"Adult" vacation biz warning.

What is the matter with America? Sex for pay is the same as marriage without a property agreement! Whether you are inclined, or not, there is really no victim. In a property agreement there is a chance that someone could be cheated. Prostitution in the US is legal as long as you film it. Then it is Art (porn) Marijauna is illegal, but cigarettes are not. I know I am gonna lose the cigarette smokers on this one. But the pot heads just like the fact that sex, cake, and jokes are better when they have a puff! They are not addicted to a worthless product that kills them while they stink. Booze is another matter, but I am having a drink right now, so I can't comment!

J D Sauser said:

The reason I am posting this is, that not too many months ago, last year, a new poster posted on the "Employment" Forum about an extraordinary business opportunity.
When I inquired, I was offered to run such an operation here. Basically picking up Johns and the girl(s), driving them to the "villa" and back to the airport and barrio respectively, for a fixed "commission" per deal. I obviously declined siting, besides moral considerations, the risks for such a person, especially being a foreigner, to be randomly charged of "pimping" and pressured to no good end by the police, fiscals judges and competing local pimps and hoodlum and that, against the proponent's re-assurances I doubted that these operations would stay under the radar of US law very long. Moral issues set aside, I would not have been willing to take risks here and also not being able to enter the US without been greeted by the police. ... J-D.

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Is that post still there, JD? Could you give a link to warn people off?

Thanks JD. As moderator of the Employment Forum, I decided to delete the post linked above and closed the poster's account. However, I'm copying the contents of the post in the quote box below for information purposes; it contains no contact details.

It serves to inform job seekers replying to seemingly innocuous posts that some work offers may end up being more than they bargained for.

Hiring Customer Service Rep. in Puerto Plata -- Work from Home
We are starting a new business venture in Puerto Plata in 1-2 months. I'm looking for someone who's available and reliable to work for us in customer service.

Although most of the work will involve reading emails or talking on the phone with us... eventually, there will be a little driving where you go and pickup our clients from the PoP airport.

This is part time. It will not pay very large amounts, but when we start having a lot more clients it will pay better.

Please send me a private message with your email and contact details if you are interested.

MUST SPEAK fluent Spanish and good English. Someone who is extremely familiar with the area is a good plus.

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sex clubs

i went to one in santiago two years ago. membership required, run by an u.s. guy. was a blackbeards in the city. more upscale. probably higher priced nice concept like a dom. playboy club. as hard as it is here i found out after so many months being open that they had no electric bill(stealing)electric, and when the co. came by and disconect them - went to candle power for lights. breezes blowing beautiful local furniture polyester curtains ...fire.... that was a major blow... never re opened after that. all i can say is that sex is big biz all over the world... this is a destination for that. and in the u.s. they arrested a few teenage girls for sexting. sending pics via cell phone of their unmentionables...those kids are in trouble...think of the legal bills.

Thank you both JD & Chiri. That post could easily be mistaken for call centre work or somesuch, particularly by 'eager' applicants, of which we get quite a few posting here. And particularly by those new to the country who don't have JD's ability to spot the inherent risks.

A shame someone had to misuse the Employment Forum, which is, of itself a great idea. Maybe worth an addition/disclaimer to Chris's posting guidelines? It actually looks as if the poster of the 'job' had already broken guidelines because JD reported that it was 'commission'.
http://www.dr1.com/forums/employment/47756-guidelines-using-forum.html

This stuff confuses me. Exactly what is legal and isn't legal, what is ignored and what is pulled up. I see nothing wrong with sextours at all, it is a safer package and controlled with circumstances for those who overstep the mark, on both sides of the bed.
Is this just an American thing, if so, nuff said!!

JD's post really is very clear. He itemises 1) the risks for a foreigner living here in DR of getting involved working for such an organisation & 2) the felony status in the US.

Yes, I see that. My comment was not about the post. It was a general comment on the plight of state laws and contradictions within.

