Part 2 Fence construction

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I think the best option for me is to build a fence out of block;

can you give me some idea of what i will need to purchase so i dont get ripped off.

The length of the fence is 82 feet (25 metres) *5foot tall

could you break it down into costings for

footings (cement)

blocks (how many i will need to make 5 foot in height)

rebar how many bars and how many feet between each bar

anything else ive forgotten... dont include labour ive got that covered. Please give me some idea though for 2 men who can lay block how long it will take to do this job (i.e 1 week, two weeks etc)

Best place to buy this equipment on the north coast that includes delivery sosua area

thank you
 

dv8

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you are forgetting sand.
cannot help with the cost, it's been a long time we had a wall done.
ferreteria freddy in puerto plata has all materials, they do delivery.
 

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You need to find a "Maestro" to help you. Find the kind of wall you want,then ask the owner who built it for him.When you get a "Maestro" he will give you an "Estimate".You need to be sure you "BOTH" are on the same page as to EXACTLY what you want.Once you agree on a price,you MUST supervise the construction yourself.You need to know the price of the materials,INDEPENDENTLY,NOT just take his word for the costs.A 6 year old can present you a receipt for building materials for whatever amount he wants.The hardware store will do that for him.Explain that any additional materials are "On Him:,not YOU! Don't let your payments for the work get ahead of the construction.Divide in 20 % payments as work is completed.SAVE 20% to pay after you are satisfied with the job.This "Wall" will not be cheap! Get several estimates before you commit.Remember,you are the "JEFE" here.You are not looking for a "Buddy",but a "Maestro".Be FIRM!
AND,"Good Luck",you are in the DR!

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PS,once the materials are delivered,someone has to "Watch Them". Inventory everything as it arrives using the delivery invoice.
Things often undergo "Shrinkage" both during ,and after, being delivered.
 

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Hi
I think the best option for me is to build a fence out of block;

can you give me some idea of what i will need to purchase so i dont get ripped off.

The length of the fence is 82 feet (25 metres) *5foot tall

could you break it down into costings for

footings (cement)

blocks (how many i will need to make 5 foot in height)

rebar how many bars and how many feet between each bar

anything else ive forgotten... dont include labour ive got that covered. Please give me some idea though for 2 men who can lay block how long it will take to do this job (i.e 1 week, two weeks etc)

Best place to buy this equipment on the north coast that includes delivery sosua area

thank you

Do not forget the columns. Depending on the terrain, fence design and soil, you will probably need to put a concrete column with rebar integrated with footing (and footing rebar) about every 8 feet. If you go much higher, you may need to connect the columns with horizontal vigas. Much of your cost will be in the rebar and concrete needed for the project.
 

Chip

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You will also need to have a shallow footing along the length of the wall.

Have the maestro get the list of materials and quantities from the local ferreteria. If he won't get another maestro.

If you don't have a secure place for the materials only order a weeks worth at a time.

Payment is expected every week here, if you try to do it any differently expect to be charged more.
 
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hi Thanks for the responses

im really hoping for some input regarding how many blocks/ how much sand to buy/cement etc


I have been ripped in the past and want to do my homework first. I do appreciate your input thus far
 

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We've had several sections of block walls done.

If you were on the south coast I'd recommend our guy - before he began he gave us a list of what we needed, broken down individually with the cost from the ferreteria [where we have an account]. He would have it delivered as he needed it, always conferring with us first. We paid him only the labor, paid the ferreteria directly [who gave us 20% discount for using them]. On one section of wall [we're slowly but surely walling in 15 tareas] he underestimated his labor costs, and very frankly told us he'd made a mistake, but he also said it wasn't our problem.

