I can confirm something along the lines of what the OP stated had happened. We spoke to the family tonight via Skype and I asked briefly if they had heard of anything like this that happened last week. They confirmed something as described had happened to a 3 year old child, and was found without the heart. I didn't want to go into detail once I'd had it confirmed, as it was obvious from the reaction before I'd even finished my question that they knew what I was going to say so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I guess us doubters can owe the OP a certain level of apology, your maid wasn't tripping out after all.
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Children are being murdered here for their organs.....
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I don't doubt what was heard. I doubt that the reporting was very good, and they simply sensationalized a murder.
My son is 4 years old... and I couldn't imagine being the parents of these poor kids... hopefully they catch the people and torture them in the DR and not protect them like they seem to in Canada...
This really makes me mad... just the thought of anyone doing anything to a child... if anyone is from Ontario than they've heard about the Tori murder - 8 year old girl picked up outside of her school, raped and killed... I work down the street from her school and not a day goes by that I think about her...
I wish I never read this thread
i call BS, you can find thousands of people who'd swear they've been abducted by aliens. show me solid believable report or get out.
The entire problem is that it IS under-reported. It is such a despicable act that I think people just don't want to go there. I did do more research and found out that after the quake organ trafficking was (and probably still is) a problem in Haiti, and started to become a possibility in Santiago with the ingress of lots of Haitian kids. As well, it is a problem in Colombia. (people go to Colombia to have organ transplants) It only makes sense that it does happen here, in a poor country with little education, where kids go neglected and are actually sometimes sold to people by their parents for various purposes.
As well, my fiancee and her brother are both quite intelligent Dominicans and have heard of this happening before. It is NOT a large scale enterprise here like in Colombia and India so I'm sure there is next to nothing allocated to investigate and combat it.
When people start to be convinced that the bad guys do have the technology to do this here and demand action, that can only help to eradicate this practice.
As well, my fiancee and her brother are both quite intelligent Dominicans and have heard of this happening before. It is NOT a large scale enterprise here like in Colombia and India so I'm sure there is next to nothing allocated to investigate and combat it.
When people start to be convinced that the bad guys do have the technology to do this here and demand action, that can only help to eradicate this practice.
Oh I thought the maid had over sensationalized the story, but when I asked I didn't get the sentence out before they were nodding knowing what I was asking so something happened. I still don't think this was for organ havesting, I think they would have speculated that that is what it could have been because the heart was missing. If this happened in the UK they would put it down to some African voodoo ceremony type thing where the child was sacrificed, which isn't unusual by some sectors of our society. There have been a few kids sacrificed over more recent years that I can remember.
I think organ harvesting in the streets of SD is still far from what is going on.
you folks go on believeing in this hocus pocus, if it puts your mind at ease. i do not need to boost my faith in humans thinking they'd only rip apart one another for profit: i KNOW there are plenty who'd kill and mutiliate just for fun.
thre were no reports on children's death lately apart from few drownings. and no, the police would not state drowning to hush hush actual butchering. whoever finds a body here firts takes pictures and THEN calls the police. by the time the laughable dominican forensics arrive the photo of the dead body has already circulated the neighbourhood and got posted on detras de rumor. when i worked in an office with a bunch of dominicans i got gruesome mails like that all the time.
and organ trafficing in haiti? you must be kidding me. with malnutrishment, AIDS, cholera, malaria, dengue, leptospirosis, tuberculosis, leprosy and god know what else they have there no haitian organ could be of value to any body snatcher out there. who'd risk a potentially fatal disease by buying organs from haiti?
i like to see people thinking for themselves, it is sad to hear that folks can still be fed with those legends and they will take them in like little kids.
thre were no reports on children's death lately apart from few drownings. and no, the police would not state drowning to hush hush actual butchering. whoever finds a body here firts takes pictures and THEN calls the police. by the time the laughable dominican forensics arrive the photo of the dead body has already circulated the neighbourhood and got posted on detras de rumor. when i worked in an office with a bunch of dominicans i got gruesome mails like that all the time.
and organ trafficing in haiti? you must be kidding me. with malnutrishment, AIDS, cholera, malaria, dengue, leptospirosis, tuberculosis, leprosy and god know what else they have there no haitian organ could be of value to any body snatcher out there. who'd risk a potentially fatal disease by buying organs from haiti?
i like to see people thinking for themselves, it is sad to hear that folks can still be fed with those legends and they will take them in like little kids.
