The future of Sosua

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Big

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Yeah sure, guess Marriott also owns Urban Cabana on DR Rosen, breaking into the hourly market
 

windeguy

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Big, you appear to be a member of the nothing really changes club. And I do appreciate that view point being full time here since 2003 where any real change is hard to find. I have certainly seen the change in the major decline in tourism over the years on the north coast.

But when the high end Marriott branded hotel is open, the hookers are at the east end of Pedro Clisante, everyone is having a High Caribe time, and those ladies of the evening are chased away from being on the west end while using the Ahnvee Resort (built with amazing foresight) for "active" couples, perhaps you will recognize there were changes made.

At least the town of Sosua will be able to continue to survive based upon the work of a a few hundred hookers that can continue to support the 50,000 other people throughout all of Sosua by their thoughtful backbreaking profession, all the while being a bit more out of sight. As for the tourists at levels like before in Sosua or Cabarete, I do not expect that change. Somehow life will carry on.
 

Big

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Ahnvee built with amazing foresight ?? its a 50 dollar a night hotel down the street from a 28 dollar a night hotel.
We will never see a Marriott branded hotel in Sosua ( Renaissance, JW Marriott, Ritz, Westin, St Regis, W Hotels) they will not sully their name and selling rooms for 50 bucks is not going to turn a profit. Can you see Marriott advertising rooms that are "chica friendly" with condoms and lotion on the pillow tops instead of chocolates. Further, the Marriott brand caters to businessmen with meeting and banquet facilities, there is next to zero industry located near Sosua to sustain their investment in that market. I do like Sosua beach, however it has clearly taken a big hit. Many of the beach casitas have closed and are now trash receptacles, just like the vacant lots in town. Trash removal is one of the most basic services that the gov should provide, in NYC the mob runs it, maybe that's what Sosua needs
 

chico bill

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Ahnvee built with amazing foresight ?? its a 50 dollar a night hotel down the street from a 28 dollar a night hotel.
We will never see a Marriott branded hotel in Sosua ( Renaissance, JW Marriott, Ritz, Westin, St Regis, W Hotels) they will not sully their name and selling rooms for 50 bucks is not going to turn a profit. Can you see Marriott advertising rooms that are "chica friendly" with condoms and lotion on the pillow tops instead of chocolates. Further, the Marriott brand caters to businessmen with meeting and banquet facilities, there is next to zero industry located near Sosua to sustain their investment in that market. I do like Sosua beach, however it has clearly taken a big hit. Many of the beach casitas have closed and are now trash receptacles, just like the vacant lots in town. Trash removal is one of the most basic services that the gov should provide, in NYC the mob runs it, maybe that's what Sosua needs

Sosua already has mobs:
Cestur, PN among others
 

Caonabo

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With apologies to Hank Williams Jr.....

Monger Man Can Survive

The DR1 man says it's the end of time
And the Pedro Clisante, she's a-goin' dry
The flight prices are up and the talent is down
And you only get mugged if you leave downtown
I live back in the campos you see
My women, their kids, and the dogs and me
I got a muscle tee, and an ED pill
throwin' on my fake crocks to go and chill
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
We can walk the strip all day long
We can catch crabs from dusk till dawn (Yeah)
We buy the mamajuana and the fake cubans too
Ain't too many things us old mongers won't do
We spread good ole cheer and infections too
Ain't too many things us old mongers can't do
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
Because you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old mongers raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn
We arrive on West Jet
And Jet Blue,
If you are on a budget, you can too
And we can skin a hide, we can run a twerk line
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
I had a good friend in Atlanta City
He never called me by my name, just mocked with pity
My grandpa taught me how to live off this strip
And his taught him how to report on a trip
He used to send me pictures of Cabarete kites
And I'd send him mine of Passions and City Lights
But he got rolled by a chica with a gillette blade
For forty-three dollars my friend lost his Tag
I'd love to spit some Presidente in that whore's eyes
And shoot her with my imaginary forty-five
'Cause a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
'Cause you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old men raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn
We're from North Carolina and South Brunswick
And little towns all around this land
And we can skin a hide, and run a twerk line
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
They say the red lights they are a comin'
I sit back, laugh,
and say that would be somethin'
Nothin' changes here it never has,
Give me 'nother shot of that razzmatazz
A monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
Rented me my villa in Hispanola
'nuthin is gonna change, it's all crapola
They say I'm in denial, I don't know,
but hey, whatever did happen to Club Flow
A monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
'Cause you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old men raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn
 

Big

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With apologies to Hank Williams Jr.....

