Attacked and Left for Dead at a Dominican Republic All-Inclusive Resort

[jimmythegreek]

Ignore these Trolls on here. They have no idea how things work. Most of them do not have even an iota of an idea how it works here.

1.) Why would you go to the embassy when A.) your sitting in the hospital for days, and B.) the police and so-called detectives came to the hospital and took down her story and no doubt re-assured her that they are working on her case.

2.) How could she--or any other tourists--know that it does not work like it does in the USA where you have Forensic detectives and specialists sent to the crime scene where they dust, collect, and scan for forensic evidence.

3.) Anyone in her shoes would be thinking, "Thank god the police and authorities are on it!" At this point, you only want to get the hell out of here and go home and let the police, detectives, forensic specialists & prosecutors do their work.

4.) After you see that the police and investigators are on it, no one is thinking, "I want to go to the US embassy and stand in a long line from hell, wait for who knows how long to talk to someone, and wait to hear what they can or cannot do for your situation, etc.

5.) How can any tourists know how inept the investigations & forensic team are here? They only know how it works in their own country.

In 2008 i was arrested with four other Dominican men for a murder of a girl. When the investigation team brought me in for questioning, they asked me good questions. They wanted to know every detail of my whereabouts on the day of the murder (4-days earlier). So far, so good. But they never checked me or the other four men for any evidence. They did not check us for fingerprints. They did not check us for blood splatter on our clothes or shoes, no DNA, no fingerprints, no footprints, or any other potential incriminating evidence that could link us to the crime..,not a request for even one single piece of evidence fro us...let that sink in.

When they told me i was a suspect, i said, "Sure no problem, but can i make a suggestion?" i asked.

"Sure, what is it?"

"You might want to have all the potential suspects disrobe and check for any scratches," I suggested.

"Why? they asked.

"Why!? Because, if the girl was stabbed to death--as you have already mentioned--then she would have tried to defend herself and she most likely would have scratched the culprit in the process, no?"

They just waved their hand and dismissed my suggestion altogether.

I asked the other suspects, "Were any of you guys asked to take your shirt off or made to show anything to the investigators?"

"No," they answered, wondering why?

No one seemed to understand why they would check for scratches and defensive wounds!!

"Did they check any of your clothes for blood?" I asked.

"No," they answered.

"Did any of the police come over to your houses and check for anything...shoes, clothes, knives, etc....anything at all!?"

"No."

So, right there, in a Dominican nutshell, you have the fabulous Dominican team of forensic specialists working on your behalf.

Absolutely and exactly what I experienced repeatedly going to the so called 'Fiscalia'.

1. Car vandalized with acid destroying the paint. Zero forensic investigation of the crime scene & evidence by the 'Fiscalia'.

2. Glue put in the locks of several doors to the entry of my home. Zero forensic investigation of the crime scene & evidence by the 'Fiscalia'

3. Criminal death threat left at my door and full video of the event brought straight to the face of the coordinator in the 'Fiscalia'. Zero forenisc investigation by the so called 'Fiscalia' of the video evidence nor the actual criminal death threat note-never fingerprinted at all.

I even offered to buy them lie detector equipment to question the suspects. They politely denied the offer as that would be getting to close to having to do their job and can't get the backdoor money pay off by getting to the truth-LOL.

 

[jimmythegreek]

I hope the DR police forces put the same amount of effort into the investigation as the core group on here has put into speculating?

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[jimmythegreek]

I can feel the lady's story is real just by the fact she was left spinning her wheels for months on end going through the insanity of this Fiscalia-"Ministerio Publico". I can tell you as a fact that I went through the same process as she did with a criminal death threat. Complete runaround game that leads to nowhere and lets criminals easily walk. Fortunately, in my own case, no one has been harmed yet, but these coordinators in these offices are like air traffic controllers or pilots abrogating their responsibilities thereby putting lives potentially in danger. Their conciliatory stage fake judge nonsense does not conform with Articles 259, 260 nor 261 of the codigo procesal penal.

