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Thread: Dominican Republic's ranking in English

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    The Punta Cana-Bavaro area has at least four bilingual schools. Three are good, the other(s) not so much. The one you refer to in La Romana (Lincoln) has the reputation of being among the best in the country.

    I am not disputing that in the private educational sector, which is already catering for a minority (~20%), the schools that turn out good English speakers are a subset. Maybe a majority within that 20%, maybe not - it's difficult to quantify.

    My point was that based on my experience there is a significant number of excellent English speakers in the country, mainly but not exclusively the product of the better bilingual schools. This shows that with the right resources, teaching skills and student motivation, teaching and learning of English can be effective.

    As I'm bilingual it's natural for me to have both English and Spanish-speaking friends. The language we use will depend on which language most people in the conversation feel comfortable speaking. Sometimes it's one or the other, often it's a combination. This usually happens intuitively, based on respect for the monolinguals.

    This is a non-controversial subject that can be discussed respectfully and constructively based on our differing experiences and viewpoints. Isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipling333 View Post
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    I edited your post #30. Quite the misogynist comment at the end. ‘As you are a woman... etc.’

    I am a woman too who moderates this forum. What is the issue?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chirimoya View Post
    My comments are based my own experience of bilingual school students and graduates so this is also anecdote and not evidence.

    My son is in 12th grade in a bilingual school in Punta Cana. Most of his classmates as well as his friends from other bilingual schools in the country have mastered English to a high level, including those from 100% Spanish-speaking backgrounds. Some have gone/will go on to study in US and UK universities.

    Many of the Dominican adults we know went to good bilingual schools in Santo Domingo, Bonao and La Romana. They can hold a conversation and express themselves well in English. Some are almost indistinguishable from native US English speakers.

    One of my husband's nieces and two of his nephews - with no English whatsoever in the family background - went to good bilingual schools in the capital (New Horizons and MC School). Their spoken and written English is so good that in the US they would probably not stand out as foreigners.

    I also know several Dominican adults who did not go to bilingual schools but learnt English in evening classes/are self taught. Their written and spoken English is better than many native English speakers. For example: when my son was in kindergarten the teaching assistant was a young Dominican woman who spoke fluent English. I assumed she had grown up in the US. Turned out she had never been out of the DR and her self-effacing explanation was "Disney Channel". Another example is former DR1er Pib whose English is so good that she occasionally introduces me to new words. In fact, as with the teaching assistant, when I first met Pib I automatically assumed she'd lived in an English-speaking country but her answer was "Nope - MTV."

    Of these friends and relations, most if not all of those who read have a preference for reading in English. I belong to a book club for English-speaking women and three of our members are Dominican; they also prefer reading in English. This is why some educated Dominicans are opposed to sending their children to bilingual schools - they fear that the Spanish language and Dominican culture are being displaced by the English language and US culture.
    You ain't kidding: the first time I came across 'repartee' was by way of Pib, as she moderated one of the forums a few years ago.

    And I've also met several Dominicans who are very, very fluent. A young lady who once asked me for a copy of Pride and Prejudice, told me she learned a lot by looking up lyrics to Coldplay tunes. I think she dreams in English now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post
    You ain't kidding: the first time I came across 'repartee' was by way of Pib, as she moderated one of the forums a few years ago.


    Pib is also a killer Words With Friends player in English.  It’s been awhile since we had a game, I think I’ve recovered sufficiently to try again.  




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    Quote Originally Posted by AlterEgo View Post
    Pib is also a killer Words With Friends player in English.  It’s been awhile since we had a game, I think I’ve recovered sufficiently to try again.  
    There was a time when I fancied myself a Scrabble killer, but I'm glad she never challenged me. The more I played, the less I knew.

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