Monger Man Can Survive

The DR1 man says it's the end of time
And the Pedro Clisante, she's a-goin' dry
The flight prices are up and the talent is down
And you only get mugged if you leave downtown
I live back in the campos you see
My women, their kids, and the dogs and me
I got a muscle tee, and an ED pill
throwin' on my fake crocks to go and chill
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
We can walk the strip all day long
We can catch crabs from dusk till dawn (Yeah)
We buy the mamajuana and the fake cubans too
Ain't too many things us old mongers won't do
We spread good ole cheer and infections too
Ain't too many things us old mongers can't do
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
Because you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old mongers raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn
We arrive on West Jet
And Jet Blue,
If you are on a budget, you can too
And we can skin a hide, we can run a twerk line
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
I had a good friend in Atlanta City
He never called me by my name, just mocked with pity
My grandpa taught me how to live off this strip
And his taught him how to report on a trip
He used to send me pictures of Cabarete kites
And I'd send him mine of Passions and City Lights
But he got rolled by a chica with a gillette blade
For forty-three dollars my friend lost his Tag
I'd love to spit some Presidente in that whore's eyes
And shoot her with my imaginary forty-five
'Cause a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
'Cause you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old men raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn
We're from North Carolina and South Brunswick
And little towns all around this land
And we can skin a hide, and run a twerk line
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
They say the red lights they are a comin'
I sit back, laugh,
and say that would be somethin'
Nothin' changes here it never has,
Give me 'nother shot of that razzmatazz
A monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
Rented me my villa in Hispanola
'nuthin is gonna change, it's all crapola
They say I'm in denial, I don't know,
but hey, whatever did happen to Club Flow
A monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
'Cause you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old men raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn

lmao, my man you got skills !!
 

KyleMackey

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With apologies to Hank Williams Jr.....

Monger Man Can Survive

The DR1 man says it's the end of time
And the Pedro Clisante, she's a-goin' dry
The flight prices are up and the talent is down
And you only get mugged if you leave downtown
I live back in the campos you see
My women, their kids, and the dogs and me
I got a muscle tee, and an ED pill
throwin' on my fake crocks to go and chill
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
We can walk the strip all day long
We can catch crabs from dusk till dawn (Yeah)
We buy the mamajuana and the fake cubans too
Ain't too many things us old mongers won't do
We spread good ole cheer and infections too
Ain't too many things us old mongers can't do
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
Because you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old mongers raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn
We arrive on West Jet
And Jet Blue,
If you are on a budget, you can too
And we can skin a hide, we can run a twerk line
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
I had a good friend in Atlanta City
He never called me by my name, just mocked with pity
My grandpa taught me how to live off this strip
And his taught him how to report on a trip
He used to send me pictures of Cabarete kites
And I'd send him mine of Passions and City Lights
But he got rolled by a chica with a gillette blade
For forty-three dollars my friend lost his Tag
I'd love to spit some Presidente in that whore's eyes
And shoot her with my imaginary forty-five
'Cause a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
'Cause you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old men raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn
We're from North Carolina and South Brunswick
And little towns all around this land
And we can skin a hide, and run a twerk line
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
They say the red lights they are a comin'
I sit back, laugh,
and say that would be somethin'
Nothin' changes here it never has,
Give me 'nother shot of that razzmatazz
A monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
Rented me my villa in Hispanola
'nuthin is gonna change, it's all crapola
They say I'm in denial, I don't know,
but hey, whatever did happen to Club Flow
A monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
'Cause you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old men raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn

;) lol
 

CristoRey

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With apologies to Hank Williams Jr.....

