We Just Got Subpoenaed For User Info...

Robert

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I'm sure that title got a few of you in the thread :)

The recent case of Twitter and a few other sites being subpoenaed for user information is very relavent, as we have a busy message board with a lot of opinions, facts, stories and a few half truths.

I have no doubt the day will come when DR1 gets an order from a judge asking us to hand over user data. When and if that day comes, our policy would pretty much follow that of Twitter. Disclose to the user what's happening and hand over any relevant data.

In this day and age you can still have a reasonable amount of anonymity, you just need to know how to cover your footprints.

Services like the Tor Network, private proxies in backwater countries etc are available and growing. For every step various Governments take in the direction of "Big Brother" online, others roll out tools to help cover your tracks.

We Just Got Subpoenaed For User Info In A Criminal Harassment Investigation -- Here's How We Handled It
 

socuban

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I was just kidding about the DR1 IPO, really!

I never heard of the term "insider trading", honest!

Who's Ivan Boesky???

Interesting times especially for Assange.............
 
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How can a US court subpoena information on a foreign corporation? Wouldn't that have to come from a Dominican court and wouldn't the us corporation have to pay extraordinary fees/bonds to do so?

Has precedent in internet law been established as to ~where~ the claim took place? Where the domain owner lives? Where the Corporation lives? Where the server lives? What about data split on servers in different places?

A subpoena on a US Corporation with domains and servers owned by that corporation and located within the US (Twitter), that's a different story.

And here's a question that I don't have the answer to: I know there are extradition treaties for criminal activities between countries. What is the legal cooperation between, say, the DR and US in civil matters? Can the US reach someone delinquent in child support payments in the DR? Can the DR prosecute someone who embezzled money from a Dominican Corporation in the US? Can the US seize assets in the DR?

Intersting international concepts, one worth some of the better legal minds here discussing.
 

RacerX

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If your servers are in Miami......

The State Department has a website where they list countries they have a child support enforcement agreement with DR isnt on there(most likely because of antiquated record keeping practices. I know people whose birth isnt recorded the day they were born, like my ex-wife. Her bday was recorded a month later. And the pen and paper thing is prone to manipulation.)

The dude who stole from BanInter is in federal prison in Miami.
 
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Let them come! Who is afraid? I say it now and I will say it until my last breath: this is the most corrupt government in Dominican history. Every institution of this state is infiltrated by bandits. The military and police are involved in most of the criminality. The drug and narcotics business has the blessing of government authorities. Our tax money is used to enrich the pockets of government officials. All elections are fraudulent because they are paid with illegal activities and all candidates are corrupt. Political office is sought after only to obtain priviledges, money for personal gain and power to abuse and break laws. The justice system is the most corrupt in America after Venezuela and Nicaragua. There are no property rights, except what the corrupt land tribunal decides, which is mostly to avail and legalize fraudulent land titles or ignore legitimate land owners. This is a failed state by all measures. We as a failed state measure in the lowest levels of classifications and measures against the rest of the world. And the irrefutable truth of my statements is the fact that this is one of only a few countries of the world where an electricity blackout is a normal activity and more common than rain. So what are they going to do? Come after me? Let them bastards try to do it. We will do the same thing the Tunisian and Egypcian people are doing to autocratic governments. Leonel Fernandez is a dictator who has broken his oath of office. I worked all my life paying taxes. He has never paid even 5% of the taxes he has paid because the moron had never worked a day in his life before being president and now he wants to retire with the taxes I paid. So let the fCk with us!
 

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Let them come! Who is afraid? I say it now and I will say it until my last breath: this is the most corrupt government in Dominican history. Every institution of this state is infiltrated by bandits. The military and police are involved in most of the criminality. The drug and narcotics business has the blessing of government authorities. Our tax money is used to enrich the pockets of government officials. All elections are fraudulent because they are paid with illegal activities and all candidates are corrupt. Political office is sought after only to obtain priviledges, money for personal gain and power to abuse and break laws. The justice system is the most corrupt in America after Venezuela and Nicaragua. There are no property rights, except what the corrupt land tribunal decides, which is mostly to avail and legalize fraudulent land titles or ignore legitimate land owners. This is a failed state by all measures. We as a failed state measure in the lowest levels of classifications and measures against the rest of the world. And the irrefutable truth of my statements is the fact that this is one of only a few countries of the world where an electricity blackout is a normal activity and more common than rain. So what are they going to do? Come after me? Let them bastards try to do it. We will do the same thing the Tunisian and Egypcian people are doing to autocratic governments. Leonel Fernandez is a dictator who has broken his oath of office. I worked all my life paying taxes. He has never paid even 5% of the taxes he has paid because the moron had never worked a day in his life before being president and now he wants to retire with the taxes I paid. So let the fCk with us!

