prostitution affects tourism in sosua

[jd426]

I think you're completely missing the point. The government is not trying to stop prostitution. They are trying to stop ORGANISED prostitution, including pimping, and trying to stop human trafficking. They closed the bars as there was evidence of payment of Salidas - the girls were having to pay the bar when they left - and also because there were a lot of non-Dominicans there who may have been trafficked.

I imagine 90% of prostitutes hook up with customers online these days. There isn't a need for a red-light district because anyone looking for girls can find one very quickly online.

I guarantee you if you opened a Restaurant or Bar, with FREE Wi Fi for Hookers , who then hooked up " online" only. and only used your place for a drink and to mingle among themselves and share stories , they authorities would shut you down in less than 72 Hours..

This is also why I think certain HOTELS will be the next targets ..u know the ones where the girls just hang out around the Pool and Bar Area... No Salidas are ever collected ..they are just allowed to walk in and out .
This crackdown has NOTHING to do with Salidas , That is only the Method they are using to BOIL the Frog Slowly.
Next up will be the Hotels , PLUS even arresting Mongers , which they wont hesitate to do, if it comes to it .
Anyone who thinks this is only about " pimping" and "saving " girls from " sex traffickers" , is totally delusional , imo.

That's why they closed the Bermuda bar on the corner? Hermann was collecting salidas?

Exactly,,, Sarcasm Noted , and just to explain it to the others who dont know.. Herman never collected Salidas.. from anyone .. girls just hung out there. that was all it took to shut him down.. Just like Rumba ..and several others ..
But ahh.. they are Clever ,they disguised it as " Underage drinking" Violations ... to not make it too obvious.... Where else has the Dom Govt ever cared about Underage Drinking ?

 

[cobraboy]

So you want it to happen, as long as its someone else doing it then? It's like people who complain about garbage in the streets, but will never bend over and pick up a piece...

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[GuillermoRamon]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Follow the chain of replies you have had to my posts, I have faith in you. Or do I have to paste in the previous comments to make it easier?

 

[cobraboy]

Follow the chain of replies you have had to my posts, I have faith in you.

I don't care about your faith. I just have no idea the point you are trying to make.

 

[GuillermoRamon]

I don't care about your faith. I just have no idea the point you are trying to make.

You want change, considering you "would buy" but won't, considering there is a stigma, and are all good with Sosua becoming a sleepy town with nothing in it, as long as someone performs the change. Seeing as you hear all these MoT conversations and have "the inside scoop" when is the transformation going to be complete? Why not buy knowing change is coming and that your property value will go up after the transformation is complete?

 

[cobraboy]

You want change, considering you "would buy" but won't, considering there is a stigma, and are all good with Sosua becoming a sleepy town with nothing in it, as long as someone performs the change. Seeing as you hear all these MoT conversations and have "the inside scoop" when is the transformation going to be complete? Why not buy knowing change is coming and that your property value will go up after the transformation is complete?

You offer straw men and non-sequiturs.

Actually I said I had an opportunity but won't pull the trigger.

It should come as no surprise that the MoT knows Sosua's problem.

It should come as no surprise when the PoohBahs shut down venues and try to make changes.

It should also come as no surprise that DR gubmint is inefficient and has problems implementing plans.

My MoT comments were not in depth, but clearly made when discussing a project we are doing. They were unsolicited and I did not inquire further because Sosua is meaningless to our project. We will just be passing through and require some security the MoT can arrange, as it's in their best interest to do so. There were no timelines or concrete plans discussed, nor did I ask.

I am a consumer, not a SJW or Sir Save-a-Ho. I'll make my investment decisions in my own way.

I also understand some, perhaps like you, like Sosua's sex tourism reputation, and also understand some tourists and expats are in the area specifically because of that activity. At least acknowledge that the reputation has put a damper on tourism development in the area, regardless how much you gravitate toward it.

 

[GuillermoRamon]

Your exact words as per post #204 were:

"As in any "urban renewal" project---and make no mistake: the MoT indeed considers Sosua such a project, because I heard those exact words from a high-ranking MoT official---remove the bad before the new comes in, both physical properties, and the girls and their clients."

So, you "know" a plan is in the works to revamp Sosua, so again, why would you not buy knowing it's going to be changed, such that you can financially benefit on the said purchase?

You also stated verbatim:

"At least acknowledge that the reputation has put a damper on tourism development in the area, regardless how much you gravitate toward it."

As a "said tourist", I will continue to come, regardless of the state, I have a Dominican girlfriend, and enjoy being with people I befriended over the years of going to Sosua, so I need not play the chica game. End of the day, I don't really care whether if it were to stay how it was when I first arrived 8 years ago, or does become the sleepy town, I'll still be here.

The only Strawman is in Oz my Fren...

 

[cobraboy]

So, you "know" a plan is in the works to revamp Sosua, so again, why would you not buy knowing it's going to be changed, such that you can financially benefit on the said purchase?

"Urban Renewal" is a generic term for tearing down and rebuilding. This is what, I assume because of the context in which the term was used, they meant.

