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    Default to de or not to de or the secret of dominican surnames

    i would like to know when does one get DE in the surname. since i work with seguros on daily basis i get to see many dominican cedulas and i have noticed that most just state, say: CARMEN MARIA PEREZ SANCHEZ. but la primera dama is MARGARITA CEDENO DE FERNANDEZ. are there any rules towards this?
    i am being told that i can be KOWALSKA DE MARTINEZ or KOWALSKA MARTINEZ so does a woman get to chose to de, in a similar fashion a woman choses in europe whether she wants to keep her name, have husbands name or have both?
    and what happens to illegitimate father-unknown kids? do they end up as TAVAREZ TAVAREZ or just one TAVAREZ?

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    Default my ideas

    You use the "de" when the woman's family name is better (class? money? hmm) than the husbands or at least as good.

    When the child has one parent you use the name of the mother's father alone. Or just the same as the mother, with traditional dad/mom name sequence.

    And these are ideas, not facts, no soy experta.

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    dv8 de Whoever. Means you are married

    dv8 whoever. Means your mother was whoever, your father dv8.

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    so perez sanchez is unmarried woman and perez de sanchez is married?

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    In my husband's family the women his brothers married all kept their original/birth double surnames. [As opposed to me, who dropped my maiden name and took my husband's surname, American style] However, in DR that's not normally done, there I am Blankety Blank [maiden] de [his surname]. Tells anyone who's interested that I'm married to him. [It truly confuses a lot of Dominicans that I have the same surname as my husband] I don't believe the cedulas ever get changed to add the 'de' husband's surname, which is why you're seeing women with their birth/original surnames on the cedula. It does show if the person is married or not on the cedula [or it should, my husband's still says he's single, 33 years later].

    Now, if Luis becomes President, you'll undoubtedly be referred to with the "de".

    If madame First Lady outlives Leonel, she will then be called 'vda' Fernandez, indicating she's a widow of Fernandez.

    A child who is born to an unmarried woman normally takes the mother's father's surname. Sometimes the father does acknowledge the child and gives them his surname, without marrying the mother. I know many cases like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8 View Post
    so perez sanchez is unmarried woman and perez de sanchez is married?
    Not necessarily - perez sanchez could be married too.... if you're simply relying on the cedula....

    I think....

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    I could have used my maiden name and then my husbands first surname, ie his fathers surname, but my maiden name is unpronounceable for dominicans!! So I am Matilda de husbands surname. Nice to hear that it means my family are more important!! Mind you no one asked or checked and it just got waved through when I got a new passport in England. I like being a de though - goes well with Doņa!!!

    mat

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlterEgo View Post
    A child who is born to an unmarried woman normally takes the mother's father's surname.
    you mean full surname of the father? say, we have a dude named gomez fernandez, his daughter is gomez perez (fathers name plus mothers name). her bastardly child, so to speak, would be gomez fernandez, right?

    gee, complicated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matilda View Post
    I could have used my maiden name and then my husbands first surname, ie his fathers surname, but my maiden name is unpronounceable for dominicans!! So I am Matilda de husbands surname. Nice to hear that it means my family are more important!! Mind you no one asked or checked and it just got waved through when I got a new passport in England. I like being a de though - goes well with Doņa!!!
    mat
    i gotta say i cannot be bothered to register my marriage in poland and spend days in government offices changing all my documents. therefore my polish ID and passport are in my maiden name with "single" in marital status and dominican documents are with my maiden name with "casada".
    but i introduce myself with miesposo's name, without de. maybe i should start to de, i kinda like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8 View Post
    you mean full surname of the father? say, we have a dude named gomez fernandez, his daughter is gomez perez (fathers name plus mothers name). her bastardly child, so to speak, would be gomez fernandez, right?

    gee, complicated


    No, just Gomez.

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