Good post.
 

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If your servers are in Miami......

The State Department has a website where they list countries they have a child support enforcement agreement with DR isnt on there(most likely because of antiquated record keeping practices. I know people whose birth isnt recorded the day they were born, like my ex-wife. Her bday was recorded a month later. And the pen and paper thing is prone to manipulation.)

The dude who stole from BanInter is in federal prison in Miami.

Nobody is jailed in Miami from the Baninter heist. All of them are in Najayo living the sweet life. Alvarez Renta, Baez Figueroa, etc...
 
I'm sure that title got a few of you in the thread :)

The recent case of Twitter and a few other sites being subpoenaed for user information is very relavent, as we have a busy message board with a lot of opinions, facts, stories and a few half truths.

I have no doubt the day will come when DR1 gets an order from a judge asking us to hand over user data. When and if that day comes, our policy would pretty much follow that of Twitter. Disclose to the user what's happening and hand over any relevant data.

In this day and age you can still have a reasonable amount of anonymity, you just need to know how to cover your footprints.

Services like the Tor Network, private proxies in backwater countries etc are available and growing. For every step various Governments take in the direction of "Big Brother" online, others roll out tools to help cover your tracks.

We Just Got Subpoenaed For User Info In A Criminal Harassment Investigation -- Here's How We Handled It

So is Darcy gonna subpoena DR1 on me?? I will still kick his Arse. that lying bastard
 

Tamborista

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So is Darcy gonna subpoena DR1 on me?? I will still kick his Arse. that lying bastard

The dog's were fed...Rocky retired from the internet, and the inner circle has been disolved.

Seriously Patrick, nobody gives a rat's a$$ about what really happened. Why are you still obsessed with this story? Don't you think it is time to move on?

ian
 
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How can a US court subpoena information on a foreign corporation? Wouldn't that have to come from a Dominican court and wouldn't the us corporation have to pay extraordinary fees/bonds to do so?

Has precedent in internet law been established as to ~where~ the claim took place? Where the domain owner lives? Where the Corporation lives? Where the server lives? What about data split on servers in different places?

A subpoena on a US Corporation with domains and servers owned by that corporation and located within the US (Twitter), that's a different story.

And here's a question that I don't have the answer to: I know there are extradition treaties for criminal activities between countries. What is the legal cooperation between, say, the DR and US in civil matters? Can the US reach someone delinquent in child support payments in the DR? Can the DR prosecute someone who embezzled money from a Dominican Corporation in the US? Can the US seize assets in the DR?

Intersting international concepts, one worth some of the better legal minds here discussing.

The DR does not participate in the Hague Conference on Private International Law. However case-by-case issues are negotiated between the the two countries.

Deadbeat dads can be tracked down, served process, but this is mostly for Dominican-Americans. The US Department of State "generally" cannot afford the 500K dollars needed to track down and extradite a deadbeat owing 10Gs in child support.
 

MikeFisher

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what's always that 'Fuss" about "Big Brother" and such crap?

who does not participate in any criminal or illegal Activities doesn't need to fear to get caught with His/Her pants down.

and the One's who do participate should be investigated and tracked down by all available Investigational Possibilities including the use of the Internet.

If You are Not Involved in any Illegal or Criminal Activity,
What ya have to fear to come out in an Investigation of Your Person?

People Cry out loud around the Globe that the Gubmints need to do more about
"Crimes, Harrassments, Terrorism, Deadbeat Fathers, Corrupt Gubmints" etc etc,

but none of the "Wining Cryers" would agree to get Investigated Himself/Herself.

very $tupid Point of Stand IMHO.

Mike


btw,
due such Investigations 'Big Bro Styled'
one Day You may be able to proof the bad.illegal/criminal behavior of the Gubmint You hate so and lock them away.
 

