balaguer

you mean,what one man's opinion of Doctor Balaguer was!

He is still loved by millions! Cris Colon

Cris is absolutely correct. Balaguer occupies a very unique place in this country. Otherwise, why would a man who was blind, feeble and in his 90s still have been a serious candidate for president.

If you are in the Dominican Republic, I would be very careful about who I told that Balaguer was a "mf".

You see, my ignorant friend

We have a problem:
A) You try and rule or govern this country with the highest ideals.
But you p!ss off the military and they kick you out in 7 months. Or,
B) You get some of the oligarchy to rule the country, but they seem to line their own pockets and are relatively ineffective, anyway. Or,
C) You try to re-install (A) but it smells of being too far left andthe US gets scared (It's the Cold War after all...) and sends the 82 Airborne and the Second Marine Division to "Protect US citizens and interests." Or,

D) You win an election based on very conservative politics, a promise to restore order, the backing of people large and small, but there are some opposition leaders that don't understand how the game is played and try to mess around. Somehow, they get "erased." With perhaps two exceptions that were pumped up by the PRD opposition, not many were mourned by more than their families. And law and order were restored, the country prospered. THEN,

E) The PRD finally won an election without bitching and moaning.
The president, no great thinker, was so depressed after four years of so much sh!t that he put a bullet in his head while in the barber's chair in the National Palace. THEN,
F) A PRD VP managed to somehow get RD$47 million out of the public coffers in 47 days, BEFORE
G) Handing over to the next PRD President who did last 4 years but ended up in jail along with a couple of his buddies, while others fled across the border dressed as women...Riots, IMF intervention, corruption of untold millions. Then.

H)The people elect BALAGUER again. Calm reigns. They elect him again and the opposition cries "foul." Boo hoo hoo.. And blind and feeble, but never feeble minded, he was elected again!! This time the humongeous fraud was denounced by the socialists on an international scale and the US rounded up support to "negotiate" a two year term before handing the reins over to the opposition in a supervised election. Now,

I) The most "organized" party wins (with the tremendous help of Balaguer who would never let Pe?a win) , ups the public debt, falsly heating up the economy, has all party members eating well, but the rest of the country is sucking hind tit (If you are too young to understand that expression, it means "eating sh!t".) SO

J)The next election is won by the PRD(Edited to add: They won only because Balaguer refused to assist the PLD again, feeling that they had not lived up to their commitments of the prior election. So they lost Blind and physically weak, he actually controlled the last two elections.), governing for everyone but not forgetting their own. Over 125,000 jobs are created to be put on the government payroll, they discover that the DR has good credit and BAM!!! we get saddled with 1.2 billions of dollars more in debt, just in bond issues that have not done Jack Schitt for the country.....

And you think you know the political ins and outs of this place? If you don't rule with a certain toughness, you don't rule. Your party rules you. Balaguer ruled, not his party.

And that's Capital "B" alaguer, sonny.....

HB

Amazing how smart a person gets after watching one TV documentary.

Sonny, you are not old enough

Nor are you smart enough. I did not "justify" anything. It happened, and it has happened in every government.

People have been killed because someone did not like how the exchange market was going. Any one remember the big, fat guy named Mendez that was found in a cane field? No justification.

Grow up sonny; either you have the "testicular fortitude" cited by one of the leading economists, or you don't.

Balaguer did. EOS.

HB

Let's see if you learn anything

1. Balaguer's parents were from?_______________________

2. Was Balaguer an American Citizen?. ___________________

3. Which Dominican town gave birth to Balaguer?___________


just bugging lol!

Erickxson

Well, if you think Balaguer was bad lets revisit a bit of PRD history:

Antonio Guzman kills himself afer discovering the extent of corruption by his close associates and family.

Salvador Gorge Blanco-- well, we all know about him & the corruption charges. The IMF situation of 1984.

