No worries. I totally understand what you are saying and have no problem with others living their lives as they see fit. About 20% aren't going to take the vaccine so it doesn't do any good for the 80% to get all worked up about it.
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Problems with Vaccines.. past and present.
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There are a lot of organizations that are taking a lead role since many governments don't want to be seen to be "requiring" a vaccination. I find it strange since we had to have numerous, mandatory, vaccinations since we were born. I can understand some healthy skepticism, but after all the talking points and concerns have been answered it changes to protesting to be contrarian instead of "we have concerns so please give us more info".
The vaccines are safe. Based on decades old research in the case of the mRNA types and even longer for the previous types of vaccines. Failure to accept that and resistance to believing all the experts is ridiculous.
Sooner than later people will be checkmated into taking the shots to be able to work, travel, eat out, go to concerts, etc...
As a businessman I will never ask if a customer or client is vaccinated. As long as his ca$h is good so is his business.
We have a Queen, she is called the 2nd Amendment .. and that is why your prediction will never happen,
.. just like all your other foolishness
You against the world. LOL
It's increasingly clear that businesses and other organizations like universities and the hosts of concerts and sporting events will, in fact already are, requiring proof of vaccination. Countries too and airlines. For those that refuse to get the shots it's about to become a small world
Please do elaborate on how the 2nd amendment has any bearing on Covid in the DR
Even in The States it's not going to be a major factor. Antivaxers gonna lose
https://www.lawfareblog.com/Designed-Public-Vaccination-MandatesVaccine passports less than 2 weeks away for Quebecers
Quebecers will soon be required to show proof of vaccination before sitting down in a restaurant or hitting up the gym.
Vaccination passports will come into effect Sept. 1, with Quebec being the first province to instill this rule on a wide scale.
Taking the form of a QR code accessible through a mobile app, the passports will apply to a number of enclosed public spaces, such as restaurants, theatres, and stores.
Vaccine passports less than 2 weeks away for Quebecers
Quebecers will soon be required to show proof of vaccination before sitting down in a restaurant or hitting up the gym.
IT'S HEEEERRREEEEE................................
Expanding on that a bit, I would add the entire Constitution and the line of Supreme Court cases to the mix as to why you can never be forced into mandatory vaccinations...........certainly not now with none of the vaccines fully approved..............and even after future approval...................just will not happen............not in the US anyway..........
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Playacaribe2
The majority support the use of the Covid vaccines . The majority believe that being vaccinated protects them and other people they encounter to some extent. Govts push this message and society is embracing it. A society can exert its own pressure on its members to conform to its norms of behavior. Those who choose not to follow the collective will be "on the outside". It may not be an easy task to sue your former employer for being terminated because you exercised your choice not to be vaccinated because you don't have an income any longer. Surely society will not accept people brandishing a firearm to gain entry to a restaurant to get dinner service. An armed insurrection against Govt over a vaccine is most unlikely as it just doesn't rise to the level of Govt tyranny that would be needed for most 2nd amendment supporters to start shooting their leaders imo.
The old saying, "Your rights end where my nose begins" would seem to apply in this situation.
The old saying, "Your rights end where my nose begins" would seem to apply in this situation.
You against the world. LOL
It's increasingly clear that businesses and other organizations like universities and the hosts of concerts and sporting events will, in fact already are, requiring proof of vaccination. Countries too and airlines. For those that refuse to get the shots it's about to become a small world
A month ago in the thread Government Will Insist That All Get Vaccinated. I posted something similar.
If he (Abinader) is smart, he will be sure to enlist partnerships with the private sector. They are all in it together after all.
The government needn't always be the bad guy.
The best way to the finish line is with everybody pulling their weight.
I agree with the sentiment that the common good outweighs the recalcitrants' stubborn refusal to play game with the rest of us.
If hiding away in a cave somewhere is what will make them happy and content, I say...
Let them have at it.
This sentiment is tempered with the understanding that there are certainly some people for whom the vaccine is simply not an option and accommodations will have to be made in those cases.
Thankfully their is no tyranny of the majority as recognized by de Tocqueville, Madison and others.
Your last sentence solidifies their reasoning for wanting to guard against it.
No vaccine, past present or future should ever be forced on those who do not want it…..especially those that do not have full approval.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
Where did you get the bright idea that vaccines are being forced or going to be forced on anyone, anywhere?
Yes ma'am you are correct, you completely changed my mind, thank you for showing me the light. Now please find a hobby.You against the world. LOL
It's increasingly clear that businesses and other organizations like universities and the hosts of concerts and sporting events will, in fact already are, requiring proof of vaccination. Countries too and airlines. For those that refuse to get the shots it's about to become a small world
Why right here on DR1. Lots of posts referencing/supporting mandatory vaccinations. Perhaps you might want to read some of them. The search button is a good place to start.
The good news is it will surely not happen in the US…….and likely not in the DR too……but for different reasons.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
I'm probably one of the few remaining who remember that. Without the polio and the TB shot, you did NOT get to go to school.
And those illness's were pretty well wiped out. A small resurgence has occured in some western states due to immagration from central american countries.
Wow, you really dont get it
Is it a Canadian thing ?
Sorry you cant grasp this ... We have a CONSTITUTION.
A BILL OF RIGHTS .
A Balance of POWER, 3 Branches of Govt //
NO ONE has the power to force anyone to get a vaccination..
and for the record , I meant " even at the barrel of a GUN, some will choose to NOT Vaccinate".. and if the Govt Dares to try to force it , they will be met with Deadly force at some point .
No " Insurrection" is needed .. just an absolute refusal to Comply with this " mandate"..
The Supreme Court will jump in at some point ..
You know that little thing about " right to pursue happiness " in that little document called the Declaration of Independence .
just wow ...that you cant understand such a simple concept.. or perhaps you chose to TWIST it into your Narrative .
either way , have a pleasant day ..
Being verbose does not necessarily prove superior intelligence .. as you just clearly demonstrated .
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