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    Default Important article in today's NY TImes

    Apparently the patience of many Dominicans towards the refugees from the earthquake is reaching the breaking point.

    Here is the link to the article, which I am sure will cause a lot of comment.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/31/wo...ines&emc=tha22

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    Default “It’s kind of an unsolvable issue,” - he seems to be correct

    “It’s kind of an unsolvable issue,” said Robert Maguire, a Haiti scholar at George Washington University.

    Sadly Mr. Maguire seems to have that right. There is no solution, easy or difficult, to this problem that will be enacted.

    One thing I dislike seeing by the often biased and liberal NY Times is the pointing out of the law that the DR got right regarding no anchor babies. That is the business of the DR government and nobody else's.

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    First, i take umbrance at the tone of the article, as it promotes the myth that Haitians are the victims and Dominicans are the victimizers. More so, with the mention of that hysterical historical pseudo fact of "the massacre of thousands of Haitians by the Dominican military in 1937".

    Every day, around 5 am, 4 large open-bed trucks cross the Irabón river and drive up to Las Lomas de Azua to pick up most of the young physically able male residents. They are then driven about 1 hour away to the plantations, where they work until early evening. Each worker is paid 200 pesos, and is given one single meal during the day, which usually consists of a gruel made of beans and rice. About 10% of these workers are Haitian, and according to my informants, non-documented Haitians are paid 150 pesos, and are given no food. Nobody complains. Not even the Haitians. There's no other alternative work available in the region.

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    Hysterical?
    Historical pseudofact?

    So it is becoming like a myth - apocryphal perhaps?

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    not that it did not happen.... just that 1937 was a very long time ago and it appears that NOTHING that the DR does will ever erase that incident. And there is never a mention of the fact that the Haitian government at time accepted reparation payments for the deaths. So let us move on. It is not as if every article on the DR and Haiti points out that the DR spends about a third of its health budget caring for Haitians.

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    One of the biggest obstacles to the reconstruction of Haiti is that donor countries do not want to give cash. Cash get lost or stolen, but once you pour cement or asphalt, it has to stay where it was placed. If the Hatian government cannot exert control over their people, who can? It is not the Function of the DR to provide food, lodging, health services, and jobs to the Hatian people. The fact that the DR is a hospitible nation, and is trying to ease the pains of many who lost everything, should not be taken as an act of weakness, but of heart. How about if the Dr sends a bill to the UN for the $ amount of its expenditures on behalf of the Hatian people? Do you think that the member nations would pay it, or as usual they would just say screw you?

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    The number one reason why things aren't getting better in Quisqueya is the fact that the Haitian politicians are making it impossible for the reconstruction work to begin because they want the money to go through them or be part of the vetting process. With regard to the latter, they aim to make it a "pay to play" process because this is how it has always been in Haiti. The ironic part is the foreigners always get the blame and yet the common Haitian man is the one paying the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJL6767 View Post
    How about if the Dr sends a bill to the UN for the $ amount of its expenditures on behalf of the Hatian people? Do you think that the member nations would pay it, or as usual they would just say screw you?
    This is not such an outlandish idea. The French international cooperation minister may even have set a precedent in January 2010 when he told the DR health authorities that they would be reimbursed for the health expenses incurred in the aftermath of the earthquake - providing the DR presented the accounts. Was this done?

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    Look the bottom line is that DR is not first world country with first world resources. It can barely take care of it's own let alone all of these refugees. The rebuilding of Haiti if and when it begins in earnest should provide enough economic opportunity and incentive for these people to return home. In the aftermath of the earthquake DR did God's work in taking care of it's neighbor and for that everyone should be eternally grateful.

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    Very insightful comments.. Well done people. I think that the sum total is more or less what I feel about this situation. Perhaps not the outright exploitation that Mirador talks about, the Haitians that work farms up here in the Cibao get paid a lot more than 150 pesos a day and found, but the other ideas are really to the point.

    I loved Annie's idea of pointing out the massive resources spent on Haitians in the DR hospitals and public clinics, then RJL chimed in and suggested we bill the UN, and finally, Chirimoya pops up and says:"Yes, the French will back us up~!" How great is that. Of course the bills have to be drawn up..but I am sure it can be done!!

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