Haitians take over border towns

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Border towns in Pedernales, Independencia, Elias Pina, Dajabon and Montecristi provinces are no one?s land with mass immigration of Haitians, claimed PLD deputy Francisco Bautista in a report in El Nacional. He said that the border control authorities, including the Specialized Border Control Corps (Cesfront) are not capable of controlling the immigration of Haitians to the country. He said for decades the Dominican government has not had a structure for defense of the border and sovereignty. He said that the 385 km border can be described as a no-man?s land and ghost border.

Bautista said that border town hospitals are full of Haitians, and for each Dominican born there, two Haitians are born. He said there are communities, such as Juan Garcia, where for each Dominican household, there are five Haitian. He denounced theft by Haitians of cattle and horses, without any action by the Dominican authorities.

Source: DR1, Elnacional.com.do
 

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If they only sent over the Generals in the DR Army, there would be enough manpower to control the situation.
 

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The articles say that the alcaldes/sindicos/mayors of the towns are Haitian too, and don't even speak Spanish. :cry:
 

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Building a wall is in the talks right now.

Border needs wall to halt Haitians’ peaceful invasion: Lawmaker

Controversial border wall built by Haiti at Elias Pi?a just became more so.



Santo Domingo.- Newly sworn National District deputy Vinicio Castillo Seman on Thursday said it’s “crucial” that president Danilo Medina order the construction of a wall at the Haiti border to secure Dominican Republic’s sovereignty.

He said the country’s physical border requires strict and urgent security measures to control immigration, and "aspire to improve the Dominican population’s human development."

Interviewed by Juli?n Vald?s of the Global Foundation for Democracy and Development (FUNGLODE), the lawmaker said Dominican Republic is being “peacefully invaded by Haitian nationals.”

He added that he will work to get the wall built at the border, “to continue the 17 kilometers (of wall) which they’ve (Haitians) have already built.”


http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/po...l-to-halt-Haitians-peaceful-invasion-Lawmaker
 

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The new Dominican Deputy for the National District, the highly influential Vinicio Castillo indicated in an interview with Julian Valdes, Director of the Political Observatory Dominican "For me, there is a crucial issue for the Dominican Republic, its sovereignty [...] recalling that between the two nations, which share the island, there is a physical boundary, which requires urgent action to allow a strict immigration control."

He said that the Dominican Republic was invaded by Haitian nationals "We are experiencing a peaceful invasion of an indigent population, full of problems, which shares the island with us [...]" Faced with this situation, he intends to propose a popular initiative, alongside the process of regularization of foreigners, launched by the government last June 2, insisting that "If this process is not accompanied by a strong immigration control, we will have great difficulty," explaining that to this end, he would begin to collect more than 300,000 signatures of Dominicans favorable to the construction of a wall along the border with Haiti, which would complement the existing 17 km of walls.

He stressed that with this petition, he intended to promote a bill for the construction of the wall and in case of difficulty, he it will appeal to a national referendum for the Dominican people can freely decide on whether or not the construction of the wall.

According to Admiral Sigfrido Pared P?rez, Minister of the Dominican defense since the beginning of 2014, more than 25,000 people of Haitian origin, who were trying to enter the country illegally were intercepted by the army and the Specialized Corps for Terrestrial Border Security) (Cesfront) and returned to Haiti. However he said that this number of 5,000 illegal immigrants on average each month is less than the monthly average of 6,500 recorded in the year 2013, because according to him "of the strengthening of the military presence and the new controls that tend to discourage illegal immigration candidates."

In addition, the Minister stated that since the beginning of the national regularization plan, additional measures have been put in place, since there are indications that many Haitians seek to exploit the opportunities offered by the authorities to undocumented aliens and illegally enter the Dominican Republic.