"El procedimiento penal dominicano registra cinco etapas. La preparatoria, preliminar, juicio oral, fase recursiva y fase de ejecución de la penal. No existe la fase conciliatoria."

Does Caonabo work at the Fiscalia or Procuraduria? LOL.

 

[Big]

Would love to know what they offered her

I bet not much, other wise they would have every other scam artist tourist with a hangover claiming food poisoning and seeking a discount.

 

[Tom0910]

Could just be poor upbringing. Some people just don't know how to dress for anything.

If I had a dollar for every time my Dad said "Go back in your room and put on a shirt with a collar"... I'd be rich.

What a ridiculous statement,how a person dresses has nothing to do with one's upbringing or anything else for that matter. I sold my business at a very young age for 8 figures and retired,I didn't dress to impress while I was working nor did I require any of my 120 employees and half of them were office staff. I don't own a single shirt with a button on it,I own one pair of black khakis in case I have to go to a funeral,I can't remember the last time I wore long pants of any kind otherwise and never leave the house without a baseball hat on,even to my lawyers office. And I assure you that I had a very good upbringing.

 

[Derfish]

Ignore these Trolls on here. They have no idea how things work. Most of them do not have even an iota of an idea how it works here.

1.) Why would you go to the embassy when A.) your sitting in the hospital for days, and B.) the police and so-called detectives came to the hospital and took down her story and no doubt re-assured her that they are working on her case.

2.) How could she--or any other tourists--know that it does not work like it does in the USA where you have Forensic detectives and specialists sent to the crime scene where they dust, collect, and scan for forensic evidence.

3.) Anyone in her shoes would be thinking, "Thank god the police and authorities are on it!" At this point, you only want to get the hell out of here and go home and let the police, detectives, forensic specialists & prosecutors do their work.

4.) After you see that the police and investigators are on it, no one is thinking, "I want to go to the US embassy and stand in a long line from hell, wait for who knows how long to talk to someone, and wait to hear what they can or cannot do for your situation, etc.

5.) How can any tourists know how inept the investigations & forensic team are here? They only know how it works in their own country.

In 2008 i was arrested with four other Dominican men for a murder of a girl. When the investigation team brought me in for questioning, they asked me good questions. They wanted to know every detail of my whereabouts on the day of the murder (4-days earlier). So far, so good. But they never checked me or the other four men for any evidence. They did not check us for fingerprints. They did not check us for blood splatter on our clothes or shoes, no DNA, no fingerprints, no footprints, or any other potential incriminating evidence that could link us to the crime..,not a request for even one single piece of evidence fro us...let that sink in.

When they told me i was a suspect, i said, "Sure no problem, but can i make a suggestion?" i asked.

"Sure, what is it?"

"You might want to have all the potential suspects disrobe and check for any scratches," I suggested.

"Why? they asked.

"Why!? Because, if the girl was stabbed to death--as you have already mentioned--then she would have tried to defend herself and she most likely would have scratched the culprit in the process, no?"

They just waved their hand and dismissed my suggestion altogether.

I asked the other suspects, "Were any of you guys asked to take your shirt off or made to show anything to the investigators?"

"No," they answered, wondering why?

No one seemed to understand why they would check for scratches and defensive wounds!!

"Did they check any of your clothes for blood?" I asked.

"No," they answered.

"Did any of the police come over to your houses and check for anything...shoes, clothes, knives, etc....anything at all!?"

"No."

So, right there, in a Dominican nutshell, you have the fabulous Dominican team of forensic specialists working on your behalf.

Maybe Dominican detectives should watch more USA TV

 

[suarezj519]

Luckily (so far) I have never been a victim of anything in the DR and hope never to be one. Every day I worry about my wife there while I'm stuck here in the states. As a male I have practiced caution anywhere I go, whether in DR or here. I remember having to walk home at night in SD from work and although it was in a considered nice area (naco) I was the only one on the street for at least a good distance. Don't think I was ever so freaked out in my life. This poor lady was attacked, yes that's a fact. Whether by an employee or some crazy mofo is still to be seen and unfortunately unless something like this happens again there, there won't be any resolution to this. There'll be some decrease in tourism for a bit, but it'll most likely pick up again as long as this isn't a regular occurrence. I'll always be a believer that the DR is relatively safe in most parts, but I'm not naive to knowing that since the police doesn't do their job, that if I am attacked, or whatever that I'm basically screwed in ever getting any type of justice.

