Girl Missing from RIU Hotel in Punta Cana

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Can't happen. Just listen to one guy leading the charge who has ZERO credibility in this thread. He clearly intentionally posted that the guy was not interviewed until TWO days after it happened. ONLY when challenged multiple times for a link which was ignored he knew his lie to bolster his nonsense was exposed he says he made a "mistake". Yes he stuck with this falsehood for multiple posts until exposed for the fraud that it was..............
nobody told a lie. Just because it is an opposing view does not mean it is a lie silly boy.
 

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nobody told a lie. Just because it is an opposing view does not mean it is a lie silly boy.
It was a falsehood posted to bolster his position. There was NO reporting of the guy waiting TWO days for an interview. In fact he met the SAME DAY......
 
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In the US you can get gunned down with an assault weapon in a Mall, Classroom, Church, or pretty much anywhere. And they give a warning for the Dominican Republic. Talk about the "The Pot Calling the Kettle Black"...............
how about this for an analogy sky boy. More people suffer injuries and death from gorging themselves on carbs and liquor year after year at your favorite AI resorts. The U,S has nothing to do with this thread.
 
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It was a falsehood posted to bolster his position. There was NO reporting of the guy waiting TWO days for an interview. In fact he met the SAME DAY......
I haven't changed my theory or position. I merely corrected the timeline and noted that I did in fact have that incorrect. You sir, on the other hand, are an old cantankerous bloat. You really need to take it down a notch. I will no longer engage your bullshit. These are just opinions on a public forum. Go play some golf or see a ball game.
 
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I'm not questioning or doubting that possibility at all. What I'm saying is, even if he did it, I don't see that affecting DR tourism one bit. A drunk American spring breaker kills another on some lonesome stretch of beach late at night. Tragic, but it's not going to hurt DR tourism. It's not like the Holloway case at all.
The difference is parents who likely pick the tab may think otherwise about their kids going to resorts in X country. The resources being expended on this case are perhaps an indication of that industry reality. Independent adults can easily ignore incidents, parents concerned about and paying for their adult children, may think twice. The comments to many US articles show that there are some who hold back from travel to the DR (citing other past incidents sometimes or even wrong perceptions) so while it may not get a huge hit, it also means it doesn't get to grow to even great heights.

In the US you can get gunned down with an assault weapon in a Mall, Classroom, Church, or pretty much anywhere. And they give a warning for the Dominican Republic. Talk about the "The Pot Calling the Kettle Black"...............
Situational awareness for their own citizens, what part of the below is false or wildly inaccurate? It's intended for their own citizens, if any part of it is false, then one has a true point of contention, if not then "the truth hurts" principle may apply. The DR is at liberty to do the same. China did the same at one point on US gun violence. The UK does it too for other countries. Per capita crime statistics for the US do pan out based on locality to being relatively low, amplified media coverage and actual statistical data are not always in sync. The US is x30 the DR population and 200x larger in land mass.


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All valid points regarding tourism.
Yes , Valid only to a degree. a very small one imo
The DR .. and other Islands and countries ( Aruba et al) will always be FOREIGN Soil, and the Dangers there are considered/ perceived as DIFFERENT in the Travelers Minds .. Colombia was briefly considered Safe, Not any More ..its back to dangerous .

I will drive into the WORST City in the USA and not even sweat it ,. who would dare do that in a Foreign Country , Practically No one .
So once a Country is deemed NOT Safe for Tourists . its not a good Look .
Miami, ? who doesnt want to go to Miami ? who would EVER change their Travel Plans because of a Murder or other Crime in Miami
.. Zero percent .
Apples and Oranges .
 

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Yes , Valid only to a degree. a very small one imo
The DR .. and other Islands and countries ( Aruba et al) will always be FOREIGN Soil, and the Dangers there are considered/ perceived as DIFFERENT in the Travelers Minds .. Colombia was briefly considered Safe, Not any More ..its back to dangerous .