I have seen many such projects in my life. They always start with a concept before plans are drawn up, and developers sought.

A good analogy would be Times Square. It took some time to run the sleaze away, but that "urban renewal" project went from sex to upscale. I'm sure those who frequented the sex havens there were similarly ****ed about the changes, just as you and your friends are.

If you weren't so defensive and stuck on Sosua as a sex tourist town, you might have understood what I---and the MoT---meant. YOU see nothing wrong with Sosua, but I suspect you are in a tiny minority. I do know that a majority of middle and upper-class Dominicans will not frequent Sosua or Boca Chica.

I think we're done here.

 

[GuillermoRamon]

"Urban Renewal" is a generic term for tearing down and rebuilding. .

I think we're done here.

Where am I "defensive and stuck on Sosua as a sex tourist town" exactly? Considering I literally just wrote a post stating I don't care which way the town goes...Only one person here posting Non sequitur "info" from the MoT , just enough to sound like you know what you are talking about, then "magically" have no details around it, and also wouldn't do what anybody else with half a brain would do with "insider information", which would be to buy...

Yep, we are definitely done here, come back with REAL info...

 

[dv8]

yeah, you two are really done here. engaging in further arguments will not end well, mark my words.

 

[Wishing you well]

That's why they closed the Bermuda bar on the corner? Hermann was collecting salidas?

Certainly you know that because a friend just happened to mentioned it, right?

Have got to love the virtues of this little town - Sosua.

 

[Lobo Tropical]

"Urban Renewal" is a generic term for tearing down and rebuilding. This is what, I assume because of the context in which the term was used, they meant.

I have seen many such projects in my life. They always start with a concept before plans are drawn up, and developers sought.

A good analogy would be Times Square. It took some time to run the sleaze away, but that "urban renewal" project went from sex to upscale. I'm sure those who frequented the sex havens there were similarly ****ed about the changes, just as you and your friends are.

If you weren't so defensive and stuck on Sosua as a sex tourist town, you might have understood what I---and the MoT---meant. YOU see nothing wrong with Sosua, but I suspect you are in a tiny minority. I do know that a majority of middle and upper-class Dominicans will not frequent Sosua or Boca Chica.

I think we're done here.

Funny how you always mention your illustrious business career in the US.
And now in the DR scratching
Out a living you never fail to mention your high level DR connections.
As for Sosua as a sex destination, laughable.
Anyone with a quarter brain function and in a wheelchair can meet women anywhere in the DR.

 

[bob saunders]

Funny how you always mention your illustrious business career in the US.
And now in the DR scratching
Out a living you never fail to mention your high level DR connections.
As for Sosua as a sex destination, laughable.
Anyone with a quarter brain function and in a wheelchair can meet women anywhere in the DR.

How do YOU know if he's scatching out a living? There are women, and then there are desireable women, apparently anyone will do for you.

 

[Expat13]

Holy S...... Now i know why i took such a long break from this forum. Is it possible to post here without engaging a "keyboard war" or critiqued by spelling, grammar or points of view.

 

[dv8]

Holy S...... Now i know why i took such a long break from this forum. Is it possible to post here without engaging a "keyboard war" or critiqued by spelling, grammar or points of view.

the subject of sosua always tends to flush out some dirt into the kindergarten sand pit. it's kinda fun to see the toddlers clutch their tiny fists. mama does allow a bit of shoving and pushing, it makes the tension go away and they sleep better.

 

[Expat13]

the subject of sosua always tends to flush out some dirt into the kindergarten sand pit. it's kinda fun to see the toddlers clutch their tiny fists. mama does allow a bit of shoving and pushing, it makes the tension go away and they sleep better.

Sadly I have seen this in multiple threads.

 

[windeguy]

Two cruise ports in Pto. Plata(?). What sense does that make?

A lot of sense if you read about the supply and demand for cruises. Huge cruise boats are in the works for the new cruise port. And it is a competing company to the one in Amber Cove. These people don't do this because there is no money to be made. It is big money.

 

[windeguy]

http://www.ahnveeresort.com/

That's a short list. How are they doing?

Just drove by there moments ago. Looks DEAD...

 

[GuillermoRamon]

Just drove by there moments ago. Looks DEAD...

Again, I'd love to know the year round stats behind that place, I can see Summer being slow, but really curious about high season...

 

[windeguy]

Sosua, Dominican Republic.- Justice minister Jean A. Rodríguez headed extensive raids an searches in the towns Sosúa and Cabarete over the weekend, which included 10 night clubs linked to pimping.

The raids by the Puerto Plata anti-trafficking authorities, the Defense Ministry, and the Tourism Police carried out the raids, rescued 70 women, shuttered two businesses, and arrested their owners.

In a statement, the Justice Ministry said it shuttered the Restaurant Bar Pica Flor and Bar Restaurante Barrio Latino, located in Sosúa and Cabarete, owned by the couple, Elvis Henríquez, (El Peje), and Arisleida Pérez.





https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local...0-pimp-clubs-rescue-70-women-in-puerto-plata/