Do you regret moving to the Dominican Republic?

[bob saunders]

What does the privileged life of one person have to do with the struggles of another person? It is not a persons fault with they are born poor or rich, however they do have some input on whether they die rich or poor. Certainly for the average poor Dominican to escape poverty it is not an easy accomplishment, but many of the people my wife introduced to me back in 1997 , including some of her relatives didn't have a pot to **** in they were so poor, but through hard work and education they are much better off than they were 20 years ago. Those that stayed at the colmado drinking rum and playing dominoes , while making fun of the hard working Haitians are still as poor as they were or they are leeching off a family member whose become more successful. It isn't just about working hard, it's about working smart and living smart.

And I don't live surrounded by Europeans or NA, I live surrounded by Dominicans and Haitians. I notice those that succeed through hard work and being smart, and I noticed those that tell people that they are poor because they are unlucky...etc, when the real reason are they are unmotivated to become successful. Measuring success is very hard as well because people have different ideas on what success. Now that I am 60 years old, have a comfortable pension and good income here in the DR, my main thought is to maintain my heath and live as stress free as possible. Financial security certainly helps with stress free part.

 

[Dominicanese]

I think I know what you mean, but you cant blame the spaniards and Libanese having a lot of succesfull businesses, it is how it is.

true, your right

 

[Dominicanese]

What does the privileged life of one person have to do with the struggles of another person? It is not a persons fault with they are born poor or rich, however they do have some input on whether they die rich or poor. Certainly for the average poor Dominican to escape poverty it is not an easy accomplishment, but many of the people my wife introduced to me back in 1997 , including some of her relatives didn't have a pot to **** in they were so poor, but through hard work and education they are much better off than they were 20 years ago. Those that stayed at the colmado drinking rum and playing dominoes , while making fun of the hard working Haitians are still as poor as they were or they are leeching off a family member whose become more successful. It isn't just about working hard, it's about working smart and living smart.

And I don't live surrounded by Europeans or NA, I live surrounded by Dominicans and Haitians. I notice those that succeed through hard work and being smart, and I noticed those that tell people that they are poor because they are unlucky...etc, when the real reason are they are unmotivated to become successful. Measuring success is very hard as well because people have different ideas on what success. Now that I am 60 years old, have a comfortable pension and good income here in the DR, my main thought is to maintain my heath and live as stress free as possible. Financial security certainly helps with stress free part.

your not getting the point bro

those hardworking dominicans you said, the ones that didnt have a pot to **** in, many still and imean MANY STILL LIVE LIKE ****, explain those, idc how many u know that succeeded i know many that worked to the bone and still dont have a pot to **** in, and im talking univiersities, no rum drinking, beach going, domino playing, selfish pricks that are your age or older that still do not reach your level or any other dominicans you meantioned

you have to remember something, iv spoken with old, young, rich, and poor people they all have different answers but at the sametime they all have a point. There is such thing as luck whether you like it or not

why aree there some mothers that die during birth, why are theyr babies that dont make it alive through the vagina hole, ITS THE SAMETHING WITH SUCCESS, SAME **** THE SAME VERY ****, you cannot expect success with hardwork, i explained very briefly i know a bunch of IDIOTS who have done nothing but domino playing, rum drinking, clubbing etc.. or sleeping all day in their room in parents house who EFFORTLESSLY MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN YOU now live in mansions, imean its unbelievable yet they get the praise but not the hardworking individuals who are smarter and harder working and still do not have ****, you have not explained anything

now endays it is much much much harder than when you were young, the young ppl in the states for example are gonna come to a point where technology is taking over, its not the same, here in the DR theres too many ppl, never has it been as crowded as today, but this is another subject

now the only way to make money is literally ripping people off through a mobile device or the internet, i can easily do it but thats not my moral like the vast majority of ppl

 

[Dominicanese]

jesus im just trying to through some sense to you fellas that not always is being smart and hardworking really gonna make you successful that is simply just not always the case

i know extremely smart puerto rican guy who doesnt even seem like he's 20, he talks like a 55 year old due his intelligence yet he lives like **** and he simply doesnt want to rpi people off he made alot a money ripping ppl off and hustling but he doesnt do it no more and because of curroption hes not going anymore

judgement is the true enemy and clouds the good in people, i have respect for a poor dominican man who just by being a human being sees me tired climbing a steep hill brings me water not knowing who i am and barely has water for himself, that happened to me in jarabacoa, yet a rich man in the capital wont do that even if u are middle or upper class, so **** success if its gonna do that to people

 

[Derfish]

^^ egh europeans always have it lucky when it comes to money and economic status, but not for us dominicans ^^

Does that have anything to do with the well organized soclal systems that exist in Europe that most on this board love to hate?

