you are well connected, and i can see this happening in that manner. however, how could we duplicate this on a larger scale, so that the guy in San Jose de Ocoa could benefit at the same time as the guy in Dajabon?
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you are well connected, and i can see this happening in that manner. however, how could we duplicate this on a larger scale, so that the guy in San Jose de Ocoa could benefit at the same time as the guy in Dajabon?
I'm suprised nobody mentioned what the president is doing to reform education
what do you know about it?
Danilo convoca Consejo Econ?mico y Social para discutir Pacto para Reforma Educativa - DiarioLibre.com
what do you know about it?
Danilo convoca Consejo Econ?mico y Social para discutir Pacto para Reforma Educativa - DiarioLibre.com
Talking about the lower spectrum, educational dreams are seldom instilled by illiterate mothers and non existent fathers.
Mothers struggle to put food on the table, sometimes there is just water with sugar.
In the important formative years children do not get used to educational discipline.
Get up at seven go to school every day. This will translate into look for work, get up and work every day.
In the first years of school, attendance and drop out rates are critical for future success.
The women who worked their way up to be bank tellers or managers while managing families are a positive example.
The upper ten percent who attend universities to become doctors, engineers, lawyers or members of the government do so with family support. Their parents know the importance of education and they have the means to assure it.
The Ugly Truth
This is not endemic to Dominicans.
You can observe the same in Asia, Africa and other Latin countries.
Explanations are void.
On my travels I now tell them that I have 6 boys four girls, I'm on business and mum is home taking care of the kids.
I'm regarded as a potent real man and duly honoured. This avoids useless discussion and drinks are offered.
If they would only know the truth.:surprised
This is not endemic to Dominicans.
You can observe the same in Asia, Africa and other Latin countries.
Explanations are void.
On my travels I now tell them that I have 6 boys four girls, I'm on business and mum is home taking care of the kids.
I'm regarded as a potent real man and duly honoured. This avoids useless discussion and drinks are offered.
If they would only know the truth.:surprised
There is little positive incentive for a child to be educated here.
"Papi", who for far too many, is either not in the home, or only,"visits" on Sunday afternoon, and then just to "Get His" from between "Mami's Legs"!
"Yup", "Mami" not only made the first mistake, but she then repeats it again & again!!!!
"Papi", does not support her, or his kids, but "Mami" makes more & more of them, OFTEN, with the same "Loser"!!!
Who are the "Heroes" to a young Dominican, Sports Stars, Entertainment Stars,Corrupt Politicians,( I Guess I Should Just Say:, "Politicians", cause they are ALL Corrupt!)
Prostitutes, they have nice clothes, "Celulares", and some even live in "Europa"!!!!
Drug Dealers,..."All Of The Above, PLUS, Mansions, and "Jepetas" too.
The "Ricos", y "Politicos", want the "Status Quo" to go on forever!!!
Cheap labor, and the "Ignorant Masses", are easily controlled.
Dominicans never do any "Advance Planning".
They spend everything they earn, they buy "Tablespoonfuls" of food at the colmado, buy gasoline by the "Cien Peso" amount, you expect them to grasp the, "Study Today", "Earn More Money" in 10 years" concept?????
I never did, and I am "Smart"!
My Favorite reason for hoping "Things" never change was always, "Poor Girls" are EASY, and work on the Cheap!!!
I think a guy like me has to go to Angola to find cheaper prostitutes than here!
AND, although, I have never there, "I'll Pass"!
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"Papi", who for far too many, is either not in the home, or only,"visits" on Sunday afternoon, and then just to "Get His" from between "Mami's Legs"!
"Yup", "Mami" not only made the first mistake, but she then repeats it again & again!!!!
"Papi", does not support her, or his kids, but "Mami" makes more & more of them, OFTEN, with the same "Loser"!!!
Who are the "Heroes" to a young Dominican, Sports Stars, Entertainment Stars,Corrupt Politicians,( I Guess I Should Just Say:, "Politicians", cause they are ALL Corrupt!)
Prostitutes, they have nice clothes, "Celulares", and some even live in "Europa"!!!!
Drug Dealers,..."All Of The Above, PLUS, Mansions, and "Jepetas" too.
The "Ricos", y "Politicos", want the "Status Quo" to go on forever!!!
Cheap labor, and the "Ignorant Masses", are easily controlled.
Dominicans never do any "Advance Planning".
They spend everything they earn, they buy "Tablespoonfuls" of food at the colmado, buy gasoline by the "Cien Peso" amount, you expect them to grasp the, "Study Today", "Earn More Money" in 10 years" concept?????
I never did, and I am "Smart"!
My Favorite reason for hoping "Things" never change was always, "Poor Girls" are EASY, and work on the Cheap!!!
I think a guy like me has to go to Angola to find cheaper prostitutes than here!
AND, although, I have never there, "I'll Pass"!
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My wife had to join some instruction of the ministry of education this week, talking about the reform of the curriculum they are proposing, basically trying to copy 'the American system' whatever that may be. She told me that one of the plans is to take over the responsibility of the children starting at 45 days of age, from as early as 7.30 till 6pm, so parents are both able to work.
This happened in Europe, probably in US as well, and is not a good tendency. People are becoming more and more slaves of their desire to have what they can't have now and the government can influence from a very young age in the life's of your children, teaching them what you possibly wouldn't want them to learn and alienating your child from the appropriate authority , the parents.
This happened in Europe, probably in US as well, and is not a good tendency. People are becoming more and more slaves of their desire to have what they can't have now and the government can influence from a very young age in the life's of your children, teaching them what you possibly wouldn't want them to learn and alienating your child from the appropriate authority , the parents.