Golo100

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Tamborista; you're right. We should move on. But it is important DR1 sets the record straight with this thread, because we ought to be prepared in the event that the dark forces exercise their illegitimate power to steal our privacy. It is not out of the realm of possibilities that a government like the PLD's would use this intimidating action. We know their hunger for power and money. Leonel is a proxy of dictator-by-democracy Hugo Chavez. He gets his orders from Caracas and he is part of the socialist axis, albeit underground. Fernandez grew up under Juan Bosch's tutelage. If you had a chance to read his books, "Pentagonismo" and his many articles related to the "Dictatorship with Popular Support" you will know that this is the theoretical, philosophical and political manual for the PLD. With the exception perhaps of Danilo Medina, the brass at the PLD are in line with anti-business, limited freedom practices; sort of the Chavez model. The soul of the street movement capable of rebelling against this pervasive order has been bought with drug dollars with the profits from narcotics confiscated by the government in drug busts. Money is flowing to the press, the media and the uniformed forces. The "tigueres" who normally receive the spark from the brain of the people when an oulet for frustration is needed have all been bought with "botella" jobs, political appointments in strategic posts like town mayors and " regidores", as well as administrative jobs in key places like license and permit issuance, where they can have instant access to sensitive information quickly. There are only a few hot spots where the represive apparatus has not been able to fully control, like Licey Al Medio, Navarrete, and certain areas in the Villa Altagracia-Bonao corridor. However, I've been told that even those are PLD cells provoking riots by orders of the interior ministry gang to blame the PRD for disturbances. Ironically, Hipolito Mejia used the same tactics against the PLD in 2003-2004. In barrios like Buenos Aires, Libertador, Los Alcarrizos, Villas Agricolas, Capotillo and Cristo Rey many of the "troublemakers" have been silenced quietly in "intercambios". Strick control has been placed on rubber tires and flammables. On the other hand, with the absence of the "tigueres", the police and the army now control and own the "underground economy". All the car washes, discos, clubs, liquor stores and popular spots are owned by "Coroneles". Any movement to rid us of this institutional chaos would have to break from the lower and upper middle class with the students in spontaneous ignition. Elections are no longer viable. The JCE is as corrupt as the national palace. The new JCE president is a "come cheque" and big spender whose hedonism is only exceeded by Adonis. But DR1 is still a respected outlet because of its reach-out to the sensitive ex-pat community, the tourist industry and international community. DR1 cannot be silenced. Internet is the free lifeline of the people. DR1 embraces the best of the left, the right and the center. We speak and write the international language and there is no taboo subject. Lets keep it that way.
 
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The dog's were fed...Rocky retired from the internet, and the inner circle has been disolved.

Seriously Patrick, nobody gives a rat's a$$ about what really happened. Why are you still obsessed with this story? Don't you think it is time to move on?

ian

Ian I am not really obsessed by this but I did get some very influential people involved in this because I like and respect Marco. And if I can ever help out a friend in need I will always try my best. The people I called got involved at my request and quickly called me up and told me it was BS and to stay out of it. I kind of used some phone calls that I could still have in case I or someone I know ever needed them and I wasted those calls on that a$$. He also ruined some peoples reputations and destroyed friendships. He did so much harm because he could not man up and admit he made some bad business decisions. I blame him and him alone for doing these things. Had I been kidnapped and drugged and taken hostage for a period of time I would not be staggering around Sosua like a drunken sailor on shore leave, I would never go back to the place. He walks around Sosua as if nothing ever happened, He is a real piece of Shyte.
 
