Electricity Pact may lead to job losses - about time

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Hopefully government corruption will be reduced in this sham of a "business":


Electricity Pact may lead to job losses
The executive vice president of the Association of Industries of the Dominican Republic (AIRD), Circe Almanzar says that the Electricity Pact, which is now in the hands of the President of the Republic to sign, will come at a political cost for the government as some institutions in the sector will be eliminated while others will be transformed.

In an interview on the television program D’Agenda, transmitted by Telesistema, Circe Almánzar said the role of the Dominican Public Electricity Corporation (CDEEE) will totally change when the Pact comes into operation and several of its current functions will be eliminated.

She also said that among the organizations that would disappear are the Unit of Rural and Suburban Electrification (UERS) and the National Commission of Energy Policies. The role of the former would pass to the electricity distribution companies.

She added that in respect to the National Energy Commission, the Ministry of Energy and Mines could take over that role, as there are too many institutions in the sector.

She stated that there would be unified boards although the three distributors would remain as public companies.

She said that as happened in the transport sector, there are too many institutions with a duplication of functions in the energy area.

https://www.diariolibre.com/economia...ades-ML8519248
 

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She said that as happened in the transport sector, there are too many institutions with a duplication of functions in the energy area.

Duplication of functions is banana republic speak for people given jobs with no responsibility to do anything. "botella corrupción"
 

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Government corruption reduced en La Republica? Tu 'ta loco 'manito? One can only wish.
 

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Electricity Pact may lead to job losses
The executive vice president of the Association of Industries of the Dominican Republic (AIRD), Circe Almanzar says that the Electricity Pact, which is now in the hands of the President of the Republic to sign, will come at a political cost for the government as some institutions in the sector will be eliminated while others will be transformed.

In an interview on the television program D’Agenda, transmitted by Telesistema, Circe Almánzar said the role of the Dominican Public Electricity Corporation (CDEEE) will totally change when the Pact comes into operation and several of its current functions will be eliminated.

She also said that among the organizations that would disappear are the Unit of Rural and Suburban Electrification (UERS) and the National Commission of Energy Policies. The role of the former would pass to the electricity distribution companies.

She added that in respect to the National Energy Commission, the Ministry of Energy and Mines could take over that role, as there are too many institutions in the sector.

She stated that there would be unified boards although the three distributors would remain as public companies.

She said that as happened in the transport sector, there are too many institutions with a duplication of functions in the energy area.

https://www.diariolibre.com/economia...ades-ML8519248

I read the sign above the Edenorte Office the first time I had a complaint : "abandon hope all ye who enter here". I did but still wish you the best of luck. Only one person I ever knew got the best of Edenorte and I married her.
 

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I read the sign above the Edenorte Office the first time I had a complaint : "abandon hope all ye who enter here". I did but still wish you the best of luck. Only one person I ever knew got the best of Edenorte and I married her.

I really don't mean anything against your wife by what I am about to say, so please don't take it personally.

My personal experience with Edenorte is that everyone they hire has to fail an intelligence test.

Now, back to a situation we have. Our area is the last circuit I am aware of in Cabarete that does not have 24/7 power. We have been told that in December, the upgrades they have been doing over the past several months will finally allow us to have 24/7 power AND we will actually have 24/7 power such as that can be here. I tell them that if they simply left the power on all of the time, we would have 24/7 power now. They don't get it.
 

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In the past 28 years in the campo near SFM we have 12 hours a day power. The day I shall see 24/7 I will be in the grave yard !!
 

windeguy

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In the past 28 years in the campo near SFM we have 12 hours a day power. The day I shall see 24/7 I will be in the grave yard !!

The way that they have brought "difficult" areas to 24/7 power is by forcing the customers to use "pay-as-you-go" meters to get the level of payment up enough to leave power on all day. The most common reason for not being on all the time is because so much electricity is being stolen.
 

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The way that they have brought "difficult" areas to 24/7 power is by forcing the customers to use "pay-as-you-go" meters to get the level of payment up enough to leave power on all day. The most common reason for not being on all the time is because so much electricity is being stolen.

Can you please explain the term "pay-as-you-go"? Is this the same as simply paying your bill on time at the end of the month, or a pre-paid option based on historical prior usage?
 

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Can you please explain the term "pay-as-you-go"? Is this the same as simply paying your bill on time at the end of the month, or a pre-paid option based on historical prior usage?

No, it's more like adding minutes to your phone if you have a prepago plan. You prepay your electricity, when the money runs out, no more lights.
 

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So in effect it would be a pre-paid option based on historical prior usage, if you are indeed responsible with maintaining your monthly bills, and understanding the voltage/k-wattage you consume on average monthly. This isn't a problem for most, surprisingly for some here, Dominicans included.
 

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So in effect it would be a pre-paid option based on historical prior usage, if you are indeed responsible with maintaining your monthly bills, and understanding the voltage/k-wattage you consume on average monthly. This isn't a problem for most, surprisingly for some here, Dominicans included.

Prepaid by going to a pay-point and paying however much you want to add to the meter. When the amount runs out, you pay again or you have zero electricity until you do. Very effective as long as they don't figure out a way to remove the meter from the circuit. Thinks if prepaid telephone service. A business model many Dominicans know very well.

Now if they do remove the meter from the circuit and go back to stealing electricity, they actually have to face a criminal penalty and that is something the government has not had the balls to do up to this point. Time will tell. In may case things are supposed to improve before the new year.
 

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I really don't mean anything against your wife by what I am about to say, so please don't take it personally.

My personal experience with Edenorte is that everyone they hire has to fail an intelligence test.

Now, back to a situation we have. Our area is the last circuit I am aware of in Cabarete that does not have 24/7 power. We have been told that in December, the upgrades they have been doing over the past several months will finally allow us to have 24/7 power AND we will actually have 24/7 power such as that can be here. I tell them that if they simply left the power on all of the time, we would have 24/7 power now. They don't get it.

The don't get it attitude is a defense.
Imagine if you sat in an office all day and had to defend Edenorte polices and procedures to hordes of angry people who had been abused and cheated by a system that does not work.

Your particular situation is compounded by the fact that you know more about what they are supposed to do than they do.
Hope you get your December Christmas present.
 

windeguy

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The don't get it attitude is a defense.
Imagine if you sat in an office all day and had to defend Edenorte polices and procedures to hordes of angry people who had been abused and cheated by a system that does not work.

Your particular situation is compounded by the fact that you know more about what they are supposed to do than they do.
Hope you get your December Christmas present.

Thanks, perhaps the latest words everyone is hearing are finally true.

Of course the attitude is built up over years of a failed government owned company that gave out electricity as a form of welfare while people suffered through poor service and blackouts. It was a huge mistake to allow people to steal electricity for so long.
 

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No, it's more like adding minutes to your phone if you have a prepago plan. You prepay your electricity, when the money runs out, no more lights.
I saw this in practice two weeks ago in a twelve unit apartment complex outside Punta Cana; didn't know that was a payment option for electric service.
 

windeguy

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I saw this in practice two weeks ago in a twelve unit apartment complex outside Punta Cana; didn't know that was a payment option for electric service.

It is the current attempt to get people to pay who would otherwise be stealing electricity. It is meeting success in Santo Domingo and apparently in Punta Cana. The prepaid keypad device I saw was on an inside wall of an apartment in Santo Domingo. Time will tell if it works on the last straggling circuit in Cabarete.