Police actionis I hope will get rid of "classless" mongers

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dwinket

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Sosua is a very nice town--clean friendly people and POLICE. I've never had a problem with anybody there. But the one downside is the "tourist" who go there and think they are in their"hood", they are rude loud and obnoxious. One trip I moved my hotel because a group of seven "tourist" carried on all day and nite like the idiots they are. They think walking around town with their "foul" worded T-shirts is cool. Yeah I would like to see them walk down the street with their young teenage daughter and pass by somebody with a shirt like they wear and explain to her when she asked about it. Classless totally classless--no doubt they are the ones complaining the most about the government keeping things in proper perspective. Hopefully these so called tourist will go someplace more fitting to their ignorant ways.
 

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The decision to try to attract the " classless" type of tourist was one of the key reasons for the downfall of Puerta Plata as a tourist destination. The drunkenness, prostitution, drug use, and deviant sexual activity they brought, ruined one of the areas best attractions. Unfortunately, this was done with the complete complicity of the local leadership. Hopefully, Sosua will not let this occur there.
 

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The decision to try to attract the " classless" type of tourist was one of the key reasons for the downfall of Puerta Plata as a tourist destination. The drunkenness, prostitution, drug use, and deviant sexual activity they brought, ruined one of the areas best attractions. Unfortunately, this was done with the complete complicity of the local leadership. Hopefully, Sosua will not let this occur there.

Yes, the demise of Playa Dorado had nothing to do with recession and the fact that the complex has not received a proper makover since it was built in the early 90's! What deviant sexual activity do you refer to, I must have missed that resort?
 

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You must be too young to remember, but Puerta Plata and Playa Dorada were marketed to the Europeans especially as a " paradise " for the gay and lesbian communities, and as a " freezone " for drug use. Needless to say, that pushed the average tourist and their families to look for other destinations, and their $ went with them.
I remember the area when there was only 1 hotel in the complex and it was beautiful.
 

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You must be too young to remember, but Puerta Plata and Playa Dorada were marketed to the Europeans especially as a " paradise " for the gay and lesbian communities, and as a " freezone " for drug use.

Well, I am old enough to say that this is utter nonsense.... :tired:
BTW, it is Puerto Plata...

donP
 

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so what happen to the gay and lesbian community ? did they go str8 and discover chicas and sankies ? :laugh:
 

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Puerta Plata and Playa Dorada were marketed to the Europeans especially as a " paradise " for the gay and lesbian communities, and as a " freezone " for drug use. .

I find that really hard to believe. You're saying that 20 or 30 years ago a predominately Catholic 3rd world country/community did this? I would have to see the proof.
 

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Sosua is a very nice town--clean friendly people and POLICE. I've never had a problem with anybody there. But the one downside is the "tourist" who go there and think they are in their"hood", they are rude loud and obnoxious. One trip I moved my hotel because a group of seven "tourist" carried on all day and nite like the idiots they are. They think walking around town with their "foul" worded T-shirts is cool. Yeah I would like to see them walk down the street with their young teenage daughter and pass by somebody with a shirt like they wear and explain to her when she asked about it. Classless totally classless--no doubt they are the ones complaining the most about the government keeping things in proper perspective. Hopefully these so called tourist will go someplace more fitting to their ignorant ways.

please let us all welcome dwinket to DR1..And lets also wave good bye to his prejudiced a..

Why don't all you haters stop using the sex tourist words as your shield and just come out and speak what is on your mind..This subject is sort of coming comical.We all know you are not hating on the white european tourist..Be a man and just admit this is all about the black guys from NY..PLAIN AND SIMPLE..So stop beating around the bush and speak your ignorant opinion..Mtv wanna be, white t shirt wearing, towel waveing thugs, blah blah blah...
 

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How stupid does one have to be to think that the Dominican government decided to clean up Sosua because of too many loud foul mouth American tourists!!! Seriously people. Stop and think about this for a second. As appalling as this behavior is, it can only be offensive if you understand the language.

