Most Haitians don't have documentation in their own country, let alone in a neighboring one.bob saunders said:I don't understand your first statement because it is a contradition. At my wife's school in Jarabacoa as well as the public schools and catholic schools in Jarabacoa, they will not let a kid go to school without a birth certificate, no matter whether they are Dominican, Haitian, American...etc. So how do illegal immigrants, mainly Haitians, get birth certificates in the DR, other than illegally. I guess things do not operate the same throughout the DR,the quality of Education varies, as it does from state to state or province to province.
NALs said:....Aside from illegal means, I really don't know how an illegal would get a birth certificate. -NALs
Rick Snyder said:...
According to the Dominican Constitution;
Titulo Seccion II Art 9
d. Todo ciudadano dominicano tiene el deber de votar, siempre que esté legalmente capacitado para hacerlo.
Put this in conjunction with laws that aren't enforced and the feasibility of laws being enforced and what would you have?
I was always under the impression that like the USA the Dominicans had the right to not vote if that was their desire.
Rick
NALs said:Most Haitians don't have documentation in their own country, let alone in a neighboring one.
-NALs
Rick Snyder said:Somebody please address my post #64. Pretty please.
Rick
Rick Snyder said:Mirador thank you for that which means that my interpertation was in fact correct but I didn't want to say something with the possibility of it being wrong.
Please address the sub paragraph from Ley 66-97 for me.
Rick
Edited to add;
I'm just trying to find out if either of these documents, one being the control for the whole of the DR and the other for the education within the DR, in any way construe that only Dominican children are afforded an education here in the public school system.
Mirador said:Rick, here's a quick translation of the paragraph in cuestion...
Title l Chapter ll Art 4
Education is a permanent and inalienable right of the human being. In order to effectively realize its fulfillment, each person has the right to an integral education that allows the development of his/her own individuality and the achievement of a socially useful activity; appropriate to his/her vocation and within the requirements of the national or local interest, without any type of discrimination, for reasons of race, sex, creed, economic or social position or of any other nature.
What this section basically says is the following (this is a very concise):Rick Snyder said:Nal's or any Dominican,
Speaking of education, would you please read there two Dominican laws and give me your take on a Haitian, American, or what ever nationality to acquiring education here. Get back to me as I wish to know if I'm interpreting them correctly. Thank you.
According to the Dominican Constitution;
Titulo Seccion I Art 8
16. La libertad de ense?anza. La educaci?n primaria ser? obligatoria. Es deber del Estado proporcionar la educaci?n fundamental a todos los habitantes del territorio nacional y tomar las providencias necesarias para eliminar el analfabetismo. Tanto la educaci?n primaria y secundaria, como la que se ofrezca en las escuelas agron?micas, vocacionales, art?sticas, comerciales, de artes manuales y de econom?a dom?stica ser?n gratuitas. El Estado procurar? la m?s amplia difusi?n de la ciencia y la cultura, facilitando de manera adecuada que todas las personas se beneficien con los resultados del progreso cient?fico y moral.
Again, in a very concise manner it says the following:Rick Snyder said:According to Ley Org?nica de Educaci?n de la Rep?blica Dominicana Ley No. 66-97
T?tulo l Cap?tulo ll Art 4
a. La educaci?n es un derecho permanente e irrenunciable del ser humano. Para hacer efectivo su cumplimiento, cada persona tiene derecho a una educaci?n integral que le permita el desarrollo de su propia individualidad y la realizaci?n de una actividad socialmente ?til; adecuada a su vocaci?n y dentro de las exigencias del inter?s nacional o local, sin ning?n tipo de discriminaci?n por raz?n de raza, de sexo, de credo, de posici?n econ?mica y social o de cualquiera otra naturaleza.
Rick
Oh no. Dominicans are supposed to vote, its compulsory.Rick Snyder said:I was always under the impression that like the USA the Dominicans had the right to not vote if that was their desire.
Rick