Hi, yes this I don't understand. OK, I'm Dominican. But I read the internet a lot. Looks like there are only laws against what that guy did, as far as organizing trips if you are in New York or maybe Hawaii. I got that idea off of ProCon.org in the prostitution law, state-by-state info. Now also prostitution is legal in the US, in the two states, Nevada and Rode Island. So how can there be a law against promoting it? OK, now here is what I don't understand. In US cities where gambling is illegal, you still see billboards for people to go to other cities where gambling is legal and to go on trips to where gambling is legal. Why is that guy getting arrested in New York? Why can't he put up bill boards for people to take trips to Nevada, Rode Island and the Dominican Republic?

And did the trial happen? I can't find anything about the results of the case in New York last month.

Rhode Island?

FrankysFriends said:

Hi, yes this I don't understand. OK, I'm Dominican. But I read the internet a lot. Looks like there are only laws against what that guy did, as far as organizing trips if you are in New York or maybe Hawaii. I got that idea off of ProCon.org in the prostitution law, state-by-state info. Now also prostitution is legal in the US, in the two states, Nevada and Rode Island. So how can there be a law against promoting it? OK, now here is what I don't understand. In US cities where gambling is illegal, you still see billboards for people to go to other cities where gambling is legal and to go on trips to where gambling is legal. Why is that guy getting arrested in New York? Why can't he put up bill boards for people to take trips to Nevada, Rode Island and the Dominican Republic?

And did the trial happen? I can't find anything about the results of the case in New York last month.

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While you are right that prostitution is legal in Nevada, it was only simply NOT illegal in Rhode Island (my still legal residence). This was simply a loophole in the law - that they just never bothered to close, but will now, as you can see by Googling. There was a great fight against gambling in Rhode Island-- and so I just wanted to clear that up --- Don't think for a minute that little Rhody is a some sort of sexually liberal little place -- no- very New England,despite the history of mobs and corruption. (sorry - just an aside for local info-- since there are lots of Dominicans living in Providence -- lest they decide to set up shop.......

US Federal Code

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This is from the US Department of Justice---

18 U.S.C. ?? 2421-2423 also cover interstate and international sex trafficking, but generally require that actual travel across a state or international boundary or other interstate activity has taken place. Some of the key provisions that hold the traffickers accountable are: 18 U.S.C. ? 2421, which prohibits transporting a person across state or international boundaries for the purposes of prostitution or other unlawful sexual activity and carries a 10 year maximum sentence; 18 U.S.C. ? 2422(a), which prohibits enticing or coercing a person to travel across a state or international boundary in order to engage in prostitution or other unlawful sexual activity and carries a 20 year maximum sentence; 18 U.S.C. ? 2422(b), which prohibits using the mail or other interstate communications such as the telephone or the Internet to entice or coerce a person under 18 to engage in prostitution or other unlawful sexual activity and carries a 5 year minimum sentence and a 30 year maximum sentence; and 18 U.S.C. ? 2423(a), which prohibits transporting a person under 18 across state or international boundaries for the purposes of prostitution or other unlawful sexual activity and carries a 5 year minimum, 30 year maximum penalty.

Those who profit from victimizing children and adults in the sex trade are only one half of the problem. The other half are those who patronize this exploitive industry. Federal statutes hold those who travel to do so, and those who benefit from arranging that travel, accountable. For example, 18 U.S.C. ? 2423(b) prohibits traveling across state lines or into the United States for the purpose of engaging in any illicit sexual conduct (which includes any commercial sex act with a person under 18) and carries a 30 year maximum sentence, while 18 U.S.C. ? 2423(c) prohibits an American citizen or national engaging in illicit sexual conduct outside the United States and carries a 30 year maximum sentence. 18 U.S.C. ? 2423(c) does not require that the citizen have traveled outside the country with the purpose of engaging in illicit sexual conduct in a foreign country. 18 U.S.C. ? 2423(d) prohibits arranging or facilitating, for financial gain, another person's travel to engage in illicit sexual conduct and carries a 30 year maximum sentence.