Be sure to get references

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dv8

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You will also need to have a shallow footing along the length of the wall.

and that has to be filled with cement, for better support. basically is goes like this: dig a trench, about knee deep. fill with cement (with quite a lot of gravel) but not all the way to the top; first block goes below earth level. then blocks, with bars in the middle (sparsly put). i can see on our neighbour wall that he put a column every 7 blocks apart. column is also strenghtened with iron.

but what am i saying, i'm just a woman. as an excuse i can say i saw it being done well :)
 

dv8

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bueno, i called ferreteria freddy for you:
blocks of cement, size 8: 25 pesos, size 6: 19.50
bag of cement: 295
meter of sand, grueso: 900, fino: 1100
bars, sold by quintal (spelling?): 2250
 

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and that has to be filled with cement, for better support. basically is goes like this: dig a trench, about knee deep. fill with cement (with quite a lot of gravel) but not all the way to the top; first block goes below earth level. then blocks, with bars in the middle (sparsly put). i can see on our neighbour wall that he put a column every 7 blocks apart. column is also strenghtened with iron.

but what am i saying, i'm just a woman. as an excuse i can say i saw it being done well :)

Yes, and ours have another cement reinforcement along the entire top of the wall.

AE
 

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and that has to be filled with cement, for better support. basically is goes like this: dig a trench, about knee deep. fill with cement (with quite a lot of gravel) but not all the way to the top; first block goes below earth level. then blocks, with bars in the middle (sparsly put). i can see on our neighbour wall that he put a column every 7 blocks apart. column is also strenghtened with iron.

but what am i saying, i'm just a woman. as an excuse i can say i saw it being done well :)

A "footing" by it's very nature includes concrete and rebar so I don't really need to tell him this and also he shouldn't be trying to do the design the wall himself anyway.
 

dv8

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well, chip, with all due respect, people normally do not know how building work is done unless they see it themselves or are, like yourself, specialist in the field. layman see a wall, he does not know how it is made. :)
 

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well, chip, with all due respect, people normally do not know how building work is done unless they see it themselves or are, like yourself, specialist in the field. layman see a wall, he does not know how it is made. :)

Thanks for making my point for me.

If I explain like you did that he needs concrete and rebar etc and he tries to design a footing himself and the wall falls over at some point it wouldn't be good.
 

bachata

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Look the last tornadoe destroyed 70% of my backyard's fence, I've rebuild it my self. Wood is easier and cheaper than cement blocks.
Just went to Low store and Home depot for wood and screws and bought from Ebay a professional Ridgid impact driver to screw the thousands of 1.5 niche screws....

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I had to remove 8 big pain trees that were laying down over my fence.

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Thanks for making my point for me.

If I explain like you did that he needs concrete and rebar etc and he tries to design a footing himself and the wall falls over at some point it wouldn't be good.

Chip, dont think for me ever okay on what will be good or not for me. I was quite clear about what i asked for, i did not ask for your judgements ,okay! I asked for a breakdown or items and costs etc. DV8 was very helpful as were a few others . I never said i was doing it myself and infact did not reveal if i have a maestro or not... because i didnt want too and to be frank it is none of your business to know this. In future please answer the question or don't bother at all
 

bachata

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to the others that answered my questions thanks ... it was very helpful

Hire a couple Haitians they expert doing cement blocks fence and go around with the "Maestro" as he will charge you three time more and will pay the Haitians a miserable wage, I did so when I built the fence in the house I owned in DR before to move to US.
I paid more to the Haitians of what they was charging me as they did a very good job and at the end it cost me RD $ 7,000. less than the money the Dominican subcontractor was charging me.
There are some sort of constructions that need a to be supervised for a engineer or a maestro but not a fence...

JJ
 

Chip

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Chip, dont think for me ever okay on what will be good or not for me. I was quite clear about what i asked for, i did not ask for your judgements ,okay! I asked for a breakdown or items and costs etc. DV8 was very helpful as were a few others . I never said i was doing it myself and infact did not reveal if i have a maestro or not... because i didnt want too and to be frank it is none of your business to know this. In future please answer the question or don't bother at all

I am a professional engineer and my advice is given with the public's interest in mind - in other words you didn't make clear if you were having it properly designed so I'm not going to explain how to do a footing because someone could get hurt.
 

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I've read a number of these posts and it's sad to see how they seem to degenerate . A few suggestions if I may. Block wall construction is not difficult in principle....1. good foundation, level and deep enough for vertical load. 2. stagger block 3. add vertical rebar ( into footing every several feet 4. depending on height add metal block mesh ( steel) every four feet of vertical height. These are basic steps for a sound wall, that said also expect crack in wall eventually and if the wall is properly constructed, it will cost a lot of money in time and material. good luck and I might add wood would probably be a better choice depending on what the wall is to be used to achieve.