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Thread: Treatment of African Americans in the DR

  1. #11
    Caonabo
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    Default GREEN GO! = GRINGO

    GRINGO = To Green go!

    When the American Army occupied Mexico, people used to yell to the soldars "Green Go, go home!"

    This is where the Green Go comes from, it doesn't have to do nothing with the Sking Color, but the UNIFORM COLOR!

  2. #12
    Natasha
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    Default Re: Treatment of African Americans in the DR

    Sia,

    You probably don't have to worry much about this. Dominicans for the most part, think of Americans as blonde/blue eyes. Remember, this was the model we saw on TV and movies. This is changing though. Most likely, you'll be mistaken for a Dominican :-)

    Regards, Natasha

  3. #13
    T Santos
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    Default Re: GREEN GO! = GRINGO

    I have heard the same thing while traveling through Guatemala,I think you are right.

    T.S

  4. #14
    scaramooch
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    Default DAGO-DAGO

    If the word "gringo" derrived from the mexican discribing an American, then does anybody know where the word "DAGO" came from discribing an Italian??

  5. #15
    Keith
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    Default Re: Get your story straight about the word GRINGO

    Jerry,

    In one sense you are correct -- it is sometimes said with vehemence or nestiness in Mexico, but rarely so in the DR. Many Dominicans in fact are hesitant to even use the term, prefering instead "norteamericano" (North American).

    I lived in the DR for four years (up until last month) and my wife is Dominican. For a long time after moving there when people would ask me where I was from, I would make fun of my accent by smiling and saying "claro, no hay duda que soy gringo." Some laughed heartily, but I noted that others were a bit uncomfortable about the joke. At one point a kind Dominican lady just a bit older than I said softly, "Don Keith, 'gringo' is an ugly, crude word that people here with any education would never use, and certainly not for someone as Dominican in his heart as you. Please use 'norteamericano' if you feel you have to classify yourself at all."

    I never used "gringo" again! Regards, Keith

  6. #16
    Keith
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    Default Re: unspoiled???

    Toby,

    "unspoiled by pollution"??? You must not have wandered at all out of the resort areas. Take a hard look at the Ozama River in Santo Domingo, or the rivers surrounding Santiago or the rivers near any of the mining firms. Sit in afternoon rush hour traffic in Santo Domingo with your windows down and then tell me that there's no threat of air pollution. Check the "beaches" along SD's Malecon covered with litter, or for that matter, the trash-lined streets of the major cities. The DR is developing some serious pollution issues it must address soon.

    "unspoiled by...overdevelopment"??? I'm not so sure. There are no real zoning laws in the DR, and the few on the books are not enforced. Anyone living in SD can attest that some parts of town are growing out of control. But it's not just limited to SD. As someone who first visited Puerto Plata-Sosua and Bayahibe in the mid-1980s, I think those two areas have been overbuilt. They've lost much of their beauty and charm and development has outstripped the local environment's ability to deal with the human concentrations there. Respectfully, Keith

  7. #17
    Keith
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    Default Re: You're Overstating your case

    Toby,

    "The underclass is predominantly non-white while the newspapers, TV, professional and leadership positions are almost exclusively white."???

    You're overstating it.

    While I would agree that tends to be true for the business sector in the DR, I strongly disagree about the other categories you list. I have met many of the print journalists in the DR, and a large number of them would not be considered white nor claim to be. Professionals? I have met many and I also taught many, and my experience is that there is a pretty representative spread of the Dominican population in most of the professions [possible exceptions: high-priced medical specialities and high-powered corporate lawyers, although I can think of at least one in the latter category who is among the DR's best known and he is not white by any stretch of the imagination]. Leadership positions "almost exclusively white"???? Have you taken a good hard look at the President's picture lately? [http://www.presidencia.gov.do/perfil.htm] Or that of the president of the Dominican Senate? Or for that matter, a huge portion of the Congress? Or the Mayor of Santo Domingo?

    I'm sorry, but while I can agree with many of your other statements, on these you're off-base.

    And comparing the DR to apartheid-era South Africa is flat-out nonsense. Regards, Keith

  8. #18
    CES
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    Default Re: You're Overstating your case

    Keith, you are 100% correct in your view that the DR has no connection to apartheid. I would say the idea that apartheid exists in the DR is one of more far fetched statements that has been posted here in a long time. . .

    Regards . . . CES

  9. #19
    CES
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    Default Re: unspoiled???

    Hi Keith,

    I first visited the DR in 1966 and what a difference in the way the country is built up now. Some of things you see now are just a total affront to any thing connected to common sense. . .

    Regards . . . CES

  10. #20
    Natasha
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    Default Welcome back!!!!

    Hi Keith,

    Just like CES, I agree with you 100%. I also wanted to welcome you back to the board. Where have you been? You were missed by me and I am sure by many others. Welcome back!!!!

    Regards, Natasha

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