Monger Man Can Survive

The DR1 man says it's the end of time
And the Pedro Clisante, she's a-goin' dry
The flight prices are up and the talent is down
And you only get mugged if you leave downtown
I live back in the campos you see
My women, their kids, and the dogs and me
I got a muscle tee, and an ED pill
throwin' on my fake crocks to go and chill
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
We can walk the strip all day long
We can catch crabs from dusk till dawn (Yeah)
We buy the mamajuana and the fake cubans too
Ain't too many things us old mongers won't do
We spread good ole cheer and infections too
Ain't too many things us old mongers can't do
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
Because you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old mongers raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn
We arrive on West Jet
And Jet Blue,
If you are on a budget, you can too
And we can skin a hide, we can run a twerk line
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
I had a good friend in Atlanta City
He never called me by my name, just mocked with pity
My grandpa taught me how to live off this strip
And his taught him how to report on a trip
He used to send me pictures of Cabarete kites
And I'd send him mine of Passions and City Lights
But he got rolled by a chica with a gillette blade
For forty-three dollars my friend lost his Tag
I'd love to spit some Presidente in that whore's eyes
And shoot her with my imaginary forty-five
'Cause a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
'Cause you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old men raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn
We're from North Carolina and South Brunswick
And little towns all around this land
And we can skin a hide, and run a twerk line
And a monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
They say the red lights they are a comin'
I sit back, laugh,
and say that would be somethin'
Nothin' changes here it never has,
Give me 'nother shot of that razzmatazz
A monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
Rented me my villa in Hispanola
'nuthin is gonna change, it's all crapola
They say I'm in denial, I don't know,
but hey, whatever did happen to Club Flow
A monger man can survive
Monger folks can survive
'Cause you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run
'Cause we're them old men raised on threesomes
We say mira, and we say hola
If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn

Most entertaining post of the year.
Bravo!

Some countries which have been notorious for
hosting hoards of "mongers" aka sex tourist,
for decades, have recently starting making it
very difficult for them to carry on with
promoting their "monger" lifestyle while vacationing
within their country. It will be interesting to see just
how far the DR Government is willing to go in order
to clean up Sosua's image.

Personally I have no problem with it as I believe it
would make Sosua a much nicer place to reside. Hell,
if they cleaned it up completely I may even consider
moving back up there one day.:laugh:
 
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Big

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Most entertaining post of the year.
Bravo!

Some countries which have been notorious for
hosting hoards of "mongers" aka sex tourist,
for decades, have recently starting making it
very difficult for them to carry on with
promoting their "monger" lifestyle while vacationing
within their country. It will be interesting to see just
how far the DR Government is willing to go in order
to clean up Sosua's image.

Personally I have no problem with it as I believe it
would make Sosua a much nicer place to reside. Hell,
if they cleaned it up completely I may even consider
moving back up there one day.:laugh:

they will ban mongering in Sosua right after Amsterdam, Thiland, Bangkok, Rio, Tijuana, Russia, Dubai, Kenya ...Aruba...all massive destinations for the tourist seeking companship
 

windeguy

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Ahnvee built with amazing foresight ?? its a 50 dollar a night hotel down the street from a 28 dollar a night hotel.
We will never see a Marriott branded hotel in Sosua ( Renaissance, JW Marriott, Ritz, Westin, St Regis, W Hotels) they will not sully their name and selling rooms for 50 bucks is not going to turn a profit. Can you see Marriott advertising rooms that are "chica friendly" with condoms and lotion on the pillow tops instead of chocolates. Further, the Marriott brand caters to businessmen with meeting and banquet facilities, there is next to zero industry located near Sosua to sustain their investment in that market. I do like Sosua beach, however it has clearly taken a big hit. Many of the beach casitas have closed and are now trash receptacles, just like the vacant lots in town. Trash removal is one of the most basic services that the gov should provide, in NYC the mob runs it, maybe that's what Sosua needs

Ahnvee did not start out with such low aspirations. It was a huge mistake that was made by Scientologists to choose that site to redevelop. Now they may end up being the focus of whore central through no fault of their own.

