I'm not sure.I will have to ask.Jes?s de Gal?ndez was a good man.Shame what happend to him.
Tainos in the DR?
I'm not sure.I will have to ask.Jes?s de Gal?ndez was a good man.Shame what happend to him.
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Hi guys, it's been way too long since I've popped my head in to say hello to everyone. I've been around looking at all the comments and replies to everyone, but I haven't signed up until today
! This forum is very informative and I'm hoping to learn more.
Looking forward to sharing ideas with everybody! And everyone is so nice (even though you dont even know me yet). It was nice reading about where everyone is at. I look forward to getting to know everyone as we exchange messages on this forum.
I'm pretty happy to be here!
Hi guys, it's been way too long since I've popped my head in to say hello to everyone. I've been around looking at all the comments and replies to everyone, but I haven't signed up until today
! This forum is very informative and I'm hoping to learn more.Looking forward to sharing ideas with everybody! And everyone is so nice (even though you dont even know me yet). It was nice reading about where everyone is at. I look forward to getting to know everyone as we exchange messages on this forum.
I'm pretty happy to be here!
Hi guys, it's been way too long since I've popped my head in to say hello to everyone. I've been around looking at all the comments and replies to everyone, but I haven't signed up until today
Looking forward to sharing ideas with everybody! And everyone is so nice (even though you dont even know me yet). It was nice reading about where everyone is at. I look forward to getting to know everyone as we exchange messages on this forum.
I'm pretty happy to be here!
Welcome Nearcalycle!!!
I think I might have a Taino ancestry. I have dark very straight hair, and my facial features aren't very common. I definitely don't look like a typical Dominican.
I have been mistaken for a Gypsy(3 times), from Istanbul(5 times), Native American(6 times), from India or South America(too many times to count), and every Sicilian I have encountered wants to believe I am Sicilian. The worst part is other Dominicans don't want to believe I am Dominican. When I tell that I am indeed Dominican they always ask "but where are you from originally?".
I have been mistaken for a Gypsy(3 times), from Istanbul(5 times), Native American(6 times), from India or South America(too many times to count), and every Sicilian I have encountered wants to believe I am Sicilian. The worst part is other Dominicans don't want to believe I am Dominican. When I tell that I am indeed Dominican they always ask "but where are you from originally?".
I've been reading some of the posts on thei topic. We were taught in US schools that the USA is a " melting pot" . This is far from true even after 58 years. In the DR, it truely is a melting pod with a little of this and a little of that. Yet, like the US, the cream still settles to the top in a social economic context. For a small country that has been through so much with such a rich history, it truely is remarkable, at least to the naked eye, most appear to live side by side without too much racial and cultural conflict.
Update:
According to our distinguished Baracutei recently a British museum decided to run carbon dating analysis of Taino artifacts acquirted in the DR and it appears the results show they were created in the 1850's or so. This is quite amazing since supposedly the Tainos were all dead 30 years after the Spanish landed.
Furthermore, I understand a British "linguist" specialist in the area of African languages visited the DR and stayed for some time in some remote villages looking for said languages. Although she didn't find any African languages she did find a language spoken by three families that hereto had never been recognized. We'll keep you posted.
According to our distinguished Baracutei recently a British museum decided to run carbon dating analysis of Taino artifacts acquirted in the DR and it appears the results show they were created in the 1850's or so. This is quite amazing since supposedly the Tainos were all dead 30 years after the Spanish landed.
Furthermore, I understand a British "linguist" specialist in the area of African languages visited the DR and stayed for some time in some remote villages looking for said languages. Although she didn't find any African languages she did find a language spoken by three families that hereto had never been recognized. We'll keep you posted.
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Hey, El Chip-Oh! Any links? I need to know, and I need to know pronto, unless they are speaking jerga.
Chip this is no a sucess, they should find more recent Taino artifacts acquirted, let's say of 1950. I remember in my great grandmother's house in estancia Nueva Moca "Campo" the kitchen and all the utensilios where made Taino stile.
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Bateas, tinajas, higueras,fogon de barro, cucharones de madera, etc.
I won't never forget "El saguan" this a place built of wood and cana roof the floor is in dirt and of course a Taino hamaca, cool place to take a nap after lunch..
JJ
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Bateas, tinajas, higueras,fogon de barro, cucharones de madera, etc.
I won't never forget "El saguan" this a place built of wood and cana roof the floor is in dirt and of course a Taino hamaca, cool place to take a nap after lunch..