Mejia: uses bonos soberanos to basically buy the 2002 elections; his government presides over the biggest financial fiasco to hit the Dominican Republic- ever. The media here is calling it Argentina Redux. Not to mention bad loans to government officials, defaulted credit cards used by government officials-- that is what drove Baninter into the ground.

Fred,

You talk a lot of shit considering the few posts that you have. Do you have any credentials to speak of to make you a more serious person than the average WAHOO?

I am just curious mind you.

Fred,

You talk a lot of shit considering the few posts that you have. Do you have any credentials to speak of to make you a more serious person than the average WAHOO?

I am just curious mind you.



I know the truth hurts. But the truth is coming out little by little. Just like the Central Bank could not keep Bainter "tapado"....Dominicanos, no se hagan la vista gorda!

the documentary

It never even followed the history books,
Who made the documentary?
And who paid for it.
It was certainly slanted the opposite diretion to whatever I have read.

HB, I am with you, on this one.

Someone should see the film "In a time of Butterflies" (I think that is the correct title), a bit more realistic to say the least, Balaguer was in the movie but it was based around Trujillo

And ERICKXSON

He was born in Villa Navarrete, not an American citizen,

see this article
http://www.joaquinbalaguer.com.do/Biografia.htm

he was naturalized american his parents were Puerto Rican migrants and when the US decided to give P.ricans Citizenship they left the country to new york...

Balaguer

TO corecto:
Where can I see, rent or buy this documentary, "La Violencia del Poder"?.
The case of Padre Rogelio Cruz brings to our memory other cases against progressive priests, like Father Sergio Figueredo, during the first twelve years of the corrupt and repressive government of Joaquin Balaguer.

Re: Sonny, you are not old enough

Hillbilly said:

Nor are you smart enough. I did not "justify" anything. It happened, and it has happened in every government.

People have been killed because someone did not like how the exchange market was going. Any one remember the big, fat guy named Mendez that was found in a cane field? No justification.

Grow up sonny; either you have the "testicular fortitude" cited by one of the leading economists, or you don't.

Balaguer did. EOS.

HB

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ignorance

It is sad to see a country go downhill due to lack of knowledge of it's people, it's the same thing over and over.
Everytime a new president is elected in D.R. he thinks (the president) that he was put there to obtain wealth, or to do whatever the hell he wants. ( though this happens is must latin country, it's more common in d.r. due to the fact that must people are uneducated by choice.

Balaguer was " un pichon de dictador " and still people dare say that he was the greatest president ever elected in D.R.

And now look at this guy he gets elected and the minute he grabed the mic. he started running his mouth as if he was talking to a bunch of kids. When I saw that I said ( you got to be f.....g kidding me ) .

How much more are we going to sit back and let this people do whatever they want ?

Balaguer

Well, Balaguer was the only option at the time. The gringos did not like Bosch and selected Balaguer who learned from Trujillo
(he once was vice president during the Trujillo era). The thing is that dominicans sometimes need somebody to remind us of Trujillo. Even today many people say -what we need is Trujillo-
and Balaguer did that with the USA approval. He did the same thing: eliminated oposition, trusted nobody and change the military liders very often. Dictator? nah, he fixed elections and sometimes the oposition did not participate. Can you believe that I went to jail for been in the wrong place at the wrong time and I was accused of diseminating comunist propaganda and conspiring against the government? well I was arrested because there was a student protest two blocks away from where I was, walking from high school. Good thing that I had a coronel uncle and he knew those bastards were lying. Anyways I prefer to see Balaguer in power again than any other from the PRD. His Baldness(borrowed from Xanadu') think he's a comedian and he is certainly because everybody laugh every time he says the most ridiculous things. IN OTHER WORDS, ALAGUER WAS BAD BUT A LOT BETTER THAN THE REST OF THEM with the exception of Profesor Juan Bosch.

let?s face it this guy was a master brain , he manage to lead the country for almost 30 years and even after his death he?s one of the most loved public person ever.. I have to admit that I liked him