The Marriott branded hotel down the street from Bologna (which was a Ganesvoort) has been announced by press releases from Marriott. I expect they will open it , but I have no illusions of how long it will last.

Keep in mind there are VERY expensive hotels on the north coast of the DR. East of Sosua. Far east of Sosua. Ones the vast majority of people have never even heard of. They are not about business, but rather for recreation of the 1 Per Centers. And there are some rather pricey hotels in Cabarete like UltraViolet and Millenium (where Sir Richard Branson stays when he kite surfs here) . Look up their nightly rates. They have been there for several years now. All of them are more expensive then I was ever allowed to stay at while I was on expense account.

Nobody ever said mongers would be banned.
 

Big

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The Millennium is a nice property, stayed there on many occasions, it's about 100 bucks a night, and more importantly it's chica friendly.
 

Caonabo

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Holy krap, that was GOOD ... how long that take you ?

I take no credit, but in any matter, thank you.
Rather, it has everything to do with Hank Williams Jr. and a very good friend of mine who suggested the song whilst we were playing the 13th hole of the Macau Golf and Country Club. I had asked if he knew of a tune that could appeal to a bunch of people who are firmly entrenched in their respective positions and fail to come up for air or daylight, regardless of the circumstances. Instead of continuing the trend of argumentative discourse, I figured a bit of good natured levity might be in order.
 

Caonabo

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Most entertaining post of the year.
Bravo!

Some countries which have been notorious for
hosting hoards of "mongers" aka sex tourist,
for decades, have recently starting making it
very difficult for them to carry on with
promoting their "monger" lifestyle while vacationing
within their country. It will be interesting to see just
how far the DR Government is willing to go in order
to clean up Sosua's image.

Personally I have no problem with it as I believe it
would make Sosua a much nicer place to reside. Hell,
if they cleaned it up completely I may even consider
moving back up there one day.:laugh:

Actually, you are 100% correct.
The model being used is one that was successful in Quito, Ecuador.
Quito suffered the same problem for a very long time. They were successful in channeling their blight, and guess what? Tourists and families returned to the city center. Tourism has rejuvenated the economic engine of that locale, not the opposite.
 

Caonabo

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Ahnvee did not start out with such low aspirations. It was a huge mistake that was made by Scientologists to choose that site to redevelop. Now they may end up being the focus of whore central through no fault of their own.

The Marriott branded hotel down the street from Bologna (which was a Ganesvoort) has been announced by press releases from Marriott. I expect they will open it , but I have no illusions of how long it will last.

Keep in mind there are VERY expensive hotels on the north coast of the DR. East of Sosua. Far east of Sosua. Ones the vast majority of people have never even heard of. They are not about business, but rather for recreation of the 1 Per Centers. And there are some rather pricey hotels in Cabarete like UltraViolet and Millenium (where Sir Richard Branson stays when he kite surfs here) . Look up their nightly rates. They have been there for several years now. All of them are more expensive then I was ever allowed to stay at while I was on expense account.

Nobody ever said mongers would be banned.

Not all croc wearing mongers are created equal. Some, actually, can afford the real ones.
 

windeguy

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Actually, you are 100% correct.
The model being used is one that was successful in Quito, Ecuador.
Quito suffered the same problem for a very long time. They were successful in channeling their blight, and guess what? Tourists and families returned to the city center. Tourism has rejuvenated the economic engine of that locale, not the opposite.

Nobody on this forum is going to believe that.
 

wrecksum

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For us 'end of the street' dwellers near the new zone, the biggest annoyance will be the horrendous increase in motoconcho traffic at all hours of the night.

Raucous,stinking two-strokes with no muffler, lights or brakes driven by drugged - up delinquents..
Had already become worse since they tarmacked the area.

God! How much I hate them already......
 

Caonabo

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The Millennium is a nice property, stayed there on many occasions, it's about 100 bucks a night, and more importantly it's chica friendly.

It would seem that a person who is firmly entrenched with the true belief of their narrative, would not have to constantly reprise it. We understand. You are having fun. For how much longer as in it's past or current state is the topic.
 
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