comes, give him the full liquidation. Have him sign the paper that he received it. Then allow him to pay you back on the loan from his liquidation money and sign the loan paper that he did so. Maybe he would refuse and walk away. Those are the chances you take. But, if you worked on a good employer/employee relationship, he will do what is right and pay you back. And you are protected with the signed paperwork from Secretaria de Trabajo.

Would this not work?

Lindsey
I understand debts owed the employer are deductible. I don't know what proof is necesary to legally prove the debt exists.
 

Mauricio

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I know for a fact that many companies liquidate annually..... perhaps they do that as 'fire & rehire' process.

What you're telling me is that it's all or nothing on the liquidation.. no partial --- OK
Yes, just carrying the note is what I'm doing now..... he wants to pay it of and I keep saying 'not yet'.

Its a nicely signed little piece of paper with our signatures and the amount on it.

Thanks people for helping
While it's true that some companies liquidate their employees annually, it's tricky and you need to know very well what you are doing, else you'll end up paying the whole liquidation again. If you do it well you still will not just pay the severance pay for the time not yet liquidated, but the liquidation for all te years worked minus the earlier paid amounts, which may be a whole other number.

On another note: the severance money is definitely not his or a future obligation you have to him. If he quits he's not entitled to severance pay (although you could ofcourse choose to pay it).

In your case definitely the best option is to give him a loan, while it's more straightforward, but if you want to partly liquidate him I would find a good lawyer that makes the correct contract which assures you don't need to pay again if you would need to fire him.
 

Criss Colon

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I fired an employee many years ago.
I was a "Newbee" here, and let him owe me about 8,000 pesos.
"Sick Child", losing his house, business "Opportunity", "Cocaine",all the usual "BULL$HIT"!!
His liquidation came to 15,000 pesos.
HE SENT HIS WIFE TO PICK IT UP.
i GAVE HER 7,000, and a message for her husband.
"F*#K YOU"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rule # 3b, sub section 4,............. "In the DR, "NO Good Deed Goes UNPUNISHED"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Castle

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I think the "fire & rehire" policy was outlawed long time ago. So was borrowing against your severance, or salary.
I know you have good intentions, but please make sure you don't do anything illegal or the employee might sue you later.