JJ
higueras
Thank you for posting. I visited a lady in the mountains who made some higueras for me. I brought them back north, sold some, gave some as gifts. My African friends were the first to acknowledge them as drinking gourds. I supposed there may be debate as to whether they arose independently across the oceans, or maybe africans brought them to the RD...
Either way, I am looking forward to learning about the language found in only 3 families.
-- Sam
Thank you for posting. I visited a lady in the mountains who made some higueras for me. I brought them back north, sold some, gave some as gifts. My African friends were the first to acknowledge them as drinking gourds. I supposed there may be debate as to whether they arose independently across the oceans, or maybe africans brought them to the RD...
Either way, I am looking forward to learning about the language found in only 3 families.
-- Sam
Next time you come back to DR, if you have the chance take a tour around the Cibao valley this is the area of the island where some Taino customs are preserve.
To name some of those place; "El Santo cerro", "Ballacanes" y "Miranda" in La Vega province and "El Higuerito", Moca land of artesanos where you will find all kind of Taino artifacts.
JJ
To name some of those place; "El Santo cerro", "Ballacanes" y "Miranda" in La Vega province and "El Higuerito", Moca land of artesanos where you will find all kind of Taino artifacts.
JJ
taino girl in DR
Ppl always say there are no indians in Dr
Yet take a look at this girl and tell me she aint indian
El Bohio Dominicano: "Joven Cibaea" ~ Vistas de El Cibao
Ppl always say there are no indians in Dr
Yet take a look at this girl and tell me she aint indian
El Bohio Dominicano: "Joven Cibaea" ~ Vistas de El Cibao
She does have the Mexican and/or Pocahantas look, but you can also get this look by white/black mixing.
I think a lot of white people have some asian/indian features, for example high cheekbones, small eyes etc.they are just never confused as being indian or asian because they dont have all the features and/or are completely white. Mix this with some black and u can get some really native looking people.
Besides, when it comes to mixing and genes, fenotypes really dont say anything.
Not saying there is no taino blood in dominicans, just that looking native is not the same as being (some part) native.
It would be really interesting to find out more about this though. Isnt national geographic doing a big research about this now (worldwide), where your ancestors (waaaaay back come from), you can get tested both from father as mother side. So people who suspect they have some taino blood, get urself tested
She does have the Mexican and/or Pocahantas look, but you can also get this look by white/black mixing.
I think a lot of white people have some asian/indian features, for example high cheekbones, small eyes etc.they are just never confused as being indian or asian because they dont have all the features and/or are completely white. Mix this with some black and u can get some really native looking people.
Besides, when it comes to mixing and genes, fenotypes really dont say anything.
Not saying there is no taino blood in dominicans, just that looking native is not the same as being (some part) native.
It would be really interesting to find out more about this though. Isnt national geographic doing a big research about this now (worldwide), where your ancestors (waaaaay back come from), you can get tested both from father as mother side. So people who suspect they have some taino blood, get urself tested
Think if you look at the start of the thread this has all been covered as far as the testing. both here and PR
Isnt national geographic doing a big research about this now (worldwide), where your ancestors (waaaaay back come from), you can get tested both from father as mother side. So people who suspect they have some taino blood, get urself tested
You can do deep DNA testing through National Geographic, FamilyTree DNA, and some others, for a price that usually begins around $100. The Sorenson Project is doing them for free, but you don't personally get the results, it's more a research project. [Sometimes Sorenson later offers you the results for a reduced price, but it takes a year or two - the others are quicker]. The results would be very interesting if enough Dominicans had the test - but what it shows is the ultimate ancestor, from like 20-40,000 years ago. A woman can only test her mother's line, a male can test both mother and father, again only in direct lines.
All of my ancestry for hundreds of years is Italian - but I learned that my maternal grandfather's deep ancestry is from the Middle East, maternal grandmother's from Western Asia, paternal grandfather Scandinavian. [my brother and maternal uncle did the grandpa testing] So I'm wondering if someone with Taino ancestry would show up as Asian or same/similar to Indians from the North and South Americas???
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Im not sure what taino ancestry would show up as? My guess is similiar to Indians from north/south america, but i dont know that much about taino history. At least it would be a different result then african ancestry and thats what we're go for here
When and how did tainos go to the DR? Did they get to the DR travelling south or did they came there later when south america was populated already?Thats really interesting though, that u know where both sides of the family stem from. I wonder what mine is :cheeky:
Wondering by the way, somebody thats mixed (or that has mixed parents), would it get more than 1 result? For example if somebody is mixed taino/african would both parts show up? Or does it keep following the mothersside way back so it ends up 'pure'.