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Is filming porn in the dominican legal? I know that people have done it there, but am uncertain about the legality of such...
 

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Thanks, but...

I read through the thread that you referenced (and that was tough, btw), however my situation differs in that I do shoot hard core porn rather than soft core stills. Perhaps Fabio can comment relative to the legality of this activity, and to any other related laws (ie, obscenity) which may come into play.
 

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Expect a lot of interest.... in this thread. Are you going to be recruiting local talent for the film? I reckon you'll get a lot of male volunteers from amongst the old hand DR1ers. In fact, some of them could probably give good directoral [sic?] advice and keep an eye peeled for the local gendarmes at the same time.

Best, P
 

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You Can Read the Part About Informed Consent

Premier said:
I read through the thread that you referenced (and that was tough, btw), however my situation differs in that I do shoot hard core porn rather than soft core stills. Perhaps Fabio can comment relative to the legality of this activity, and to any other related laws (ie, obscenity) which may come into play.

Hard or soft core, I'd be very worried about getting the right mix of youthful looking ( for the audience) but actually LEGAL actresses since the ID is atrocious and minors can look pretty much like adults.

And the money lure will throw any resistance out the window. Best of luck with actual doucmented evidence of legal age for the USC.

BTW Luscious Latinas #9 (by Devils Angel Films I believe) is actually shot in Boca Chica and in a Cabana in SD. Maybe they can tell you as producers how well the documentation went.

I only saw the DVD to see if I recognized anyone and /or the hotels. Yes to both, quite interesting as a result. Normally I wouldn't watch such stuff.(*)








(*) More than 200 times .
 

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Pasha, Rick and Fabio

Pasha: Thanks for your input. Yeah, I'll brace myself for the likely rush of DR1 volunteers. However, that's putting the cart way ahead of the horse at this point, as I'm just in the fact finding stage now....

Rick: Yes, and there have been others who have produced (filmed) porn in the DR as well. As they were not all Europeans, I'm assuming that the ID req'mts were satisfactorily met. In other words, some form of gov'mnt issued ID was submitted. Obviously, fake ID's are a concern, particularly if the producer is prosecuted, and not the girl. On the US side, producers are typically not held liable, provided the ID appears legitimate - as in the highly publicized Traci Lords case.

Fabio: Thanks for the clarification. Any chance of being prosecuted under some other statute (ie morality)? Any comments re the above?
 

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Premier said:

Rick: Yes, and there have been others who have produced (filmed) porn in the DR as well. As they were not all Europeans, I'm assuming that the ID req'mts were satisfactorily met. In other words, some form of gov'mnt issued ID was submitted. Obviously, fake ID's are a concern, particularly if the producer is prosecuted, and not the girl. On the US side, producers are typically not held liable, provided the ID appears legitimate - as in the highly publicized Traci Lords case.

Remember they will at best have one piece and at worst that one piece will look OK (or perfect) and will be phoney as a $3 bill. Nobody will have 2 pieces (like a passport) who will do this, IMHO.

For totally prurient interest, what's the titles of other flims/DVD's? It is fun to see locations or people you recognize. (Ones with locals not Europeans as you say, that is).
 

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Rick, 2 forms of ID are not required per USC, title 18, sec 2257. The origins of this 2 ID req'mnt, have actually come from the content buyers, who are just trying to double cover their asses. If this was an actual req'mnt, it would be difficult to find ID compliant girls even in the US, not to mention abroad.

As for the dominican ID. As long as it's gov'mnt issued and not bought somewhere, it should be usable. Provided that no obvious tampering/duplication has occurred. I would
imagine that most of the Haitians in the DR
would have passports on them...

You might want to check out dexterhorn.com. Think that he did something in BC...
 

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Premier said:


As for the dominican ID. As long as it's gov'mnt issued and not bought somewhere, it should be usable. Provided that no obvious tampering/duplication has occurred. I would
imagine that most of the Haitians in the DR
would have passports on them...

There is a huge industry in the DR in manufacturing fake ID's. You can even go to a Gov. Office and pay a guy to make you a "Legal" fake ID.

