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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecoman1949 View Post
    When I see Jimmy Buffett and Oprah Winfreys yachts tied up at the Sosua marina, I'll believe it's actually happening. Can't imagine Jimmy writing a Cheeseburger In Paradise song about Sosua. Still, stranger things have happened.
    He just might. For now, we will have to do with this one:


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    Quote Originally Posted by windeguy View Post
    WW, I think you are correct. The current attempt to clean up the reputation of Sosua is being done to attract investment to the DR, not just to Sosua. That bad reputation is what the DR government sees as one impediment to this new development on the north coast.

    Those focussing on just one small section of Sosua, where the whore-mongers are saviours of the hooker's children for whom they provide the only possible sustenance , are missing this very important point.
    To attract serious investment, tourism and eliminate the bad reputation the gov.do needs to focus on:
    Hospitals
    Ambulances
    Paramedics
    911 service
    24/7 electricity
    Tap drinking water
    Municipal road repair/ upgrade
    Sidewalks
    Street lighting
    Policing
    Honest courts and judges
    Education for Dominicans
    Stop pretending that a few mongers and prostitutes are the real problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo Tropical View Post
    To attract serious investment, tourism and eliminate the bad reputation the gov.do needs to focus on:
    Hospitals -
    Ambulances
    Paramedics
    911 service
    24/7 electricity
    Tap drinking water
    Municipal road repair/ upgrade
    Sidewalks
    Street lighting
    Policing
    Honest courts and judges
    Education for Dominicans
    Stop pretending that a few mongers and prostitutes are the real problem.
    Forget forever about honest courts and judges, drinking water from the tap, and real paramedics. Education for Dominicans is highly doubtful.
    911 service, 24/7 electricity , fixing roads, side walks, street lighting are possible. Although 24/7 power everywhere is unlikely.

    For even the possible things to happen, the few mongers and prostitutes that exist at any given time are being driven as far from public view as possible in order to attract investments that will help with some, but not all, of the missing things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo Tropical View Post
    To attract serious investment, tourism and eliminate the bad reputation the gov.do needs to focus on:
    Hospitals
    Ambulances
    Paramedics
    911 service
    24/7 electricity
    Tap drinking water
    Municipal road repair/ upgrade
    Sidewalks
    Street lighting
    Policing
    Honest courts and judges
    Education for Dominicans
    Stop pretending that a few mongers and prostitutes are the real problem.
    I don't think it's "a few" mongers. The town only only attracts mongers of late and not high quality mongers - cheap sweaty and unsophisticated groups..
    Men who think they can do anything to a woman, degrade her, take video and post it online on porn sites. Google Sosua and sex and you will see what you can find including one man who claims to have had sex with 31 women in a week.
    And some other idiot called Cuba Dave who boasts of all his conquests with photos.
    Sosua is gaining a reputation like Phuket, Thailand and read about some of the recent murders and the crime syndicates from Russia
    ruining the vibe. If you let a place deteriorate as has Sosua, with crime against tourists increasing, as it has done in the past 4 years it will be forever tainted as dangerous and dirty. If the beach was not so nice Sosua would loose it's attraction for most non-monger tourists altogether.
    What might really help is if they actually developed the golf course that has been planned. But developing or doing anything in the DR has become too expensive and too frustrating with bribes and rip-offs.
    One thing for certain the town doesn't have just a few mongers - it has a way too many and they are very loud, cheap and are ruining the town for all others.

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    Simply stated chico, Sosua was the undisciplined child...

    What I mean is, if you have a child, and then never discipline it, it will eventually misbehave more and more until finally it becomes something you can no longer tolerate/deal with. Same holds true for the whole puta story in Sosua and all the guys who came down and made videos, wrote all about the exploits on websites/Facebook, and god knows where else.

    The funny part of it is, the town turned a blind eye to it for a long time and now are trying to discipline the child that was left to its own devices. They had decades to "cull the herd" and keep things to a dull roar, but let it blossom.