I think Some of the posters should take off their rose colored glasses......dv8, Chip...
If it's happening in Haiti.....is there a chance it could happen here??....yuh think......
Haiti PM: Traffickers targeting Haiti's children, human organs ? Amanpour - CNN.com Blogs
Traffickers targeting Haiti's children, human organs, PM says - CNN
Haitian PM: Human Organs Are Being Trafficked In Aftermath Of Quake (VIDEO)
AlisonWeir.org - Journal - Organ trafficking in*Haiti?
B in Santiago
If it's happening in Haiti.....is there a chance it could happen here??....yuh think......
Haiti PM: Traffickers targeting Haiti's children, human organs ? Amanpour - CNN.com Blogs
Traffickers targeting Haiti's children, human organs, PM says - CNN
Haitian PM: Human Organs Are Being Trafficked In Aftermath Of Quake (VIDEO)
AlisonWeir.org - Journal - Organ trafficking in*Haiti?
B in Santiago
You sure you are not getting pulled under your hypocritical views here, you need photos of this to prove it happened? There is all kinds of reasons this was covered up sharpish, one being that the child was in some way connected and then pulled it out of respect, or just because they were old to. Who knows. Seems like an entirely plausible thing for a child to be a target to get to a family, I hope I'm wrong but it wouldn't surprise me at all.
all links are the exact copy of an article citing the same unconfirmed idea by a haitian minister. i have no doubts there is plenty of childern (and adult) trafficking: they are used as slaves, for prostitution, child pornography and so on. killed, eventually, i suppose. i guess some rich bastard could get as many kids as money can buy, screen them endlessly and throw them away until a suitable organ is found for dying chlild. but for organs specifically? no.
giveadogahome, you are the one wearing rose coloured glasses here. you guys have kids of your own and it is simply too much for you to think someone could target any child, at any time and kill it just to eat its heart with some chianti. you prefer to think that maybe a chosen one is killed and then it's for a reason, for profit, that there is some logical explanation of that fact. there is none. some people need no reason to kill.
giveadogahome, you are the one wearing rose coloured glasses here. you guys have kids of your own and it is simply too much for you to think someone could target any child, at any time and kill it just to eat its heart with some chianti. you prefer to think that maybe a chosen one is killed and then it's for a reason, for profit, that there is some logical explanation of that fact. there is none. some people need no reason to kill.
I did and statements like this
are not quantified. All speculation.
Have you found out what TV channel your housekeeper was watching?
2,500 $ Only
Why would one kill in order to get an organ if a whole child can be had for 2,500$? :ermm:
Buscan mujer vendi? beb? por 100 mil - ElNacional.com.do
donP
Why would one kill in order to get an organ if a whole child can be had for 2,500$? :ermm:
Buscan mujer vendi? beb? por 100 mil - ElNacional.com.do
donP
My housekeeper works Monday, Wednesday and Friday...................
No work Monday because of holiday.................
I am not going to question her anymore because whatever she says..............
she will be labeled a liar. when a few of you state there is NO WAY this could happen,
Your minds are already made up......."not qualified", "speculation".........
So this idiotic fighting comes to an end, at least with me, I am going to agree with you......
This NEVER happened, It could Never happen, imaginations gone rampant...........
and the best of all..............an alien probably did whatever did happen,
I am going to let all of you spend your day going back and forth arguing, NOT ME.....
I had promised myself I will not partake in meaningless rhetoric when minds are closed..........
Have a nice day..........
And dv8, It was Jean-Max Bellerive in the interview with Christian Amanpour, Haitian politician and former Prime Minister of Haiti who was nominated by the Haitian President Ren? Pr?val in 2009. Prime Minister Bellerive resigned on 14 May 2011..
NOT a regular (religious) minister like you make it sound.....
B in Santiago
No work Monday because of holiday.................
I am not going to question her anymore because whatever she says..............
she will be labeled a liar. when a few of you state there is NO WAY this could happen,
Your minds are already made up......."not qualified", "speculation".........
