What to say to that . . . . . .
Porfio_Rubirosa I am not a cummunist, Casto supporter or any of those other things you claim, I can't see how those accusations can aid this debate. I do feel that economys are dependent on oil and gas and that the effect of the strike had a dramatic effect on the economy of the country.
I said it before, and I'll say it again, the question in my mind is why did the business class strike in the first place? Before the economic contraction? Pointing to the economy after a coup attempt and a major stike is not clear cut, and I saw contradictions that I felt I had to point out.
That the business class is responsible for the economic contraction because it dared oppose Chavez
The article you pointed me too, said this, are you now saying your own evidence is inaccurate?
The issues I keep bringing up, that seem to be ignored is the land reform issue, can you talk about this? I mean I don't want a who did what on an economic collapse till I here about the land reform actions he has pushed though, any discussion with out it would be ignoring a major issue.
I'll try to respond to your points, but please remmeber to talk about the land reform issue (in detail if possible).
Lee, I have no horse in this race, but you apparently do (how do you know so much about "land reform" and "squatters rights", anyway?). The difference between you and me is that I'll be up front about that, while you choose to hide in the shadows and, when you do come forward, misrepresent yourself - almost as if you were a communist. Hmmm.
Q > How do I know about land reform?
A > I heard it, it is hard to ignore, how can you claim that there is so much information out there on what is happening in Venezuela, and then be supprised about . . . . . ok, I claimed ignorant, but I did hear some tidbits that land reform was a major issue, from what you have showed me, I still believe it is a major issue, and strangely enough I have found no articles on that action of Chaves at all, and you seem to have skirted the issue also, maybe I need to do a Yahoo search.
Q > How do I know so much about Squaters rights?
A > If you own land, you'd be a fool not to know.
Lee, I pointedly asked you to get to your point, which you have still not done. I want to hear all about how class upheaval, massive economic contractions and restrictions on foreign investment are good for a country. Workers of the world, unite, and all that. If you would just come out of the shadows, we could have a fair debate.
You assume I have a point other than trying to learn about the situation, in trying to seperate the chaff from the wheat it is important to understand what initiated the class conflict (before the coup and the strike). Are you saying that policies on currency exchange, prohibitions on foreign investment happened before the initial stike? YOur articles did not seem to indicate that.
As far as
seizures of private property without due process and
the collapse of the civil dispute resolution system arn't these related to land reform where people who owned the land lose it to the poor who squatted the land? and the fact that they can no longer get legal redress it the primary point about the civil dispute resolution system?
I hope I addressed most of your comments.
-Lee