Trying to understand Dominican politics

Alltimegreat

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Can the Dominican parties be listed from most right-wing to most left-wing in a way that would make sense to a European or American? I know some people will say all parties are corrupt and don't stand for anything but filling their own wallets. This of course can be said about the EU as well. But just taking the official positions and policies of the Dominican parties, which are the left-wing and which are the right-wing parties?
 

the gorgon

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Can the Dominican parties be listed from most right-wing to most left-wing in a way that would make sense to a European or American? I know some people will say all parties are corrupt and don't stand for anything but filling their own wallets. This of course can be said about the EU as well. But just taking the official positions and policies of the Dominican parties, which are the left-wing and which are the right-wing parties?

to characterize parties as being left wing or right wing, or centrist implies that there is such a thing as a p?litical philosophy at work. in the DR, there is no such thing. one set of guys run things for a period of time, while another set sits and waits their turn. nothing more, nothing less.
 

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I knew a person who got a stipend monthly since she had 3 kids in school. I asked her about the program hoping to understand Dominican politics and her reply was "It comes from Vargas, Francis Vargas." whom is a local senador. Didn't help me much, nor do I expect it will help you much to understand Dominican Politics. but there it is!
 

PICHARDO

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to characterize parties as being left wing or right wing, or centrist implies that there is such a thing as a p?litical philosophy at work. in the DR, there is no such thing. one set of guys run things for a period of time, while another set sits and waits their turn. nothing more, nothing less.

Sure, right!

Jesus!!
 

bob saunders

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Jesus was on the far left. In actuality, not right, he believed in helping others.

Left in politics doesn't mean helping others, wow have you been indoctrinated. It means taxing the **** out of middle class and above while spending money you don't have.
 

the gorgon

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Sure, right!

Jesus!!

not much of a response there, PICHARDO. clear this one up for us.

one year the PRD is contesting an election against the PLD. four years later, its candidate is the guy they ran against. tell us how that works.
 

the gorgon

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Was it the PLD and PRD, previous opposition parties, that just recently combined or formed an alliance? My question since then has been what other party/ies are their? Are they considered opposition to this new alliance party?

Openly admit that I know very little about Dominican politics but somewhat interested just due to my general interest in politics and governing.

exactly. i know PICHARDO will sophisticate things with some historical drivel, but the fact of the matter is that the PLD was opposed by the PRD in the last election. now they have the same guy as their candidate.
 

KyleMackey

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Can the Dominican parties be listed from most right-wing to most left-wing in a way that would make sense to a European or American? I know some people will say all parties are corrupt and don't stand for anything but filling their own wallets. This of course can be said about the EU as well. But just taking the official positions and policies of the Dominican parties, which are the left-wing and which are the right-wing parties?

Google it,
 

PICHARDO

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not much of a response there, PICHARDO. clear this one up for us.

one year the PRD is contesting an election against the PLD. four years later, its candidate is the guy they ran against. tell us how that works.

For what? You already know all the answer and everything to do with DR (including politics) as it SHOWS!


NOT!
 

PICHARDO

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Was it the PLD and PRD, previous opposition parties, that just recently combined or formed an alliance? My question since then has been what other party/ies are their? Are they considered opposition to this new alliance party?

Openly admit that I know very little about Dominican politics but somewhat interested just due to my general interest in politics and governing.

Read up on the leader of the PRD and what let him to form another party away from the PRD at the time.

Also you must read up on what his policies where when he was deposed under the go-ahead of the USA.
 

the gorgon

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Read up on the leader of the PRD and what let him to form another party away from the PRD at the time.

Also you must read up on what his policies where when he was deposed under the go-ahead of the USA.

you are the Dominican in this thread. you are the guy who should know the answers. tell us what is the difference between the PLD and the PRD. knock yourself out.
 

bob saunders

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Pot calling the kettle black regarding indoctrination...

In my individual view most political parties everywhere raise revenues(i.e taxes) and the question is just what they call it and how they package it. Sometimes it is out of necessity, sometime corruption, sometimes incompetence but whatever the reason is, unless their is some sort of major political shock taking place in the environment, most political parties will raise revenues in some form or another.

When the shocks come, every 30-50 years or so, the common man has a chance to see a reset and bring the overall tax burden down.

I'm sure that all your views are individual views. As has been said many times in different ways most countries don't have revenue problems they have spending problems. The left, at least the way it is in western country promote class warfare and bank account envy. The old fair share thing, that nobody is quite willing to define. RICH BAD- POOR GOOD kind of sums it up, and the poor who are a larger group than the rich , suck it up.
 

jstarebel

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to characterize parties as being left wing or right wing, or centrist implies that there is such a thing as a p?litical philosophy at work. in the DR, there is no such thing. one set of guys run things for a period of time, while another set sits and waits their turn. nothing more, nothing less.

Nail on the head here Gordon. It's the same for all of the other Caribbean Islands as well. You can't look at anything on island and expect to see it equal to an American or European perspective.
 

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PLD was founded by a socialist (Juan Bosch) Juan Bosch has been long gone of course.
Some of his ideas are still alive within some party members that were in the party
back then, and supposedly under his tutelage (Leonel Fernandez, Danilo Medina)
That is probably why there is a free Health Care program (SENASA) and why the poor kids
have a voucher for meals. Now These 2 fellas are the best of the worse, and that is because
they were supposedly socialist initially, but, turned capitalist along the way.

When these 2 die there will be practically no one who will even care about the poor (IMHO)
and it will be a feeding frenzy, as it was when PRD was in the presidency years back.
Every man for himself, and then any decent person will have to get the hell out of dodge.

I suspect PRD will win the presidency in 2020 and I'll sell everything and go to Canada.
 

the gorgon

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Nail on the head here Gordon. It's the same for all of the other Caribbean Islands as well. You can't look at anything on island and expect to see it equal to an American or European perspective.

rebel, at least the ex British colonies have some sort of political positions which diverge. Michael Manley of Jamaica was a socialist, while the leader of the opposing Jamaica Labor Party was a flat out laissez faire capitalist. leadership in the british caribbean has been like that. Eric Williams of Trinidad was a socialist. so is Dr Gonsalves, of St Vincent. the DR has no such situation. i want someone to tell me what is the political position of the DR, vis a vis capitalism, socialism, centrism...
 

jstarebel

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rebel, at least the ex British colonies have some sort of political positions which diverge. Michael Manley of Jamaica was a socialist, while the leader of the opposing Jamaica Labor Party was a flat out laissez faire capitalist. leadership in the british caribbean has been like that. Eric Williams of Trinidad was a socialist. so is Dr Gonsalves, of St Vincent. the DR has no such situation. i want someone to tell me what is the political position of the DR, vis a vis capitalism, socialism, centrism...

Agreed. You know what I enjoy seeing is that elections on the islands throughout the Caribbean are a really big thing that everyone no matter which side they are on are involved in.. None of this 30% of the population voting crap, or the politicians trying to go after specific groups. The issues are the issues period. no back and fourth between issues crap.
 

beeza

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Just choose a color you like and vote for it. Purple seems to be in vogue these days. You'd have better luck categorizing the parties that way rather than trying to use modern political terminology.
 

Alltimegreat

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absolutely correct, rebel. it is like rule by country club.

That may be true, but there are places which are much worse. Germany, for example, is arguably the most undemocratic country in the western world. Plenty of elections held, but the policies pursued by the government are never even close to being in line with what the majority of people want. Real democracy in the form of referendums would never be allowed.
As "corrupt" as the Dominican government may be viewed to be, it does seem to care much more about the will of their people than do EU countries like Germany.