 

[jeb321]

First true statement you have made on this whole thread ..

and why in the world are you giving dislikes to Posters who merely post a Google Translation of an article ??
that makes even less sense than your posts .

To the troll. Read a bit more carefully.

 

[bob saunders]

What a ridiculous statement,how a person dresses has nothing to do with one's upbringing or anything else for that matter. I sold my business at a very young age for 8 figures and retired,I didn't dress to impress while I was working nor did I require any of my 120 employees and half of them were office staff. I don't own a single shirt with a button on it,I own one pair of black khakis in case I have to go to a funeral,I can't remember the last time I wore long pants of any kind otherwise and never leave the house without a baseball hat on,even to my lawyers office. And I assure you that I had a very good upbringing.

Some kids you can try to teach things to but they are resistant to learning. LOL. Each to their own, I wore baseball hats when I played baseball and when I worked in the air force ( mandatory to wear a squadron ball cap) I almost always wear golf shirts, but my father would be caught dead in a short sleeve shirt or tshirt, mainly because he always lived where there were hords of mosquitoes and black flies. I agree that what the husband was wearing for the interview really doesn't mean too much. I personally would have dressed more formally.

 

[Big]

I think what was trying to be conveyed was that his attire was disrespectful and inappropriate for making a statement on such an important issue. It wasn't a surprise interview. It shows a lack of respect for his wife, himself and the people doing the interview. I wear beach wear to the beach, casual wear to the golf course. If anyone invites me to thier casa, it's long pants, dress shirt and dress shoes.

 

[flyinroom]

Does everybody know that the hotel can trace the exact times that people enter and exit their room?
If it is a staff member they know that too.
Did the clients who are accusing the hotel employee know that?
Did their timelines support their story?
So many questions.
There are so many reasons why the hotel may not have bought their accusation.

 

[badpiece33]

Absolutely and exactly what I experienced repeatedly going to the so called 'Fiscalia'.

1. Car vandalized with acid destroying the paint. Zero forensic investigation of the crime scene & evidence by the 'Fiscalia'.

2. Glue put in the locks of several doors to the entry of my home. Zero forensic investigation of the crime scene & evidence by the 'Fiscalia'

3. Criminal death threat left at my door and full video of the event brought straight to the face of the coordinator in the 'Fiscalia'. Zero forenisc investigation by the so called 'Fiscalia' of the video evidence nor the actual criminal death threat note-never fingerprinted at all.

I even offered to buy them lie detector equipment to question the suspects. They politely denied the offer as that would be getting to close to having to do their job and can't get the backdoor money pay off by getting to the truth-LOL.

You think you would get forensic evidence for the things you described above in NYC for example? The answer is no , so why would you expect the DR to do it?

 

[Jumbo]

Did not bother reading the whole 36 pages so if stated before my bad. Question is....How many times have women been assaulted at DR resorts? This incident has gone viral. How many women have not bothered to post on Facebook that they got drunk and raped at an AI. By no way is this a Jusse scam. Do not be surprised if many women start coming out with their past horror stories while on vacation in the DR...

 

[jd426]

Did not bother reading the whole 36 pages so if stated before my bad. Question is....How many times have women been assaulted at DR resorts? This incident has gone viral. How many women have not bothered to post on Facebook that they got drunk and raped at an AI. By no way is this a Jusse scam. Do not be surprised if many women start coming out with their past horror stories while on vacation in the DR...