Sosua is not some European country where you can find an English speaking native on every corner. Let's face it, those that are offended by this behavior are mostly English speaking ex-patriots and tourists. These racist ex-patriots and tourists, are using the bad behavior of a few to promote their agenda. Then they point to the attempted clean up of Sosua and try to convince the gullible readers, that the foul mouth black guys from NYC are the reason for the government crack down.

For years Sosua has been a 24 hour open air market for sex. At any given time of the day one could see scantly clad women walking the streets of Sosua. Many of them overtly advertising their trade with the words "ficky ficky" or by physically grabbing a guy by the genitals for all to see. Other women could be seen walking the streets at mid day looking like they are going to, or coming from a porn shoot. These barely dressed women walked up and down Pedro Clisante all day with no apparent destination. They sat in the bars with their push up bras holding their large barely covered fun bags inches above the table with no drinks for hours, waiting for a potential client to buy them a drink.

Sosua has been a place where Dominican drug dealers openly offered drugs to tourist and locals on every corner and club along Perdro Clisante. Gun toting Dominicans could been seen on any given day of the week getting drunk off President and then attempting to sober up by sweating it out on the dance floor. Their bachata dance is often interrupted by their attempt to keep the holsterless gun from falling out of their pants.

Hundreds of motor bikes could be seen breaking every motor vehicle regulation known to man, giving tourist the impression that there are no rules or structure in the DR. Moto drivers carrying propane tanks while drinking a large Presidente is not an uncommon site.

On any given sunny day in Sosua, one could cross paths with a well spoken, polite white tourist/ex-patriot walking with his obviously underage looking Dominican companion.

All of this unacceptable behavior and more could be seen day or night in Sosua. It didn't matter if you were alone or with your teen age daughter. These undesired sights were seen by tourist and ex-patriots of all races from all countries.

So what has changed? I'm not sure. From what I read, seen, and heard, I don't think anyone knows with certainty. But what I do know is that the racist tourists/ex patriots would have you believe that everything was right in paradise until the foul mouth black guys from NYC came to Sosua. They would have you believe that the words of these guys graphically describing their escapades fell on the ears of the good Dominican people. These good people then demanded that Sosua be cleaned up.....Wait a minute. 99% of the Dominican population does not speak English. Then who has a problem with the foul mouth black guys from NYC? Answer: English speaking tourists and ex-patriots.

So may be: One morning some loud mouth black guys stumbled into a local watering hole that is popular with mongers(Rocky's). These guys began their loud mouth tales about the previous night. This time their words fell on the ears of "the gentleman monger", who speaks English. The gentleman monger is horrified by this language because he doesn't mind chasing chicas all night long, he just doesn't want to hear explicit tales about what he himself has been doing all night long. The complaints begin. Many complaints like this from the English speaking tourists/ex patriots reach the Dominican government which results in the clean up of Sosua. Right??

And if you believe that the Dominican government is cleaning up Sosua because of the words of some English speaking tourist then you are an idiot.

In fact if you live in DR or visit often, and you choose to take the time to champion the cause of doing something about these loud mouth guys, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Why? Because it is you who have quietly taken part in the open air meat market. It is you who stood by and said nothing about that European with the underage girl. It is you who kept silent about the drugs and guns that you saw. It is you who never petitions the for safer streets. Yet, you take time to constantly write in this forum and others about that which you think is easy. Being a racist is easy. As a racisir you can just ignore or take part in the real problems Sosua has and then focus on the problems of the groups that you hate the most.

I'm not saying that being loud or foul mouth is acceptable. I'm not saying that one can't express their opinion about this. However, there is topic has been written about more than any of the real problems of Sosua. Again I say, just find you own slice of paradise and enjoy the Dominican Republic the best way you know how.
 
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How stupid does one have to be to think that the Dominican government decided to clean up Sosua because of too many loud foul mouth American tourists!!! Seriously people. Stop and think about this for a second. As appalling as this behavior is, it can only be offensive if you understand the language.

