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Expatriation from the Dom. Repub.
What on earth is this supposed to mean? He wants to renounce it (give it up permanently) or get dual in the US?
Is he a legal citizen of the US? if not this is a trifle premature since he winds up with no citizenship at all. If the laws of the DR allow it he can do that at a DR consulate in the USA.
What point is there to give it up at all? USA allows dual citizenship.
And he is talking about renouncing it not expatriating it.
What point is there to give it up at all? USA allows dual citizenship.
And he is talking about renouncing it not expatriating it.
cobraboy said:
Since the New Constitution of 1994, the DR acknowledges dual and multiple citizenships. Sometimes I wonder how the question of allegiance can be worked out, such as when you have to lean toward one country's interest versus the other, especially when you are in a position of political power, like our President and Foreign Minister, or in the US, where the Homeland Security Secretary, Michael Chertoff, and many other high ranking government officials hold dual Israeli-US citizenship?
In a recent thread someone brought up the incident where Hipolito claimed to be a US citizen and it was hastily denied and brushed under the carpet by his advisers. The reason given was that according to the DR constitution this would exclude someone from eligibility for serving as President. Is this indeed the case?
cobraboy said:
Yes, the DR allows dual citizenship, as well as the US. But the US won't allow you to renounce unless you go through a lot of hassle. The process in terms of DR residency is the same and details can be found by searching the board. Thereafter, you have to go through additional application process to be accepted as a DR citizen and get a passport of course. It is not hard, it just takes time. There is a citizenship test on the DR side.
Mirador said:
Incorrect.
The only two political posts in the DR that you CANNOT hold as a dual citizen are President and Vice President.
They probably have permanent residency but they are not citizens.
Scandall
NyliYoshi said:What's the difference between renouncing and expatriating?
And I was only asking here because the embassy is closed until Monday..
Renouncing is to give up your citizenship voluntarily, whether obtained by birth in your home country or by naturalization.
Expatriating is a wrong term you made up. Expatriates are people who have moved from their home country to settle in another. There are a lot of American expatriates in the DR for example.
So back to your "friend" - is he a US citizen? And why would he renounce his DR citizenship? What reason, e.g.
Scandall said:
They were US citizens much before they even thought about the possibility of holding their current positions. Carlos Morales Troncoso held the office of Vice President, and I know for sure he was a US citizen when he ran Central Romana for the late Charles Bludhorn (Golf & Western).
Okay, so how would my friend renounce his citizenship from the DR?
The renouncing reason is because he now lives in the U.S. and would not like to be subject to DR government jurisdiction any longer as a DR citizen.
And regardless of whether or not he would be subject to DR government jurisdiction, what is the renouncing process? Does he just mail a letter to the president and be done with it?
The renouncing reason is because he now lives in the U.S. and would not like to be subject to DR government jurisdiction any longer as a DR citizen.
And regardless of whether or not he would be subject to DR government jurisdiction, what is the renouncing process? Does he just mail a letter to the president and be done with it?
If they even allow it the normal route is to go to the DR consulate (in NYC) and fill out the forms and go through the process. Mailing a letter to the president, are you serious?
He has to be a US citizen NOT just a landed immigrant to do this you know. Otherwise he would have no citizenship anywhere.
He has to be a US citizen NOT just a landed immigrant to do this you know. Otherwise he would have no citizenship anywhere.
NyliYoshi said:
DR jurisdiction?
As long he is outside the DR he is not under the DR juridiction.
When I became a Naturalized US citizen, one of the stipulation back then was that during the interview for naturalization I had to renounce my Dominican Citizenship to gain the American. Back then the DR did not acknowledge dual citizenship. But now with the Dominican dual citizenship law, I am considered Dominican because I was borned there, regardless whether I renounced it when I first became a US Citizen.
The only way he can avoid the hassle that comes with renovating a passport or national ID in the DR, is to become a US citizen and to travel with a US passport.
Dual citizenship
My Dominican wife just became a US citizen last week. She is of course, still a Dominican citizen. Only problem is, if she goes to Santo Domingo on her US passport, she will probably have to pay for a visitor's visa. On the other hand, if she uses her Dominican passport, she can go there, but not return on it as they took her residency (green) card. Win some, lose some.
My Dominican wife just became a US citizen last week. She is of course, still a Dominican citizen. Only problem is, if she goes to Santo Domingo on her US passport, she will probably have to pay for a visitor's visa. On the other hand, if she uses her Dominican passport, she can go there, but not return on it as they took her residency (green) card. Win some, lose some.