The whole country of the DR is not a Bill Cosby Scenario. If this were going on in the whole country, inside AI's no less, it would be common knowledge . The DR is known for Sanky Pankies & dudes who play the Long game with Gullible lonely Women,
not Psychopaths running around beating 50 year old Gringas almost to death with absolutely no motive in sight
, it it were , you would not be safe from the moment the plane landed ( as Gorgon said earlier in his post) .. not just inside the safe walls of the AI..
Now if they CATCH the guy,, other women certainly could come forward .

But who knows maybe some of you are right .. maybe THIS is the whistle blower who completely takes down Tourism to Punta Cana ..
(anyone buying that ?)

 

[cobraboy]

I think you meant to say, "It's so much better to trash the victim. You have No IDEA what they did."

Correct me if I am wrong...you and your Arm Chair Conservative Internet Cowboys are Trolling and blaming the victim.

That's what you guys do---day in, and day out. "Trolling" is what Trolls are good at.

Well, frank, speaking for myself I have not once "trashed" anybody, unless stating waiting for actual facts is "trashing" in your world.

 

[cobraboy]

Perhaps Polar Bear can attest to the investigative and forensic abilities of the PN, and that happened a few years ago.

 

[rfp]

I think you meant to say, "It's so much better to trash the victim. You have No IDEA what they did."

Correct me if I am wrong...you and your Arm Chair Conservative Internet Cowboys are Trolling and blaming the victim.

That's what you guys do---day in, and day out. "Trolling" is what Trolls are good at.

Interesting that you are jumping on the side of the white american women, who is blaming an "unidentified" poc for a suspicious crime.


I dont think its just conservatives who are calling out this narrative and defending the still unidentified, poor , marginalized person of color.

Conservative compassion embodies true christian values

 

[KyleMackey]

Interesting that you are jumping on the side of the white american women, who is blaming an "unidentified" poc for a suspicious crime.


I dont think its just conservatives who are calling out this narrative and defending the still unidentified, poor , marginalized person of color.

Conservative compassion embodies true christian values

What race/color have to do with anything here?

 

[frank12]

Interesting that you are jumping on the side of the white american women, who is blaming an "unidentified" poc for a suspicious crime.


I dont think its just conservatives who are calling out this narrative and defending the still unidentified, poor , marginalized person of color.

Conservative compassion embodies true christian values

You bring up a good point, and it maybe it needs addressed and perhaps apologies are in order.

We know from off-topic what everyone's political affiliations are here. Eight years of arguing with one another does that! We know who thinks what, why, and how. We know where our allegiances stand on nearly every single topic and issue out there.

With that said, you are right, some people--but not many--are on the opposite sides of the fence here. However, looking at the people on the far right, they have generally aligned themselves with blaming the victim. The people that generally align themselves to the left have, on the most part, aligned themselves in support of the victim--and give her the benefit of doubt.

Since we know each other's parties affiliation and politics pretty well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to extrapolate who is on side of the fence of blaming the victim vs giving the victim the benefit of doubt.

There are exceptions here, just like there are in any discussion, but generally speaking, the right blame the victim, and the left support the victim and give her the benefit of doubt until further information is known.

Personally, i give her the benefit of doubt until i have reason not too.

 

[cavok]

You bring up a good point, and it maybe it needs addressed and perhaps apologies are in order.

We know from off-topic what everyone's political affiliations are here. Eight years of arguing with one another does that! We know who thinks what, why, and how. We know where our allegiances stand on nearly every single topic and issue out there.

With that said, you are right, some people--but not many--are on the opposite sides of the fence here. However, looking at the people on the far right, they have generally aligned themselves with blaming the victim. The people that generally align themselves to the left have, on the most part, aligned themselves in support of the victim--and give her the benefit of doubt.

Since we know each other's parties affiliation and politics pretty well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to extrapolate who is on side of the fence of blaming the victim vs giving the victim the benefit of doubt.

There are exceptions here, just like there are in any discussion, but generally speaking, the right blame the victim, and the left support the victim and give her the benefit of doubt until further information is known.

Personally, i give her the benefit of doubt until i have reason not too.

I haven't seen anyone "blaming" the victim. Some posters are questioning who the assailant was. Even the police still consider the husband a suspect.