Sosua is not some European country where you can find an English speaking native on every corner. Let's face it, those that are offended by this behavior are mostly English speaking ex-patriots and tourists. These racist ex-patriots and tourists, are using the bad behavior of a few to promote their agenda. Then they point to the attempted clean up of Sosua and try to convince the gullible readers, that the foul mouth black guys from NYC are the reason for the government crack down.

For years Sosua has been a 24 hour open air market for sex. At any given time of the day one could see scantly clad women walking the streets of Sosua. Many of them overtly advertising their trade with the words "ficky ficky" or by physically grabbing a guy by the genitals for all to see. Other women could be seen walking the streets at mid day looking like they are going to, or coming from a porn shoot. These barely dressed women walked up and down Pedro Clisante all day with no apparent destination. They sat in the bars with their push up bras holding their large barely covered fun bags inches above the table with no drinks for hours, waiting for a potential client to buy them a drink.

Sosua has been a place where Dominican drug dealers openly offered drugs to tourist and locals on every corner and club along Perdro Clisante. Gun toting Dominicans could been seen on any given day of the week getting drunk off President and then attempting to sober up by sweating it out on the dance floor. Their bachata dance is often interrupted by their attempt to keep the holsterless gun from falling out of their pants.

Hundreds of motor bikes could be seen breaking every motor vehicle regulation known to man, giving tourist the impression that there are no rules or structure in the DR. Moto drivers carrying propane tanks while drinking a large Presidente is not an uncommon site.

On any given sunny day in Sosua, one could cross paths with a well spoken, polite white tourist/ex-patriot walking with his obviously underage looking Dominican companion.

All of this unacceptable behavior and more could be seen day or night in Sosua. It didn't matter if you were alone or with your teen age daughter. These undesired sights were seen by tourist and ex-patriots of all races from all countries.

So what has changed? I'm not sure. From what I read, seen, and heard, I don't think anyone knows with certainty. But what I do know is that the racist tourists/ex patriots would have you believe that everything was right in paradise until the foul mouth black guys from NYC came to Sosua. They would have you believe that the words of these guys graphically describing their escapades fell on the ears of the good Dominican people. These good people then demanded that Sosua be cleaned up.....Wait a minute. 99% of the Dominican population does not speak English. Then who has a problem with the foul mouth black guys from NYC? Answer: English speaking tourists and ex-patriots.

So may be: One morning some loud mouth black guys stumbled into a local watering hole that is popular with mongers(Rocky's). These guys began their loud mouth tales about the previous night. This time their words fell on the ears of "the gentleman monger", who speaks English. The gentleman monger is horrified by this language because he doesn't mind chasing chicas all night long, he just doesn't want to hear explicit tales about what he himself has been doing all night long. The complaints begin. Many complaints like this from the English speaking tourists/ex patriots reach the Dominican government which results in the clean up of Sosua. Right??

And if you believe that the Dominican government is cleaning up Sosua because of the words of some English speaking tourist then you are an idiot.

In fact if you live in DR or visit often, and you choose to take the time to champion the cause of doing something about these loud mouth guys, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Why? Because it is you who have quietly taken part in the open air meat market. It is you who stood by and said nothing about that European with the underage girl. It is you who kept silent about the drugs and guns that you saw. It is you who never petitions the for safer streets. Yet, you take time to constantly write in this forum and others about that which you think is easy. Being a racist is easy. As a racisir you can just ignore or take part in the real problems Sosua has and then focus on the problems of the groups that you hate the most.

I'm not saying that being loud or foul mouth is acceptable. I'm not saying that one can't express their opinion about this. However, there is topic has been written about more than any of the real problems of Sosua. Again I say, just find you own slice of paradise and enjoy the Dominican Republic the best way you know how.

Great post!!!!!
 

