COVID Passport Discussion

[aarhus]

I got first jab of Sinovac today at University Unphu in Santo Domingo. Very well organized there. I think the DR is doing a good job with this. A passport is not realistic though. I don’t think they would be able to manage it. I signed up on the website in March and never heard back. So I just went today.

 

[CristoRey]

I got first jab of Sinovac today at University Unphu in Santo Domingo. Very well organized there. I think the DR is doing a good job with this. A passport is not realistic though. I don’t think they would be able to manage it. I signed up on the website in March and never heard back. So I just went today.

Not sure how a passport would work as it would have to be accepted by more than a few countries.
Logistics would be a real head ache. Sounds more like something airlines would be interested in implementing
than governments, quite costly for governments to set up and monitor as well.

 

[aarhus]

Not sure how a passport would work as it would have to be accepted by more than a few countries.
Logistics would be a real head ache. Sounds more like something airlines would be interested in implementing
than governments, quite costly for governments to set up and monitor as well.

yes I don’t believe in it personally but some countries apparently are implementing it. For travel it does make some sense.

 

[Big]

I think they should ban fat people from air travel as well, unless they have a thyroid condition

 

[DR fan1990]

This vaccine passport technology will ultimately lead to this.

AI warning: Life will be like Orwell's 1984 'without curbs on AI'

It is going to be difficult for lawmakers to catch up with rapidly advancing AI technology, Brad Smith told BBC Panorama during an episode exploring China's increasing use of AI to monitor its citizens.

www.google.com

 

[NanSanPedro]

A sign of things to come(?):

'No-vax tax' increases concert ticket prices fifty-fold for unvaccinated

With new CDC guidelines, concerts are starting to come back to Florida, but for at least one show, the ABC Action News I-Team has learned your COVID-19 vaccination status will determine how much you pay to attend.

www.abcactionnews.com

How is it enforceable? Anyone can say they have the vax. Because of HIPPA, they can't ask you to prove it.

 

[chico bill]

How about a herpes-free passport too ?

 

[windeguy]

This vaccine passport technology will ultimately lead to this.

AI warning: Life will be like Orwell's 1984 'without curbs on AI'

It is going to be difficult for lawmakers to catch up with rapidly advancing AI technology, Brad Smith told BBC Panorama during an episode exploring China's increasing use of AI to monitor its citizens.

www.google.com

People already travel with passports. Just about anything you want to know about someone can already be found out with a google search or a small additional fee. AI's will get better at correlating all of our data over time with or without pandemics.

 

[windeguy]

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cavok said:
A sign of things to come(?):

'No-vax tax' increases concert ticket prices fifty-fold for unvaccinated​

With new CDC guidelines, concerts are starting to come back to Florida, but for at least one show, the ABC Action News I-Team has learned your COVID-19 vaccination status will determine how much you pay to attend.

www.abcactionnews.com

How is it enforceable? Anyone can say they have the vax. Because of HIPPA, they can't ask you to prove it.

The promoter is not searching your data base. The promoter will demand proof you are vaccinated or you pay $999 for a ticket. Just like all cruise ships will demand proof of vaccination before you board. No HIPPA need be involved.

 

[CristoRey]

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How is it enforceable? Anyone can say they have the vax. Because of HIPPA, they can't ask you to prove it.

The promoter is not searching your data base. The promoter will demand proof you are vaccinated or you pay $999 for a ticket. Just like all cruise ships will demand proof of vaccination before you board. No HIPPA need be involved.

Welcome to the new normal people. The control freaks will be using fear tactics going forward to make sure you comply or face being otracized.

 

[windeguy]

Welcome to the new normal people. The control freaks will be using fear tactics going forward to make sure you comply or face being otracized.

No shirt, no shoes, no service.

Just add another item to the list.

 

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How is it enforceable? Anyone can say they have the vax. Because of HIPPA, they can't ask you to prove it.

The promoter is not searching your data base. The promoter will demand proof you are vaccinated or you pay $999 for a ticket. Just like all cruise ships will demand proof of vaccination before you board. No HIPPA need be involved.

nice pic, are they Portland halfway house grads

 

[cavok]

How is it enforceable? Anyone can say they have the vax. Because of HIPPA, they can't ask you to prove it.

