Employee Liquidation

CocoBoy

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In calculating the liquidation payment owed to an employee, is their salary at the time of liquidation used? Or is it determined by the different salary levels and durations over the course of their employment? Thanks.
 

belmont

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Something doesn't sound right with only entering the last few months if paid weekly. As I understand it, liquidation is based on average over the last 12 months. If salary has not changed, no problem as average will be same. But if raise was given in last year, this calculation would be too high. I use this calculator (it's in English) and never had a problem with Labor Dept. Drprestamos | Loan Calculator | Amortization Table | Loan
 

Coralia

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Verification an employee needs to be at least be emploeyd for 3 months to be able to get liquidation, the liquidation will be calculated in regard due the period of tim the employe was employed...the employee needs to apply for liquidation within 48 hours of being layed off or fired...so its always wise to handle over a letter of dismissed signed by both parties so there will be no misleading or misunderstanding...wink....
 

belmont

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Verification an employee needs to be at least be emploeyd for 3 months to be able to get liquidation, the liquidation will be calculated in regard due the period of tim the employe was employed...the employee needs to apply for liquidation within 48 hours of being layed off or fired...so its always wise to handle over a letter of dismissed signed by both parties so there will be no misleading or misunderstanding...wink....
Even though employed less than 3 months and not eligible for liquidation, they are entitled to christmas bonus prorated. You still need to run the numbers. There is no rule that requires employee to apply for liquidation, but there is a rule that requires the employer to have payment for liquidation, preaviso and cesantia to the employee within 10 days of termination. Christmas pay can be paid in December when usually paid to other employees.
 

CocoBoy

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Is the employee due cesantia in addition to preaviso, vacaciones and navidad if they are the one that resigned? Thanks for the link to calculate these figures.
 

belmont

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The cesantia is due in either case, even if the employee suffers no period of enemplyment and begins work with new employer immediately. What is a question though is payment of preaviso for an employee who quits. Technicall he is supposed to give you the same notice that you were responsible to give him if you were firing him. Most times an employer doesn't want an employee present who he has given notice to, nor an employee who has indicated he is leaving. So in most cases preaviso is paid in lieu of notice. This is the best english summary of the Labor Code I have seen. http://www.phlaw.com/pubs/rejec/en/ren_16-92_Main_aspects_of_the_Labor_Legislation.pdf
 
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I have a Dominican living in my place for the last 8 years. His girlfriend has also been there for 6 years and her son for 4-5 years. The thing is, he doesn't get paid, it is a trade off thing, he lives in a nice house and he watches over my home.
If he were to leave, or I sell, sould there be liquidation to pay? No paperwork, no pay and he pays most luz bills. Five bedrooms, three washrooms, pool, new furniture, new windows, 50" LED tv, brand new theatre seating, 27 cubic ft brand new french door fridge etc. He drives my motto and my Ford Explorer.
When batteries are needed, i pay, new fans etc, all repairs I pay. He tends the garden and has painted at times.
When i arrive, i fill the fridge with 10,000 pesos worth of food, pay for most things. When i leave, three times a year, I usually shoot him 5-7 thousand pesos as well as a couple more thousand for the novia and novias kid
Seems a win win arrangement but not if i am expected to pay liquidation.
What would it be based on if his payment is living in my house 365 and I go for 6-8.5 weeks.
If it is based on his pay, it would be zero.
I mean otherwise, I would have to pay the novia and kid too, jeje.

I think this person would be considered "domestic help" which is much different from an employee at a business. There has been debate (both in the government and here on DR1) about adding domestic workers to liquidation benefits. But my understanding is that as of now, liquidation payment is not required for domestic help, just pay the Christmas bonus and Vacation time payment that they are owed for that year.
But some domestic workers will try to get liquidation money also. Check to see where the labor law is before termination, because they are discussing adding the benefits to domestic help, which could become an excessive burden for middle class families to account for and that presently find it affordable to have a maid.
 

mountainannie

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My former maid went to the labor court and got a judgement for liquidation pay .. it was not very much but she was only part time.. but making 8000 a month. I perhaps made the mistake of paying her by the month instead of by the day.

But the Dominican who is in your house has a sweet set up.. so you may have an issue if you try to move him out. Sounds like he lives in the house even when you are there, right?

If I were in your place, I would get some sort of contract in place with him drawn up by a lawyer. And I think that you should be prepared to pay him something if you sell, so that he can get another place. He must work somewhere else, right, ? in order to pay the electric bills?
 

SKing

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I have a Dominican living in my place for the last 8 years. His girlfriend has also been there for 6 years and her son for 4-5 years. The thing is, he doesn't get paid, it is a trade off thing, he lives in a nice house and he watches over my home.
If he were to leave, or I sell, sould there be liquidation to pay? No paperwork, no pay and he pays most luz bills. Five bedrooms, three washrooms, pool, new furniture, new windows, 50" LED tv, brand new theatre seating, 27 cubic ft brand new french door fridge etc. He drives my motto and my Ford Explorer.
When batteries are needed, i pay, new fans etc, all repairs I pay. He tends the garden and has painted at times.
When i arrive, i fill the fridge with 10,000 pesos worth of food, pay for most things. When i leave, three times a year, I usually shoot him 5-7 thousand pesos as well as a couple more thousand for the novia and novias kid
Seems a win win arrangement but not if i am expected to pay liquidation.
What would it be based on if his payment is living in my house 365 and I go for 6-8.5 weeks.
If it is based on his pay, it would be zero.
I mean otherwise, I would have to pay the novia and kid too, jeje.

Damn...where were you when I moved to DR?

SHALENA
 
I think this person would be considered "domestic help" which is much different from an employee at a business. There has been debate (both in the government and here on DR1) about adding domestic workers to liquidation benefits. But my understanding is that as of now, liquidation payment is not required for domestic help, just pay the Christmas bonus and Vacation time payment that they are owed for that year.
But some domestic workers will try to get liquidation money also. Check to see where the labor law is before termination, because they are discussing adding the benefits to domestic help, which could become an excessive burden for middle class families to account for and that presently find it affordable to have a maid.

What I don't get if it is not law to pay domestic help liquidation then why have friends of mine been sued by maids, gardeners, guards etc who they have fired bc of stealing and the employees end up winning the lawsuit?!
Cresp is a good friend of mine and I am worried for him that he will get screwed over!
 

caribeman

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Get professional help. Just went through this. An employee here is due MANY things - vacation, liquidation, pension etc... And I assure you, if you are off one peso the individual has the right and will go to the labor board. They will calculate it and bring it back to you.

You will need to know the day and date they started, the history of their pay and as well if they have taken their vacations this year or received pay instead...and so on and so forth.
 

Fabio J. Guzman

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If an employee resigns, there is neither cesant?a nor preaviso, just vacaciones (if the employee has not taken them) and navidad.

A maid is a domestic: no liquidation is required by law. mountainannie, did you defend yourself?
 

AlterEgo

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If an employee resigns, there is neither cesant?a nor preaviso, just vacaciones (if the employee has not taken them) and navidad.

A maid is a domestic: no liquidation is required by law.
mountainannie, did you defend yourself?

THANK YOU!! You've just answered a very important question.
 

Dolores1

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I understand that if the property is owned by a company, the "domestic" help can claim full employee benefits.
If the property is in a person's name, this should not rightfully apply.
This is a tricky situation because the person could make a case of the housing setup being part of the payment.
Worthy of inquiring with the Ministerio de Trabajo to see what they say before taking any action.