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How stupid does one have to be to think that the Dominican government decided to clean up Sosua because of too many loud foul mouth American tourists!!! Seriously people. Stop and think about this for a second. As appalling as this behavior is, it can only be offensive if you understand the language.

Sosua is not some European country where you can find an English speaking native on every corner. Let's face it, those that are offended by this behavior are mostly English speaking ex-patriots and tourists. These racist ex-patriots and tourists, are using the bad behavior of a few to promote their agenda. Then they point to the attempted clean up of Sosua and try to convince the gullible readers, that the foul mouth black guys from NYC are the reason for the government crack down.

For years Sosua has been a 24 hour open air market for sex. At any given time of the day one could see scantly clad women walking the streets of Sosua. Many of them overtly advertising their trade with the words "ficky ficky" or by physically grabbing a guy by the genitals for all to see. Other women could be seen walking the streets at mid day looking like they are going to, or coming from a porn shoot. These barely dressed women walked up and down Pedro Clisante all day with no apparent destination. They sat in the bars with their push up bras holding their large barely covered fun bags inches above the table with no drinks for hours, waiting for a potential client to buy them a drink.

Sosua has been a place where Dominican drug dealers openly offered drugs to tourist and locals on every corner and club along Perdro Clisante. Gun toting Dominicans could been seen on any given day of the week getting drunk off President and then attempting to sober up by sweating it out on the dance floor. Their bachata dance is often interrupted by their attempt to keep the holsterless gun from falling out of their pants.

Hundreds of motor bikes could be seen breaking every motor vehicle regulation known to man, giving tourist the impression that there are no rules or structure in the DR. Moto drivers carrying propane tanks while drinking a large Presidente is not an uncommon site.

On any given sunny day in Sosua, one could cross paths with a well spoken, polite white tourist/ex-patriot walking with his obviously underage looking Dominican companion.

All of this unacceptable behavior and more could be seen day or night in Sosua. It didn't matter if you were alone or with your teen age daughter. These undesired sights were seen by tourist and ex-patriots of all races from all countries.

So what has changed? I'm not sure. From what I read, seen, and heard, I don't think anyone knows with certainty. But what I do know is that the racist tourists/ex patriots would have you believe that everything was right in paradise until the foul mouth black guys from NYC came to Sosua. They would have you believe that the words of these guys graphically describing their escapades fell on the ears of the good Dominican people. These good people then demanded that Sosua be cleaned up.....Wait a minute. 99% of the Dominican population does not speak English. Then who has a problem with the foul mouth black guys from NYC? Answer: English speaking tourists and ex-patriots.

So may be: One morning some loud mouth black guys stumbled into a local watering hole that is popular with mongers(Rocky's). These guys began their loud mouth tales about the previous night. This time their words fell on the ears of "the gentleman monger", who speaks English. The gentleman monger is horrified by this language because he doesn't mind chasing chicas all night long, he just doesn't want to hear explicit tales about what he himself has been doing all night long. The complaints begin. Many complaints like this from the English speaking tourists/ex patriots reach the Dominican government which results in the clean up of Sosua. Right??

And if you believe that the Dominican government is cleaning up Sosua because of the words of some English speaking tourist then you are an idiot.

In fact if you live in DR or visit often, and you choose to take the time to champion the cause of doing something about these loud mouth guys, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Why? Because it is you who have quietly taken part in the open air meat market. It is you who stood by and said nothing about that European with the underage girl. It is you who kept silent about the drugs and guns that you saw. It is you who never petitions the for safer streets. Yet, you take time to constantly write in this forum and others about that which you think is easy. Being a racist is easy. As a racisir you can just ignore or take part in the real problems Sosua has and then focus on the problems of the groups that you hate the most.

I'm not saying that being loud or foul mouth is acceptable. I'm not saying that one can't express their opinion about this. However, there is topic has been written about more than any of the real problems of Sosua. Again I say, just find you own slice of paradise and enjoy the Dominican Republic the best way you know how.



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