    They also had decades to try make the town into a family tourist town, but did nothing in regards to try to get investors to build more AI's or attractions to convert it.

    The proverbial fire brigade is showing up after the fire...

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    I think they think if they break it and kill Sosua then investors will come... Really? Why do people think these crazy things? It certainly could happen in our imagination and maybe it will, but that is far far from certain. Given the old infrastructure here that is dysfunctional and the effort and costs required for gentrification and the lack of any city plan/planning, the city will likely have an uphill battle to hold its head above water and keep going. Some people seem to think there is a grand plan for re-investment. Maybe, but I sure don't see any evidence of it.

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    This is still hilarious that some people think the prostitution, drug and crime are only the problems of Sosua, and once that is cleaned up the whole NC or even DR can become a magnet for investment and prosperity.

    Well, it's laughable form those who don't know DR at all, but really sad that the delusional government seems to think this as well... !

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico bill View Post
    I don't think it's "a few" mongers. The town only only attracts mongers of late and not high quality mongers - cheap sweaty and unsophisticated groups..
    Men who think they can do anything to a woman, degrade her, take video and post it online on porn sites. Google Sosua and sex and you will see what you can find including one man who claims to have had sex with 31 women in a week.
    And some other idiot called Cuba Dave who boasts of all his conquests with photos.
    Sosua is gaining a reputation like Phuket, Thailand and read about some of the recent murders and the crime syndicates from Russia
    ruining the vibe. If you let a place deteriorate as has Sosua, with crime against tourists increasing, as it has done in the past 4 years it will be forever tainted as dangerous and dirty. If the beach was not so nice Sosua would loose it's attraction for most non-monger tourists altogether.
    What might really help is if they actually developed the golf course that has been planned. But developing or doing anything in the DR has become too expensive and too frustrating with bribes and rip-offs.
    One thing for certain the town doesn't have just a few mongers - it has a way too many and they are very loud, cheap and are ruining the town for all others.

    You almost had me, all the way to this point right here.. lmao..
    Maybe you are speaking of a very specific type of Monger. .lol
    Are Norwegians loud ? maybe Aussies..lol i dont know, not gonna go there.

    But, Do you even know what the Average Daily " Budget " of a monger is ??
    Not arguing for or against..
    I will clue you in , because I know... Its around $200 a day... and that's hard cash SPENT.. some go much higher to well over $300/ Day

    show me one other group that spends that kind of cash , per day..per PERSON.
    ( dont care if you believe in Reagan Economics, but that Son , is a LOT of Trickle down $$)

    again, not arguing for or against the whole scene.. cuz i really dont care..
    but show me.. cuz this I DO know as a Mathematical Fact..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzin View Post
    This is still hilarious that some people think the prostitution, drug and crime are only the problems of Sosua, and once that is cleaned up the whole NC or even DR can become a magnet for investment and prosperity.

    Well, it's laughable form those who don't know DR at all, but really sad that the delusional government seems to think this as well... !
    Sweeping statements.

    No doubt therefore that you have travelled extensively and visited all parts of the North Coast between Monte Cristi and Nagua and speak with an authority and understanding of this tourism market far better than those within the Ministry of Tourism, the regional Tourist Boards and the regional hospitality operators let alone central government.

    Fact is that they have done exceptionally well in generating successful tourism nationally and a projected 6 million plus visitors excluding cruisers and domestic visitors this year. Perhaps they know very much more about DR and the North Coast than you?

    Suggest you pick up the phone and talk to them personally about your assessments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzin View Post
    This is still hilarious that some people think the prostitution, drug and crime are only the problems of Sosua, and once that is cleaned up the whole NC or even DR can become a magnet for investment and prosperity.

    Well, it's laughable form those who don't know DR at all, but really sad that the delusional government seems to think this as well... !
    Well fill us in on the rest of the problems , perhaps ones that are unique to the north coast and dont exist in the rest of the country.

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