Most of the Haitians in the DR are in the country illeagally. They will not have any ID. If they do it is most probobly fake.
 

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Dude, pay no attention to these yahoos here. Just go to a lawyer, whip up a contract in Spanish, and start taking photos. I have been taking photos for over a week now, and they lOVE it. Lots of them are throwing in free "extras" if I give them a print copy also. ;)

I am photocopying the ID, making them sign a waiver, and I also videotape them showing the ID so they cannot claim they did not show it to me.

I have been offering them $50 a photo session. Probably far too much but my company is paying me plenty to do this. Not one girls has said no. I just drive around on the streets looking for them as well. When I see a good looking girl, I slam on the breaks and call her over. They love the idea!!!

What a county!!!
 

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Be sure to e-mail any questions you have to him quickly, or be prepared to wait 30 years for the answer. Dominican prisons don't have internet access.

What a maroon!
 

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Exactly What I Said

PepeDr said:


I am photocopying the ID, making them sign a waiver, and I also videotape them showing the ID so they cannot claim they did not show it to me.

I have been offering them $50 a photo session. Probably far too much but my company is paying me plenty to do this. Not one girls has said no.

1. I hope the videotape has them also agreeing with what the end product is being used for to support the counterfeit ID.

2. As I was pointing out to the original poster ( who has manners unlike yourself) the money is the total influence. RD$1,600 (which is what you are paying) is full service, massage parlor prostitute wage and at least triple street girl pay for having sex with tourists, so of course they will cooperate even if they were not inclined in that regard with P4P with tourists.

It doesn't mean you have consent.

Anyway to Premier, be cautious (be exceptionally discreet and don't drive around waving $50 at strangers) - it isn't the US, and police, government stooges, and angry relatives are a real risk. To PepeDr, ignore this part, I hope, be really visible and hopefuly meet a few.
 

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What Some People Here Didn't Want to Hear Was ...

In the US, asking "Is it legal?" is the same as "Will I get in trouble if I do this?" Here, they are absolutely two distinct questions with two distinct - and different - answers.

I would say that if you want to do such a thing you just have to set up your business like, and think like, a Dominican would. I don't doubt that what you propose may be legal. Although I know the import of XXX videos, most sex toys, is illegal at customs. Even the showing of MTV has been banned frequently by the government at times.

So, come down discretely, set up your equipment at some nice location, and grab the girls over a day or two, or a weekend, and then pack up everything and get to the other side of the island as fast as you can. There will be no way for angry relatives, girls who've changed their mind, or police who want a piece of your action, etc. to find you. Legal, or not.

Then the only problem you're left with is finding a way to get the product out of the country in some form. I'd digitize it and send it out over a fast internet connection somewhere rather than risk it being found in luggage on the way out.

Tom (aka XR)
 

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Re: What Some People Here Didn't Want to Hear Was ...

XanaduRanch said:
In the US, asking "Is it legal?" is the same as "Will I get in trouble if I do this?" Here, they are absolutely two distinct questions with two distinct - and different - answers.

Tom (aka XR)


this should be the quote of the month or something.....
 

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Greetings everyone!

First off, please be advised that I'm not a newbie to the porn industry or to 3rd world countries for that matter - including the DR. While I've never filmed there, I have visited twice before purely for pleasure. For the record, I never paid $50USD for anything while there!

Pepedr, Be careful. A model release and an ID may be your "stay out of jail card" in the US, but It's virtually meaningless in the DR or elsewhere. While you may consider the advice given by these so called "yahoos" useless, they live there and know a hellova lot more about the DR than you and me. While I understand your frustration in not getting answers that are black and white. You need to understand where you are, and the resultant amount of grey area that exists there. Lastly, re-evaluate paying the girls $50.00. You are inflating the prices for people like me and the locals who know what the going price point is. Be a hero and save the company you work for some money, or pocket it yourself if you prefer, but don't pay the girls that much. Happy trails...

Tom and Rick, Many thanks for your time and input. Sound advice and it confirms what I suspected anyway. Hope to be chatting with both of you in the future.

Richard (aka, Premier)
 
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