Well over 100 colleges and universities are going to require students to be vaccinated to attend classes this fall:

State-by-state look at colleges requiring COVID-19 vaccines |

The complete list of higher education institutions mandating vaccination for the fall 2021-22 semester.

universitybusiness.com

 

[NanSanPedro]

Well over 100 colleges and universities are going to require students to be vaccinated to attend classes this fall:

State-by-state look at colleges requiring COVID-19 vaccines |

The complete list of higher education institutions mandating vaccination for the fall 2021-22 semester.

universitybusiness.com

What a shame.

 

[AlterEgo]

Seven European countries begin issuing a digital Covid certificate for travel. (Published 2021)

The European Union plans to roll them out to all member states by July 1, and to eventually make them available to travelers from outside the bloc.

www.nytimes.com

 

[playacaribe2]

Well over 100 colleges and universities are going to require students to be vaccinated to attend classes this fall:

State-by-state look at colleges requiring COVID-19 vaccines |

The complete list of higher education institutions mandating vaccination for the fall 2021-22 semester.

universitybusiness.com

The battle lines are being drawn between states and between schools in states that are requiring students to be vaccinated before attending. The legal challenges are being prepared and may ultimately land at the Supreme Court. The basic difference between colleges/universities/restaurants/malls/stores etc., and airlines is two fold.

First there is an alternative to vaccination. Classes can be taken online, shopping can be done online, most everything in everyday life can be done online........one except is flying...........there is no virtual or online flying.

Second, as has been discussed, are the numerous constitutional issues presented. At least in the US, this will likely not ever be enforced..........thus

What appears to not be going forward in the US, nor should it, is the "vaccine" passport to fly. Other countries and certain airlines may impose a "vaccine "passport that is now actually being watered down and simply being referred to as a Covid certificate.......that includes vaccination, a negative test or recovery from Covid (likely implying some sort of immunity).

With few exceptions, a pure "vaccine" passport is never likely to fly............pun intended.


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

 

[aarhus]

The battle lines are being drawn between states and between schools in states that are requiring students to be vaccinated before attending. The legal challenges are being prepared and may ultimately land at the Supreme Court. The basic difference between colleges/universities/restaurants/malls/stores etc., and airlines is two fold.

First there is an alternative to vaccination. Classes can be taken online, shopping can be done online, most everything in everyday life can be done online........one except is flying...........there is no virtual or online flying.

Second, as has been discussed, are the numerous constitutional issues presented. At least in the US, this will likely not ever be enforced..........thus

What appears to not be going forward in the US, nor should it, is the "vaccine" passport to fly. Other countries and certain airlines may impose a "vaccine "passport that is now actually being watered down and simply being referred to as a Covid certificate.......that includes vaccination, a negative test or recovery from Covid (likely implying some sort of immunity).

With few exceptions, a pure "vaccine" passport is never likely to fly............pun intended.


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

Virtual flying? Not yet lol

I don’t understand why they don’t modernize the yellow vaccination passport. It’s used internationally and making it digital internationally would have the advantage of volume wheras each country doing their passports and then afterwards making them work together must be very costly.

 

[Eugene_A]

I don't know about all countries, and I have not seen the Dominican vaccination card either, but the vaccination card they give you in Florida when you get a shot at locations like Walgreens is just a simple piece of paper with your name, birth date, Vaccine name/lot number and the date and the location of the clinic.

I can fake such paper with Photoshop and my printer in 10 minutes.

 

[Eugene_A]

I mean, if you don't want to get vaccinated in DR or anywhere else, but if they start to ask for vaccination card somewhere, you can just print a piece of paper like this, fill it by hand, show it and say that you were vaccinated in Estados Unidos, that's it, no more questions.

You can even laminate it (some people do it in US) so it will be impossible to tell if it's real or fake.

 

[aarhus]

I mean, if you don't want to get vaccinated in DR or anywhere else, but if they start to ask for vaccination card somewhere, you can just print a piece of paper like this, fill it by hand, show it and say that you were vaccinated in Estados Unidos, that's it, no more questions.

You can even laminate it (some people do it in US) so it will be impossible to tell if it's real or fake.

So the Florida version is pretty much like the DR version. In the DR we get Sinovac though. Just approved by WHO. I got first jab yesterday at Unphu. It was very well organized. I hope it was all real lol