Dominicans in favor of Trump’s increase of raids and deportations

[NALs]

A very dangerous ringleader of the Venezuela ‘Tren de Aragua’ gang was caught by an ICE operation living in Washington Heights! He was in hiding there after doing a very horrific crime in Colorado.

NYC minority communities cheer ICE raids that rounded up violent criminal migrants: ‘Get them the hell off the street!’​

It hasn’t been a month since the increase of raids and deportations was started and already having results.

 

[Joseph NY2STI]

They also found a Dominican charged with 2 murders in D.R. Grab your popcorn, it's only going to get better!

 

[Meemselle]

I have a Dominican friend who is in the US ---LEGALLY --- on a teaching visa. He and his wife and 7-year old son live in Delaware. His son came home from school two days ago, very upset, and told his parents that the bus driver told him that he wasn't going to be picking him up any more. They called the school, and there has been no change in bus routes. So this sounds to me like a self-appointed ICE-wanna be, making a racial attack on a child. My friend is thinking about chucking it all and coming back to the DR. He doesn't want his child to be subjected to this. I would not say that these particular Dominicans are in favor of whatever it is that's been set in motion.

 

[IslandCabby]

Not Dominicans in general. Dominicans that have the same type of short-sighted rich-person worship mixed in with a very strong racist/"anti-other" cultural upbringing. Anybody either old enough or with a sense of history, and logic, can see where this is really coming from and where it is going. The "caught a criminal stories" are deliberate PR, what's actually happening is manipulation and someone, somewhere's making good money or working a political angle. US, DR, UK it's all the same thing. Unfortunately it's not just fraud-for-profit, it has real effects, on migrants, on anyone who looks like a "migrant", on taxpayers, on the economy and ultimately on peoples continued increased tolerance of bigotry. If they don't wise up soon we'll be set back 75 years. Mark my words, some idiot somewhere is going to pull some posse crap and go after some innocent kid on his way home from school.

 

[NALs]

Or it’s simply that NYC neighborhoods with a heavy Dominican population saw a marked increase in crime during the “vuelta por México” craze and even the introduction of new crimes that were unheard of in NYC but not in rough neighborhoods of places like Caracas. That many of the new criminals have been recent illegal immigrants (since the V por M) simply adds to the suspicion. Most of the criminals that have been caught since the ICE upswing are lightskin and many seen as white by many Dominicans.

 

[Big]

Not Dominicans in general. Dominicans that have the same type of short-sighted rich-person worship mixed in with a very strong racist/"anti-other" cultural upbringing. Anybody either old enough or with a sense of history, and logic, can see where this is really coming from and where it is going. The "caught a criminal stories" are deliberate PR, what's actually happening is manipulation and someone, somewhere's making good money or working a political angle. US, DR, UK it's all the same thing. Unfortunately it's not just fraud-for-profit, it has real effects, on migrants, on anyone who looks like a "migrant", on taxpayers, on the economy and ultimately on peoples continued increased tolerance of bigotry. If they don't wise up soon we'll be set back 75 years. Mark my words, some idiot somewhere is going to pull some posse crap and go after some innocent kid on his way home from school.

I guess some people don't mind living amongst criminals, murderers, rapists and thieves. The gov is doing what they are commissioned to do, thankfully.

 

[NALs]

I guess some people don't mind living amongst criminals, murderers, rapists and thieves. The gov is doing what they are commissioned to do, thankfully.

I’m willing to bet IslandCabby doesn’t live in a neighborhood impacted by a surge in crime due to the “vuelta por México“ and doesn’t care about them. The political agenda/ideology takes center stage above all else with that person.

Support for the new crack down basically is widespread among Hispanics and African Americans in NYC.

 

[keepcoming]

There many people posting on FB warning people where ICE has been spotted. I see a lot of posts on FB from people about the Philadelphia area.

 

[Joseph NY2STI]

I guess some people don't mind living amongst criminals, murderers, rapists and thieves. The gov is doing what they are commissioned to do, thankfully.

Just a theory, but perhaps in their native land law enforcement is lax and/or corrupt and they've adopted a "this is the ways things are" fatalistic attitude.
Hell of a way to live.

 

[CristoRey]

Most Dominicans are passive by nature. Many of the other nationalities mentioned above are not. Makes sense.

 

[IslandCabby]

I guess some people don't mind living amongst criminals, murderers, rapists and thieves. The gov is doing what they are commissioned to do, thankfully.

I'll try to be as concise as possible. My experience with crime has been that where it is committed by migrant populations, the larger proportion is the native born generation. In other words, the wannabe "hustlers" and really violent kids I had to be worried about were not the ones that came across the border but the ones that were born in NY, Jersey and had no sense of what their parents and grandparents had had to do/spend to get stateside. The illegal ones kept their heads down and usually worked 2 shifts to pay back the loans they owed to family and more often than not connected loansharks back home. I saw the same thing living in Texas. People mind living surrounded by crime. That's why we all usually live in "residenciales" or other planned communities in the DR. My statement was based on the reality of the situation and not the marketed side of it. Earnestly believing that immigrants are the causes of crimewaves says you have lived a very sheltered or rural life and never really been in an area where crime really happens, and that lets people who think we are all suckers benefit, I just don't agree with what I see as disingenuous.

 

[IslandCabby]

I’m willing to bet IslandCabby doesn’t live in a neighborhood impacted by a surge in crime due to the “vuelta por México“ and doesn’t care about them. The political agenda/ideology takes center stage above all else with that person.