I believe that if the teacher is good and the pedagogy, motivating, it is possible to keep large classrooms of students in order. I also believe there is a value of education amongst the poor.
I just returned from one of my charity's iPads Under Trees sessions in a very poor area behind Montellano. (See the Community section of dr1 for more information about this project.) Today, almost 100 children preschool through teenage years worked in pairs, sitting 2 to a plastic chair for a 1/2 hour session playing educational games and doing Google searches on specific topics we provided. All the kids sat and waited patiently on a small wall until their turn came. For some, the wait was 2 hours. We began this project only a month ago and each week there are more kids as the word gets out. Are we doing something special? Not really. Just giving some extra stimulation and expanding learning beyond rote.
You don't need iPads to encourage kids to learn, though. A good teacher and stimulating lessons will also work. For now- as I mentioned before- I suggest the DR invest in training teachers and purchasing educational materials for the classroom. And that does not need to include technology.
Lindsey
I just returned from one of my charity's iPads Under Trees sessions in a very poor area behind Montellano. (See the Community section of dr1 for more information about this project.) Today, almost 100 children preschool through teenage years worked in pairs, sitting 2 to a plastic chair for a 1/2 hour session playing educational games and doing Google searches on specific topics we provided. All the kids sat and waited patiently on a small wall until their turn came. For some, the wait was 2 hours. We began this project only a month ago and each week there are more kids as the word gets out. Are we doing something special? Not really. Just giving some extra stimulation and expanding learning beyond rote.
You don't need iPads to encourage kids to learn, though. A good teacher and stimulating lessons will also work. For now- as I mentioned before- I suggest the DR invest in training teachers and purchasing educational materials for the classroom. And that does not need to include technology.
Lindsey
i had a buddy in a barrio in POP, and i used to drop by his home every so often. he lived in a building beside a schoolhouse. the guy who owned the building rented one space in the structure to a guy who ran a little colmado there. he had the obligatory speakers and the bachata blaring all day, right beside the school.
there is your answer right there. the guy saw no reason why he should not disrupt the school, because just what purpose does education serve, anyway? the building owner saw no reason why he should not rent to a guy who was going to disturb a school, because just what value does education have, anyway? the municipality did not step in and shut the noise down, because who cares if the kids learn? the guy is using the bachata to sell Presidente, so which is more important there?
My son in Boston attended an "After School Program" when he was about 6 years old,
as I was a single Dad and couldn't pick him up until after 5 pm.
The program's coordinator kicked him out.
She said he was influencing the other children, who paid more attention to him than to the teachers.
I TRIED to explain to her that a "Teacher" should be able to "Influence" a 6 year old, and not the other way around.
About 4 weeks later, SHE was fired, and my son was re-instated.
MY Son???
I guess the "Apple DOESN'T fall far from the tree".!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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as I was a single Dad and couldn't pick him up until after 5 pm.
The program's coordinator kicked him out.
She said he was influencing the other children, who paid more attention to him than to the teachers.
I TRIED to explain to her that a "Teacher" should be able to "Influence" a 6 year old, and not the other way around.
About 4 weeks later, SHE was fired, and my son was re-instated.
MY Son???
I guess the "Apple DOESN'T fall far from the tree".!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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As I said, I have not found the real main educational problem in DR defined in a few words, not even in this thread,
Did find only some suggetions and the possible roots to the problem.
What am I doing about it?
1- Trying to find out what THE REST of the people think the problems is, including the gov... [re-read my question in my previous post]
2- offer my solution and/or try to let them know what I think the real the problem is
Wish had people around me to start an school, "like Bos S" did, the best way to make beleive or persuade.
In my whole life I have come close to only one person who had what it takes to start an school, she is in Miami now, supervising a technology program/system for a public school, making a lot of $ too.
She always thanks and remind me and her friends that she got into technology for education because I pushed her.
Regret I dumped her, but we are still very good friends.
If you have the means to contact Bob and Lindsay, tell them I will consider being a volunteer.
I have a plan, for a long time, to start my own "program", aimed at 'empirical', pragmatic results. Personal situations do not allow me yet.
I have been in DR twice, almost a year each time, to small towns, dedicated full time to "teaching", children and adults, my way, at my own expense,
last time I did that had a wife and a child to support, to be able to travel to DR resigned as "chief" in a high technology company you wont beleive.
YOU have the means to contact ME! Send me a PM. We love volunteers. Know that my volunteers work. They don't just watch or walk away to do something else.
I, too, have a school- in Ghana. Our enrollment is now beyond 300 students. For the Dominican Republic, I don't need to do that. I love doing what we do, working with volunteers who are not afraid to work, who believe in the cause, and who love kids. I love watching our program grow, the enthusiasm of the kids, and the leaps and bounds of learning that takes place.
If you wish to be a part of something special and you aren't afraid of a little work in a hot, not too clean place, then contact me. We would welcome you.
Lindsey
And I didn't mean to indicate that I didn't work alongside the volunteers. I do. We ALL do! We are hands-on every Wednesday and Friday morning, from 9 am - 11:30 - 12 noon. If you want to be part of something special, just let me know.
Lindsey
Lindsey
i do not need to read your links because i am not trying to sound authoritative in any of the threads you post in. i stay away from the political threads, the ones in which you make all the copy and paste offerings. then you come into an education thread and tell us that what the DR needs to do is to copy the Chilean model, which is the dumbest thing i have heard from you all day. man, you should be embarrassed to say something like that; you should be hanging your head in shame.