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Tamborista; you're right. We should move on. But it is important DR1 sets the record straight with this thread, because we ought to be prepared in the event that the dark forces exercise their illegitimate power to steal our privacy. It is not out of the realm of possibilities that a government like the PLD's would use this intimidating action. We know their hunger for power and money. Leonel is a proxy of dictator-by-democracy Hugo Chavez. He gets his orders from Caracas and he is part of the socialist axis, albeit underground. Fernandez grew up under Juan Bosch's tutelage. If you had a chance to read his books, "Pentagonismo" and his many articles related to the "Dictatorship with Popular Support" you will know that this is the theoretical, philosophical and political manual for the PLD. With the exception perhaps of Danilo Medina, the brass at the PLD are in line with anti-business, limited freedom practices; sort of the Chavez model. The soul of the street movement capable of rebelling against this pervasive order has been bought with drug dollars with the profits from narcotics confiscated by the government in drug busts. Money is flowing to the press, the media and the uniformed forces. The "tigueres" who normally receive the spark from the brain of the people when an oulet for frustration is needed have all been bought with "botella" jobs, political appointments in strategic posts like town mayors and " regidores", as well as administrative jobs in key places like license and permit issuance, where they can have instant access to sensitive information quickly. There are only a few hot spots where the represive apparatus has not been able to fully control, like Licey Al Medio, Navarrete, and certain areas in the Villa Altagracia-Bonao corridor. However, I've been told that even those are PLD cells provoking riots by orders of the interior ministry gang to blame the PRD for disturbances. Ironically, Hipolito Mejia used the same tactics against the PLD in 2003-2004. In barrios like Buenos Aires, Libertador, Los Alcarrizos, Villas Agricolas, Capotillo and Cristo Rey many of the "troublemakers" have been silenced quietly in "intercambios". Strick control has been placed on rubber tires and flammables. On the other hand, with the absence of the "tigueres", the police and the army now control and own the "underground economy". All the car washes, discos, clubs, liquor stores and popular spots are owned by "Coroneles". Any movement to rid us of this institutional chaos would have to break from the lower and upper middle class with the students in spontaneous ignition. Elections are no longer viable. The JCE is as corrupt as the national palace. The new JCE president is a "come cheque" and big spender whose hedonism is only exceeded by Adonis. But DR1 is still a respected outlet because of its reach-out to the sensitive ex-pat community, the tourist industry and international community. DR1 cannot be silenced. Internet is the free lifeline of the people. DR1 embraces the best of the left, the right and the center. We speak and write the international language and there is no taboo subject. Lets keep it that way.


Very well said! I absolutely agree.
 

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Tamborista; you're right. We should move on. But it is important DR1 sets the record straight with this thread, because we ought to be prepared in the event that the dark forces exercise their illegitimate power to steal our privacy. It is not out of the realm of possibilities that a government like the PLD's would use this intimidating action. We know their hunger for power and money. Leonel is a proxy of dictator-by-democracy Hugo Chavez. He gets his orders from Caracas and he is part of the socialist axis, albeit underground. Fernandez grew up under Juan Bosch's tutelage. If you had a chance to read his books, "Pentagonismo" and his many articles related to the "Dictatorship with Popular Support" you will know that this is the theoretical, philosophical and political manual for the PLD. With the exception perhaps of Danilo Medina, the brass at the PLD are in line with anti-business, limited freedom practices; sort of the Chavez model. The soul of the street movement capable of rebelling against this pervasive order has been bought with drug dollars with the profits from narcotics confiscated by the government in drug busts. Money is flowing to the press, the media and the uniformed forces. The "tigueres" who normally receive the spark from the brain of the people when an oulet for frustration is needed have all been bought with "botella" jobs, political appointments in strategic posts like town mayors and " regidores", as well as administrative jobs in key places like license and permit issuance, where they can have instant access to sensitive information quickly. There are only a few hot spots where the represive apparatus has not been able to fully control, like Licey Al Medio, Navarrete, and certain areas in the Villa Altagracia-Bonao corridor. However, I've been told that even those are PLD cells provoking riots by orders of the interior ministry gang to blame the PRD for disturbances. Ironically, Hipolito Mejia used the same tactics against the PLD in 2003-2004. In barrios like Buenos Aires, Libertador, Los Alcarrizos, Villas Agricolas, Capotillo and Cristo Rey many of the "troublemakers" have been silenced quietly in "intercambios". Strick control has been placed on rubber tires and flammables. On the other hand, with the absence of the "tigueres", the police and the army now control and own the "underground economy". All the car washes, discos, clubs, liquor stores and popular spots are owned by "Coroneles". Any movement to rid us of this institutional chaos would have to break from the lower and upper middle class with the students in spontaneous ignition. Elections are no longer viable. The JCE is as corrupt as the national palace. The new JCE president is a "come cheque" and big spender whose hedonism is only exceeded by Adonis. But DR1 is still a respected outlet because of its reach-out to the sensitive ex-pat community, the tourist industry and international community. DR1 cannot be silenced. Internet is the free lifeline of the people. DR1 embraces the best of the left, the right and the center. We speak and write the international language and there is no taboo subject. Lets keep it that way.


You need therapy and backrub.
 
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Right on Golo, good thread, alo maco. Racer is gettin the oil ready and warming up his hands to give you a treaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!!!!!!!!!