So this idiotic fighting comes to an end, at least with me, I am going to agree with you......
This NEVER happened, It could Never happen, imaginations gone rampant...........
and the best of all..............an alien probably did whatever did happen,
I am going to let all of you spend your day going back and forth arguing, NOT ME.....
I had promised myself I will not partake in meaningless rhetoric when minds are closed..........
Have a nice day..........
And dv8, It was Jean-Max Bellerive in the interview with Christian Amanpour, Haitian politician and former Prime Minister of Haiti who was nominated by the Haitian President Ren? Pr?val in 2009. Prime Minister Bellerive resigned on 14 May 2011..
NOT a regular (religious) minister like you make it sound.....
B in Santiago
Let get some facts straight:
1. Ex PM Jean-Max Bellerive was a Haitian politician who was ousted because of taking bribes from a Dominican politician and is not trustworthy in the least bit.
2. Haitian politicians have made their living the last 200 years blaming foreigners for whatever ails the country. That is why "blan" is a bad word their. 100% of what they say is propaganda.
3. Life is cheap in Haiti and if kids are disappearing it is because they are being stolen or their own parents are selling them or in rare cases being killed as part of a human sacrifice for voodoo. Here is an article by a Haitian regarding that:
Disturbing Revelations of Human Sacrifice
I don't doubt there was on dead child tv but I do doubt that what happened is what the op understands. Dominicans are not hush hush about anything.
1. Ex PM Jean-Max Bellerive was a Haitian politician who was ousted because of taking bribes from a Dominican politician and is not trustworthy in the least bit.
2. Haitian politicians have made their living the last 200 years blaming foreigners for whatever ails the country. That is why "blan" is a bad word their. 100% of what they say is propaganda.
3. Life is cheap in Haiti and if kids are disappearing it is because they are being stolen or their own parents are selling them or in rare cases being killed as part of a human sacrifice for voodoo. Here is an article by a Haitian regarding that:
Disturbing Revelations of Human Sacrifice
I don't doubt there was on dead child tv but I do doubt that what happened is what the op understands. Dominicans are not hush hush about anything.
The ONLY fact here is that YOU and a couple of others will try and fight ABOUT EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN........
WITH ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIT YOUR PERFECT AGENDA........Just because you are closed minded little critters that find fault in whatever isn't perfect by your standards, COUNT ME OUT........
Believe what you want..........I DON'T CARE........
I HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF DR1 FIGHTING..................
B in Santiago
WITH ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIT YOUR PERFECT AGENDA........Just because you are closed minded little critters that find fault in whatever isn't perfect by your standards, COUNT ME OUT........
Believe what you want..........I DON'T CARE........
I HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF DR1 FIGHTING..................
B in Santiago
waytogo, you are taking it a bad way. no one denies here there are many cases of child deaths in DR, be it accidental or murder. we only question an idea of killing a child for organs since transplants are very delicate and difficult surgeries that require more than just a good piece of meat to be stuck into someone's body in place of a faulty one.
as far as the question about versatility of organs: some body parts can indeed be transfered from an adult to a child but due to size the most important organs that would require a donor to be dead (heart and lungs) cannot be used in that way. in terms of the necessity of organs, sadly, what makes it all that difficult is people themselves. i am on a national list of donors in my country and i specified many times both to my parents and miesposo that i wish to give all my suitable organs for transplants, if they can be salvaged. many adults make this decision, may agree to have the organs of the loved ones used for a good cause. but in case of children this is still quite rare. parents of a child dying in a hospital rarely contact the doctors and agree to have organs harvested.
there would be no reason for this discussion is everyone agreed to be a donor.
as far as the question about versatility of organs: some body parts can indeed be transfered from an adult to a child but due to size the most important organs that would require a donor to be dead (heart and lungs) cannot be used in that way. in terms of the necessity of organs, sadly, what makes it all that difficult is people themselves. i am on a national list of donors in my country and i specified many times both to my parents and miesposo that i wish to give all my suitable organs for transplants, if they can be salvaged. many adults make this decision, may agree to have the organs of the loved ones used for a good cause. but in case of children this is still quite rare. parents of a child dying in a hospital rarely contact the doctors and agree to have organs harvested.
there would be no reason for this discussion is everyone agreed to be a donor.
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