I will drive into the WORST City in the USA and not even sweat it ,. who would dare do that in a Foreign Country , Practically No one .
So once a Country is deemed NOT Safe for Tourists . its not a good Look .
Miami, ? who doesnt want to go to Miami ? who would EVER change their Travel Plans because of a Murder or other Crime in Miami
.. Zero percent .
Apples and Oranges .
The FBI, along with INTERPOL and Indian authorities, in conjunction with Loudoun Va teams are focusing more on non ocean related foul play, stating Dominican authorities are driving the drowning narrative.

That said, this investigation really depends on the FBI, because we all know DICRIM, along with the DNCD are two of the most corrupt organizations of the PN. Nothing that comes out of these organizations should be trusted.

The Dominican authorities are driving a drowning narrative based on zero eyewitnesses and the three conflicting stories of the boy who was last seen with her on camera.

As I mentioned yesterday, and as reiterated by FBI sources, there is no concrete evidence that the two youths were even in the water. No one saw them in the water, no further eyewitnesses have come forward as yet and no one saw this red beached whale sleeping on the beach in the early morning hours. No one, not even investigators at this point, can conclude either party was even in the ocean.

They are in possession of cell phones and reviewing bank records and DNA from clothing. FBI is keeping super quiet. Surely there will be more circumstantial evidence to come.
 

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Yes , Valid only to a degree. a very small one imo
The DR .. and other Islands and countries ( Aruba et al) will always be FOREIGN Soil, and the Dangers there are considered/ perceived as DIFFERENT in the Travelers Minds .. Colombia was briefly considered Safe, Not any More ..its back to dangerous .

I will drive into the WORST City in the USA and not even sweat it ,. who would dare do that in a Foreign Country , Practically No one .
So once a Country is deemed NOT Safe for Tourists . its not a good Look .
Miami, ? who doesnt want to go to Miami ? who would EVER change their Travel Plans because of a Murder or other Crime in Miami
.. Zero percent .
Apples and Oranges .
I do feel Cavok is correct for the most part. At the end of the day, folks will continue to come regardless of the tragic incident(s).
 

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The FBI, along with INTERPOL and Indian authorities, in conjunction with Loudoun Va teams are focusing more on non ocean related foul play, stating Dominican authorities are driving the drowning narrative.

That said, this investigation really depends on the FBI, because we all know DICRIM, along with the DNCD are two of the most corrupt organizations of the PN. Nothing that comes out of these organizations should be trusted.

The Dominican authorities are driving a drowning narrative based on zero eyewitnesses and the three conflicting stories of the boy who was last seen with her on camera.

As I mentioned yesterday, and as reiterated by FBI sources, there is no concrete evidence that the two youths were even in the water. No one saw them in the water, no further eyewitnesses have come forward as yet and no one saw this red beached whale sleeping on the beach in the early morning hours. No one, not even investigators at this point, can conclude either party was even in the ocean.

They are in possession of cell phones and reviewing bank records and DNA from clothing. FBI is keeping super quiet. Surely there will be more circumstantial evidence to come.
SO SEVERAL of us here,, and Numerous Other People are ASKING the exact same Questions ..

That does not happen by COLLUSION , or Chance.. It only happens when its LOGICAL to ask such questions ..
but one needs a Certain IQ Level to ASK Critical Questions .

Blindly following the " oops she drowned" and " if you dont believe it , you are a Conspiracy Nut Job"
is the LOWEST form of Conversation ..
as some here have clearly displayed for all to see .

TO basically accuse the FBI of being IDIOTS for investigating all Angles .. just Sad and Not even funny
As we have said before, they Are down there for a Reason and its not a clear cut case at all .
 

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I wonder where that Shirt IS , and if it has any CLUES on it ..
Makes you wonder .. did the shirt disappear ?
Maybe blood stained and discarded or buried. The whole thing stinks to high heaven because there's no way two cornpone cousin-admirers on an all you can eat and drink spring break could have an established network of thugs in the DR to assist in covering this up. Makes you think who all was actually involved? Getting rid of a body is not trivial. Of course it's not in the water because she would have washed up by now or something would have to give clues. The young lady or her body, God forgive me, is long gone.
 