 

[Dominicanese]

Does that have anything to do with the well organized soclal systems that exist in Europe that most on this board love to hate?

idc if europeans have it lucky or not, but what i hate is judgement, you would recieve more help from a poor dominican man or any third world nation than a european thats for sure, and even in europe the poor or middle class will help u in some way shape or form, yes theres crimes etc... but isnt the ones running this world bigger criminals anyways, they created the crimes in poor areas globally so, its all really debatable

and yes europe has a much more organized system than in the new world (except for canada) in which the people get free health care and education, if the whole world and the DR was like that trust me we will see a flip, now thats lucky

 

[Derfish]

idc if europeans have it lucky or not, but what i hate is judgement, you would recieve more help from a poor dominican man or any third world nation than a european thats for sure, and even in europe the poor or middle class will help u in some way shape or form, yes theres crimes etc... but isnt the ones running this world bigger criminals anyways, they created the crimes in poor areas globally so, its all really debatable

and yes europe has a much more organized system than in the new world (except for canada) in which the people get free health care and education, if the whole world and the DR was like that trust me we will see a flip, now thats lucky

What I know of the poor Dominican males is "Marry my mother and then we can all live off you."
I was with a woman for almost 3 years, at first her 19 year old son was with us a limp wristed gay guy, I accepted him, then when I was supporting him his older sister moved in with us with her baby, OK she didn't have any idea of working any more than her mommy did, nor her brother, then later the older son moved in too. He had a job, but refused to help with any household expenses. I was the rich gringo all that was on my shoulders. Those are my experiences with poor Dominicans.
Der Fish

 

[Fulano2]

idc if europeans have it lucky or not, but what i hate is judgement, you would recieve more help from a poor dominican man or any third world nation than a european thats for sure, and even in europe the poor or middle class will help u in some way shape or form, yes theres crimes etc... but isnt the ones running this world bigger criminals anyways, they created the crimes in poor areas globally so, its all really debatable

and yes europe has a much more organized system than in the new world (except for canada) in which the people get free health care and education, if the whole world and the DR was like that trust me we will see a flip, now thats lucky

Well I'd rather have an accident on a lonely road in Holland or Belgium than in the DR. Most likely they finish you off and celebrate their catch. Keep on dreaming primo!

 

[irishpaddy]

What I know of the poor Dominican males is "Marry my mother and then we can all live off you."
I was with a woman for almost 3 years, at first her 19 year old son was with us a limp wristed gay guy, I accepted him, then when I was supporting him his older sister moved in with us with her baby, OK she didn't have any idea of working any more than her mommy did, nor her brother, then later the older son moved in too. He had a job, but refused to help with any household expenses. I was the rich gringo all that was on my shoulders. Those are my experiences with poor Dominicans.
Der Fish

JUST A QUESTION ....why did you allow them to move in ?

 

[Dominicanese]

JUST A QUESTION ....why did you allow them to move in ?

cause he was nice enough to do it

 

[Dominicanese]

Well I'd rather have an accident on a lonely road in Holland or Belgium than in the DR. Most likely they finish you off and celebrate their catch. Keep on dreaming primo!

you missed my point bratha

 

[Dominicanese]

What I know of the poor Dominican males is "Marry my mother and then we can all live off you."
I was with a woman for almost 3 years, at first her 19 year old son was with us a limp wristed gay guy, I accepted him, then when I was supporting him his older sister moved in with us with her baby, OK she didn't have any idea of working any more than her mommy did, nor her brother, then later the older son moved in too. He had a job, but refused to help with any household expenses. I was the rich gringo all that was on my shoulders. Those are my experiences with poor Dominicans.
Der Fish

you too have missed my point

first of all go for your own kind, it never works interracial or international marriages, trust me i see it all the time and if you were like them, you would do the same (if you were poor so)

you and fulano both have went totally against bob in his post in page 15 in which he stated that he knows only a small number of a few tiny dominicans that made it out, and got lucky, they were poor dominicans, thanks for supporting me