An information, that the statements of Colonel Daniel Camino, the new Commander of the Tenth Battalion of themilitary body of Dajab?n, seem to confirm. He explained that since the passing of the law on regularization and naturalization of foreigners living illegally in the Dominican Republic, the interest of thousands of undocumented Haitians rose are more likely to attempt to enter Dominican Republic, induced by a alse rumor in Haiti, suggesting that all illegal get the Dominican residence, which of course is false. He recalled that in the five days following the publication of the law regularization, more than 600 undocumented Haitians were intercepted in transit areas such as Santiago de la Cruz, Copey Ca?ongo, La Aviacion, Don Miguel and other points of easy penetration.


Haiti - Politic : Toward the construction of a wall along the Dominican border ? - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
 
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Don't you see that the BIG picture by Uncle up north, is to unite both and eliminate the borders. Forget teaching Spanish in schools, they'll have to start teaching Creole.
 

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Don't you see that the BIG picture by Uncle up north, is to unite both and eliminate the borders. Forget teaching Spanish in schools, they'll have to start teaching Creole.

If the border wall campaign fails (to control immigration) you bet it will be.

I wonder if there will be an exodus of people leaving or wanting to leave (Dominicans).
 

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Well, we shall wait and see what happens. Can't say they haven't or aren't trying. Opposition is another thing.


One thing I do know and that is there will be quite a lot of people leaving as Dominicans
are not going to want their children learning another language other than their own.(primary)

Those who can will leave while those who can't are screwed.
 
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Well, we shall wait and see what happens. Can't say they haven't or aren't trying. Opposition is another thing.


One thing I do know and that is there will be quite a lot of people leaving as Dominicans
are not going to want their children learning another language other than their own.(primary)

Those who can will leave while those who can't are screwed.

More yolas? ;)
Even though the Haitians are a lot poorer than the Dominicans the Dominicans can learn a lot about education from them. :ermm:
 

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The articles say that the alcaldes/sindicos/mayors of the towns are Haitian too, and don't even speak Spanish. :cry:

I don't see a problem with that. Give everyone a chance to change things!

Speaking more than one language never hurt anybody. Haitian this, Dominican that, must be put to rest!

If we native Dominicans (if we could be called that! Since a lot of us are pretty much the result of a lot of mixing for generations) want to remain majority, then keep making babies to outpace all other comers.

Dominican women nowadays are more worried about their panty lines than having a family. You are lucky if the agree to have but one kid at the most.

On the upside, in a few years we'll have a decent soccer team that may become a contender in major competitions...

As it is, the DR is underpopulated. Needs people that want to work, instead of hanging out in corners playing dominoes all afternoon. That's why we came up with the perfect amnesty bill. You work, you get to stay. You idle around too much, too long, you go!
 

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More yolas? ;)
Even though the Haitians are a lot poorer than the Dominicans the Dominicans(poor) can learn a lot about education from them. :ermm:

As it is right now, both Haitians and Dominicans are scrambling to get off the island so that should tell you(right there) things are not well as far as jobs are concerned.

There just isn't enough jobs for the masses.
 
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That's why we came up with the perfect amnesty bill. You work, you get to stay. You idle around too much, too long, you go!

smart attitude. my mantra "legalize and tax" is fitting here. let those people stay and live in DR providing that they contribute to economy: pay taxes, create workplaces, offer services.
 

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The articles say that the alcaldes/sindicos/mayors of the towns are Haitian too, and don't even speak Spanish. :cry:

I would be really really surprised if this were really true?!?!? The Haitians cannot VOTE! right?! So how can there be mayors who cannot speak Spanish?

Ok, it has been a long time, probably four years ,,. since I have been to Dajabon and Monte Christi but they were really Dominican towns .. thoroughly Dominican.
very few Haitians visible except on market days (guess I had better go back!)

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There certainly was a creeping barrio of Haitians down in Anse a Pitres, in shacks with no electricity, and then up in the hills and along the route of the highway.. along the border area.

There has been a law on the books of the DR for years offering incentives for businesses to go and base themselves in the Frontier but no one seems to want to live there. The only real business is the trade with Haiti.

Of course, the wall is a silly proposal because unless you are going to patrol it every three feet with guys who cannot be bribed.. (yeah,, just find them) then the Haitians will climb it..