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I have a BAD Feeling the Dominican Authorities MISSED the WINDOW
An Expert on a video I saw , says the Body only come to the Surface after like 48 Hours for a brief Period,, Like a day or 2 .
If its not discovered then, it will go back down again, and may NEVER be found again..

This is exactly what happened with the MAN who drowned in JANUARY in the same Area
( which I clearly asked the other poster here about, but he had no clue and never responded to it , )
That BODY was NEVER Recovered , according to this Expert ..
Can someone double check that perhaps .
 
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That said, this investigation really depends on the FBI, because we all know DICRIM, along with the DNCD are two of the most corrupt organizations of the PN. Nothing that comes out of these organizations should be trusted.
The reality though is the local authorities are the lead investigators. Even if they disagree, they hold most if not all the cards on what will be the official finding. None of the US institutions have jurisdiction in the DR, not even US courts, they are there on an invitational basis to "assist". The only remote possibility is if US laws were violated and that federal law itself has universal reach and jurisdiction.
 
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I have a BAD Feeling the Dominican Authorities MISSED the WINDOW
An Expert on a video I saw , says the Body only come to the Surface after like 48 Hours for a brief Period,, Like a day or 2 .
If its not discovered then, it will go back down again, and may NEVER be found again..

This is exactly what happened with the MAN who drowned in JANUARY in the same Area
( which I clearly asked the other poster here about, but he had no clue and never responded to it , )
That BODY was NEVER Recovered , according to this Expert ..
Can someone double check that perhaps .
They have divers but if the DR is pushing the accidental drowning narrative hard, maybe this won't be as thorough as the family hopes. Sad to say.
 
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The reality though is the local authorities are the lead investigators. Even if they disagree, they hold most if not all the cards on what will be the official finding. None of the US institutions have jurisdiction in the DR, not even US courts, they are there on an invitational basis to "assist". The only remote possibility is if US laws were violated and that federal law itself has universal reach and jurisdiction.
The US holds all the cards, sorry. One thing is is how the diplomatic arrangements are structured and the other is the reality of how deeply in bed or intertwined the two countries really are. Don't underestimate the influence the US has in DR. And it goes far deeper than most of the general public realizes. Not only the US, but India also has skin in the game here. India should not be underestimated either. I really only care that justice is done for the sake of the young girl's parents, not another corrupt sweep under the rug as many before have gone.
 

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Yes , Valid only to a degree. a very small one imo
The DR .. and other Islands and countries ( Aruba et al) will always be FOREIGN Soil, and the Dangers there are considered/ perceived as DIFFERENT in the Travelers Minds .. Colombia was briefly considered Safe, Not any More ..its back to dangerous .

I will drive into the WORST City in the USA and not even sweat it ,. who would dare do that in a Foreign Country , Practically No one .
So once a Country is deemed NOT Safe for Tourists . its not a good Look .
Miami, ? who doesnt want to go to Miami ? who would EVER change their Travel Plans because of a Murder or other Crime in Miami
.. Zero percent .
Apples and Oranges .
You're really overlooking the obvious. In Cancun, cartel members came on the beach with automatic rifles and started shooting up people. In Playa Del Carmen, they shot up rival cartels members at a restaurants and I think some tourists were injured or killed. In the DR, we had people dying of alcohol poisoning at a PC resort. In another case, guests became severely ill or died from insecticide coming out of the A/C at a resort in PC. This has all been forgotten everywhere and tourists are back in record numbers. The fact that a spring breaker drowned or was possibly killed by another spring breaker absolutely pales in comparison to these other stories. Nobody is going to think twice about coming to the DR as a result of this.
 
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The difference is parents who likely pick the tab may think otherwise about their kids going to resorts in X country.
The difference is, some parents might be hesitant to let their kids go on Spring Break anywhere - including the US.