Concern: New Schools/Worse Results

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Really, the level of learning in public schools is worse than I had thought. As most of you know, I have a community center in Sosua with educational programming. We hold sessions for homework help. About 21 kids show up for each session, but typically, most come without any homework.

First, I created a small library of children's books in Spanish....books of all levels. Any child arriving without homework was to read. When they were finished, they were to color a picture from the story. This is what happened. A student would take a book and within a minute, say he was finished. All he/she did was look at pictures.

So, I changed the assignment and told them to read a book, then write a short summary of the story. As mentioned in a comment above, they just copied the text of one page.

Finally, I changed the assignment completely. Each session, the kids were presented with a topic to write about for 30 minutes. For example, "If you were president of this country, what changes would you make and why?"

The kids loved doing this, BUT they had no idea how to write. There were no spaces between words on some papers. There were no paragraphs. They didn't know what an indent was. Sentences did not begin with capital letters. But that didn't matter, as they did not know how to write a complete sentence!

It then occurred to me that I needed to start from the very beginning with these kids who range in age from 6 - 13. I need to teach them how to write just one sentence.....Then 5 sentences.....Then put those sentences into a paragraph.

These are skills typically taught by first or second grade, elsewhere.

Math skills are not great, but seem better than language and reading.

Interestingly, the homework assignments require finding information on the Internet. (or a library, but of course, there are no libraries here.....) We have laptops and Internet so that is no problem. Often, though, I wonder about all the other kids in the class who don't have computer and Internet access. Do they fail?

~ Lindsey
 

malko

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Never ceases to amaze me..........

A sobrina of mine, 25 years old, attemds umiversity 1 day a week (??), training to be a teacher, specialises in geography. We were talking about something or other, and she argued that it was the earth that turned around the sun.........

Another sobrina, 13 or 14 years old. Attends private school in POP ( the one near the fire station on the malecon ). She can hardly read or write, but her grades are good (???????).

A 10 year old sobrino ( I think), here in the campo, now goes to big school in main village ( as opposed to small school in our campo ). Asked him how he adapted to the longer school days......he said "well instead of playing at home, I now get to play with my friends at school " !!!!!!!!

Also, please put ure hands up of u have seen someone in the campo, reading a book....... parents are in no position to help kids with ANY school related stuff.

Another sobrino was put through university by my wife. Graduated in god-knows-what, never has had a real job. He reads prescriptions to my MIL. I swear he silently mouths the words before saying them out loud.

A 40 year old neighbour reads the bible to one of my BIL ( who happens to be the only one who can really read, but has gone blind ), she hesitates every 2nd word.

I dont really speak spanish ( well I do, but only what I have acquired in everyday life here ). People ask me to read them articles from news papers..............
People do NOT believe me when they give me something to read, and I scan through it and put it down ( ie user manual, kids homework, article.....).
NOBODY can read that fast, they say....... and this is in spanish.

When the gvt says only half a million people cannot read, first I feel like poking my eyes out, then I fell like poking theirs out, then I wonder what standards they use..........

But the real problem in the dr school system is the lack of will of teaches to get the kids to be INTRESTED in what they are supposed to learn.
Also, if it rains teachers dont go to work. The teachers have meetings, on school days like twice a month, so no school. There are even more holidays than in france ( and that tells u something,,,,,,,,).

Years ago we had a serious conversation with BIL and SIL. I told them I am willing to help sobrinos/as through school, if the kids prove to me they are worth it. I emphased that it was up to the parents to get it through to their children.
Guess how many I help nowadays ???? Yep, thats right none.
 
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"But the real problem in the dr school system is the lack of will of teaches to get the kids to be INTRESTED in what they are supposed to learn."

Malko, kids ARE interested in learning. You are right to place the blame on the teachers. Although I think this is wrong, I have kids routinely skipping school to learn at my community center.

If teachers were properly trained, I believe there would be hope for the public education system in the DR. I hope the government's plans for additional teacher training will actually take place.

~ Lindsey
 

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"But the real problem in the dr school system is the lack of will of teaches to get the kids to be INTRESTED in what they are supposed to learn."

Malko, kids ARE interested in learning. You are right to place the blame on the teachers. Although I think this is wrong, I have kids routinely skipping school to learn at my community center.

If teachers were properly trained, I believe there would be hope for the public education system in the DR. I hope the government's plans for additional teacher training will actually take place.

~ Lindsey

Totally agree. Part of the teachers job is to instill in the children the love of learning. Hard to do if you have no discipline in the classroom. My wife hired a young girl as a teaching assistant who husband had just died in a moto accident as a favor to an old friend. Girl has several years of Psychology from PUCCM but had to quit due to her financial situation ( dead husband- new baby). That itty-bitty girl has more natural discipline and teaching abilities than most that take teaching as a profession. She obviously cares and the children realize it. Unfortunately, until she takes teacher training she can only be an assistant.
 

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Never ceases to amaze me..........

A sobrina of mine, 25 years old, attemds umiversity 1 day a week (??), training to be a teacher, specialises in geography. We were talking about something or other, and she argued that it was the earth that turned around the sun.........

I'm a little confused here as to what it is that you are trying convey. Are you trying to say that it is the sun that revolves/orbits around the earth and that your sobrina is wrong with her argument?
 

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I imagine this post will not be of great interest to tourists and expats, but it has been on my mind for some time and I feel the need to put my thoughts in writing.

I am quite concerned about the Dominican Republic building new schools without building the teaching capacity to make those structures spaces of learning. Statistics and studies do not stand in their favor.

If a teacher is accustomed to teaching 3 or 4 hours each day, and suddenly their teaching time is extended to 5 - 7 hours per day without training on how to use those hours, studies show that no increased learning will take place.

USAID recently reported that of the 5 hour school day currently established in most Dominican Republic public schools, students actually learn for 2 hours and 40 minutes. On April 29, 2014, Listin Diario reported that only 25% of recent teaching graduates passed the required exam.

Compared to other Latin American countries, UNESCO has reported that the Dominican Republic scored lowest in reading and math on the established standardized test for those countries.

So, what is the DR going to do with all these new buildings they so proudly are showing off? Shouldn?t the capacity for teaching and learning be built first? Shouldn?t teachers be trained and paid more than the equivalent of $344 per month (Dominican Central Bank)? Shouldn?t classroom student/teacher ratio be better than 78:1, as reported in DW, a German reporting website?

As a global educator who works without pay to improve education capacity and opportunities for Dominican children and youth, I am quite troubled.

Lindsey

i read somewhere that it costs the government 62,000 for each classroom. that is US dollars. you think maybe this accelerated construction of buildings could be another looting with a nice disguise?
 

the gorgon

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i have been a tutor for many years and i see things totally opposite. a good teacher will teach in a classroom under a tree and will bring results. a shi**y teacher can have the best infrastructure in the world and will still be just as worthless. right now we have idiots teaching idiots how to be dumb. invest in people first and foremost before you invest in objects. nothing is going to replace intelligence, experience and passion. no amount of cement blocks and plaster can top that up.

i agree with you, 100%. i taught economics to freshman level kids, and there were many days when it was beautiful outdoors, and we just took the class outside. the kids did not learn less because they were not enclosed in a sparkly new building.