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    i grilled miesposo a bit more on this. he's not been to the airport but he was on a road leading to it and says the area has a feeling of abandonment. road from SD to barahona is ok but further to pedernales is a struggle.

    when i asked him about the chances of tourist development he was doubtful. he has worked in hotel/tourism business for few years and says it would be hard to keep people in the area as there is not much to do in terms of excursions.

    i can see a certain model of tourism, less AI and more boutique and hermetic, with own amenities like golf course, horse riding ranch and so on but that would require massive investment and lots of infrastructure provided by the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ju10prd View Post
    Agreed but perhaps with 'Warning not suitable for motorcycle tours in the summer'. But ideal for Casa Bonita and Rancho Platon and lesser establishment customers (but they are always full even in low season as was the case when I visited two weeks ago when the weather was 100 times more pleasant than Santo Domingo).
    Far more than just motorcycling (which is very cool, no matter the weather, when you're moving.) We also take many people in our 15-passenger van, and spend a LOT of time doing non-motorcycle things.

    Casa Bonita is nice as are a couple other boutique establishments. But even Casa Bonita is a tiny establishment.

    Broad tourism needs many thousands for tourism-designated areas to survive. And while the SW is "unique", as much as I wish otherwise there just isn't much to do there beyond some sightseeing and a nice drive to see the Caribbean Sea. The beaches are non-spectacular. Sorry, but rock beaches don't attract tourists; BdLA is awesome, but difficult to access. Lago Enriquillo is unique, but there isn't much there anymore since the floods have destroyed the coastline and National Parks. La Descubierta---one of our stops---has a nice oasis of sorts, but nothing else. There are the iguanas and Las Caritas, cute stops. Some grapes in Neiba. Sugar production. Windmills in Los Cocos, the lagoon close by. Pedernales is pretty much nothing, some larimar mines, unique topography...but nothing down there of real draw for the typical tourist.

    My fear would be folks would go there once, see a lot of dry scrub and beastly hot weather and just not return. Even tourism needs return customers.

    Yeah, it's great for the adventurous eco-tourists, no doubt, but those make up only a tiny sliver of the tourist universe.

    I like the southwest. It's very different from what the "average" tourist expects from a Caribbean island: not tropical, arid and very dirt-poor people. The riding is interesting, especially getting off the main road and going to Bahia de Las Aguilas. Get off the pavement at the airport and ride 5 miles on washboard hardpacked gravel, fun stuff on a bike.

    In 8 years, I have found that riders who come down for the SouthWest tour come back to the DR only 10% for a second tour, but those who do the North Coast tour first come back for the SW tour 75% of the time. That stat should speak volumes.

    The airport would need significant upgrades to work, like 5000' more of runway. Cabo Rojo Airport only has 4950' of runway and no precision approaches.

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    There is a small airfield at Cabo Rojo which is in between Bahia las Aguilas and Pedernales. We went there with Frank and his crazy Norwegian friend. It is a very pretty and unspoiled part of the country.

    The airfield is controlled by the air force and sometimes they answer the radio. Just make sure there are no cows on the runway before you land!

    It's about an hour flight from POP to Cabo Rojo. I've heard that the drive is around nine hours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobraboy View Post

    The airport would need significant upgrades to work, like 5000' more of runway. Cabo Rojo Airport only has 4950' of runway and no precision approaches.
    Precision approaches are for sissys! Do a really loose right hand pattern. Fly over Bahia Las Aguilas go out to sea, turn right and line up on RWY 12. The view is breathtaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8 View Post
    i see there is a small airport in barahona, has it ever been used for commercial flights? i wonder if it can be fixed or adapted for larger aircrafts.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3...tional_Airport

    Yes!! American Eagle used to fly into BARAHONA but this was way back in 2001.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beeza View Post
    Precision approaches are for sissys! Do a really loose right hand pattern. Fly over Bahia Las Aguilas go out to sea, turn right and line up on RWY 12. The view is breathtaking.
    I can imagine. But as you know airlines won't fly into airports without one, even in a desert.

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    There are lots of places to eat or stay in Barahona, but not generally of the sort that wealthy foreign tourists would enjoy.
    Further toward Pedernales there are some decent small hotels in Los Patos. Small as in 20 rooms or fewer.
    I can't comment on Las Aguilas, never having been there.

    The Barahona Airport could handle commercial flights, but there are none because there are not sufficient people who wish to travel to and from Barahona.

    There are a lot of unemployed people in the area, but they tend to be rather illiterate. Public education may be improving, but it is inadequate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobraboy View Post
    The beaches are non-spectacular. Sorry, but rock beaches don't attract tourists
    yep. miesposo's first words were: tourists want white sand beaches.

    personally, i find pebble beaches rather interesting. i've only seen one, in brighton and it was both novelty and something unforgettable. also a proof that stone beaches can attract some tourists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8 View Post
    yep. miesposo's first words were: tourists want white sand beaches.

    personally, i find pebble beaches rather interesting. i've only seen one, in brighton and it was both novelty and something unforgettable. also a proof that stone beaches can attract some tourists.
    Brighton, my home town! One of the appeals of a pebbly beach was that you didn't get sand everywhere such as in your car or when you arrived home. Other than that, not really much of a beach experience. Although there are still nutters who like to go for a swim on Christmas day!

    But Brighton seafront is lovely. Great for people watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8 View Post
    yep. miesposo's first words were: tourists want white sand beaches.

    personally, i find pebble beaches rather interesting. i've only seen one, in brighton and it was both novelty and something unforgettable. also a proof that stone beaches can attract some tourists.
    A problem with pebble beaches in the DR is they are not compatible with glass (beer) bottles like sand is.

    The numerous times we've been to Los Patos & Paraiso (which is NOT Paraiso) is broken glass is everywhere, wedged between the pebbles. I've witnessed, every visit to the beach, someone getting their foot cut by glass---thankfully not one of our guests.

    On the positive side, I give great kudos & props for the city fathers who were responsible for the great improvements to Los Patos over the years.

    Oh, and I DO enjoy the sound created by the wave-on-pebble action...

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