 

[bob saunders]

you too have missed my point

first of all go for your own kind, it never works interracial or international marriages, trust me i see it all the time and if you were like them, you would do the same (if you were poor so)

you and fulano both have went totally against bob in his post in page 15 in which he stated that he knows only a small number of a few tiny dominicans that made it out, and got lucky, they were poor dominicans, thanks for supporting me

I said know such thing , perhaps you should re-read what I wrote. I will give you an example of a Dominican family I have known for 20 years. Mother was one of my wife's students and the father ( a carpenter) grew up as next door neighbors to my wife's family. The girl was from the countryside, crafty more than intelligent and a dishonest streak in her, but her positives outnumbered her negatives. The girl became a teacher and my wife gave her a job- excellent teacher and great at dealing with kids with problem behavior. They have three girls, all three very smart and were reading very well by the end of grade one. Fast forward 20 years- mother has her masters degree and works for the school district in la Vega doing the adult literacy program for the province. Oldest girl is a physiologist, second oldest is on an athletic scholarship in Kansas (Volleyball) and the youngest just came back from doing her last year of high school in Japan. The father never advanced beyond building tables and chairs but he is a very good and supportive father. These two started off with nothing, the girl with less than nothing, but they have achieved quite a bit and their daughters have all managed to get through their teen years without getting pregnant and will all do well in life.
As far as inter-racial marriages, lol, it's all about the individuals, not their race.

 

[Harleysrock]

Well I'd rather have an accident on a lonely road in Holland or Belgium than in the DR. Most likely they finish you off and celebrate their catch. Keep on dreaming primo!

Not my experience and I have had a lot of breakdowns and accidents situations here. Doms stop right away, in Canada no one stops, you are on your own till your tow truck or family/friends arrive. Maybe we have just been lucky but each time thousands of dollars of either music equipment or other stuff/electronics has been in the car and usually at night in the middle of no where... The MOPC are pretty decent as well.

There is NO comparison to the help we have received here for stuff like this, not even close!!

 

[the gorgon]

The set-up that for example BelgianMik describes sounds good. There is also a lot of people that live half year in DR (winter) and half year in their home land (working) and that is an option that appeals to me, however my employer would not allow it which I think is the deal-breaker for most.

The key is to not be too dependent of DR income in my opinion so either one is retired and gets a steady pension payment each month or have enough money/investments abroad to "retire" early and enjoy life in the DR.

Just my 2 cents

the key here is to hope that the guys who are paying you that interest from which you live do not bugger off with your stash. it has been known to happen...

 

[bob saunders]

Not my experience and I have had a lot of breakdowns and accidents situations here. Doms stop right away, in Canada no one stops, you are on your own till your tow truck or family/friends arrive. Maybe we have just been lucky but each time thousands of dollars of either music equipment or other stuff/electronics has been in the car and usually at night in the middle of no where... The MOPC are pretty decent as well.

There is NO comparison to the help we have received here for stuff like this, not even close!!

My experience in Canada are far different than yours, I have stopped to help people many times and the few times I've had car problems I have received plenty of help.

 

[Harleysrock]

My experience in Canada are far different than yours, I have stopped to help people many times and the few times I've had car problems I have received plenty of help.

Of course your experiences are the opposite of mine, I would expect nothing less!

 

[bob saunders]

Of course your experiences are the opposite of mine, I would expect nothing less!

I'm from the Cariboo/Chilcotin, Harleysrock. Very rare for any local not to stop and ask if you need any help. Perhaps you don't come across as a person that needs or wants help.
Yes, Dominicans in general are helpful, even more so if they recognize you.

 

[Mauricio]

I was picking up my daughter from a bday in Puerta de Hierro last week, very much in the outskirts of SD, to not say, en El monte. I was early so decided to park outside the residencial a few hundred meters past the entrance. Several passers by would stop and ask if everything was ok, if I was 'quedado'. In the capital you won't see that but just outside it, people seem to be different.

 

[jstarebel]

cause he was nice enough to do it

Unfortunately, too many Dominicans mistake kindness and decency for weakness which I will never understand. I do however enjoy seeing the look on their faces when they understand that they were dead wrong especially when the lies that typically follow this discovery falls on deaf ears.