Support for the new crack down basically is widespread among Hispanics and African Americans in NYC.

I don't live in areas impacted by crime anymore. Made that decision as soon as we had our first. However, I do know what that "vuelta por Mexico" actually means, including how much it costs and where that money comes from. Very few people have the capital or are willing to shell out thousands of dollars, and the risks it entails, to invest in petty theft and murder, most definitely not travelling to another country to rape. Yes, criminals will do criminal s**t as they say, but being an immigrant doesn't make you a violent criminal, or a thief or whatever else, that's a psychological, deliberate decision made for very specific reasons that have nothing to do with your immigration status. Want a closer example? Find out how many murders in the DR are committed by native-born and how many are committed by immigrants. It's the same pattern, pick any country.

 

[JLSawmam]

While I appreciate @NALs comments and insight, the title given could be considered a bit misleading. Yes, the article has comments from two Dominicans, and one also mentions concern for those "undocumented, hardworking people busting their ass doing 14- and 16-hour days to support their families.” I thought there might be some sort of survey to support the headline for this thread.

 

[NALs]

I don't live in areas impacted by crime anymore. Made that decision as soon as we had our first. However, I do know what that "vuelta por Mexico" actually means, including how much it costs and where that money comes from. Very few people have the capital or are willing to shell out thousands of dollars, and the risks it entails, to invest in petty theft and murder, most definitely not travelling to another country to rape.

Sell everything including the house + borrow from everyone big and small. There are many people that have a hard time finding the money to fund a new business, but not when it’s for something like migrating illegally.

Yes, criminals will do criminal s**t as they say, but being an immigrant doesn't make you a violent criminal, or a thief or whatever else, that's a psychological, deliberate decision made for very specific reasons that have nothing to do with your immigration status.

No one is talking about immigrants, the entire thing is about illegal immigrants.

Want a closer example? Find out how many murders in the DR are committed by native-born and how many are committed by immigrants. It's the same pattern, pick any country.

When the growth of crime is due mostly to criminals with an illegal immigrant status, it goes without saying that growth would had never happened without the people that made it happen.

 

[NALs]

While I appreciate @NALs comments and insight, the title given could be considered a bit misleading. Yes, the article has comments from two Dominicans, and one also mentions concern for those "undocumented, hardworking people busting their ass doing 14- and 16-hour days to support their families.” I thought there might be some sort of survey to support the headline for this thread.

Dominican neighborhoods in NYC are some that had the highest increases in the city in support of Trump. Upper Manhattan and southwestern Thr Bronx are basically ground zero, but Queens also has many Dominicans. It drops significantly in Brooklyn and very small in Staten Island. The rest of Manhattan has a drop too, but generally the Dominicans that live in those areas tend to be different from most found in Upper Manhattan/ southwestern The Bronx.

Donald Trump made gains throughout NYC as Dem margins plummeted

Trump’s margin of defeat in New York City was 16 points less than four years ago. He made up huge ground in the bluest boroughs.

gothamist.com

 

[chico bill]

So7n

I have a Dominican friend who is in the US ---LEGALLY --- on a teaching visa. He and his wife and 7-year old son live in Delaware. His son came home from school two days ago, very upset, and told his parents that the bus driver told him that he wasn't going to be picking him up any more. They called the school, and there has been no change in bus routes. So this sounds to me like a self-appointed ICE-wanna be, making a racial attack on a child. My friend is thinking about chucking it all and coming back to the DR. He doesn't want his child to be subjected to this. I would not say that these particular Dominicans are in favor of whatever it is that's been set in motion.

Sounds like a 4th hand rumor.
Like the rumor that ICE raided a school, when actually it was the Secret Service investigating threats made on TikTok.

 

[cavok]

I have a Dominican friend who is in the US ---LEGALLY --- on a teaching visa. He and his wife and 7-year old son live in Delaware. His son came home from school two days ago, very upset, and told his parents that the bus driver told him that he wasn't going to be picking him up any more. They called the school, and there has been no change in bus routes. So this sounds to me like a self-appointed ICE-wanna be, making a racial attack on a child. My friend is thinking about chucking it all and coming back to the DR. He doesn't want his child to be subjected to this. I would not say that these particular Dominicans are in favor of whatever it is that's been set in motion.

It's either a fabrication or there is more to the story. Nobody is going to ;pack up and leave just because a bus driver for unknown reasons refused to pick up their kid.

 

[chico bill]

It's either a fabrication or there is more to the story. Nobody is going to ;pack up and leave just because a bus driver for unknown reasons refused to pick up their kid.

I had a driver refuse to take me and my sister to school because we were outside the boundary for school bus service which was on the other side of the street, literally 30' away.
So we walked to and from school 1-mile each way while our neighbors got picked up & dropped off on the corner across the street.
Who knows what this actecdote actually represents.

 

[jaguar86]

It's either a fabrication or there is more to the story. Nobody is going to ;pack up and leave just because a bus driver for unknown reasons refused to pick up their kid.

I don't see a reason for someone to fabricate a story like this. It is most likely true.

 

[chico bill]

I don't see a reason for someone to fabricate a story like this. It is most likely true.

Maybe it's not fabricated but ICE is not telling schools to prevent children from going to school.
But there are plenty of things that get made up to promote agendas
I could give a list but it would be deleted as non-DR related