Cedula / residencia renewal

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I need correct info on the current laws. I have a client, (he only speaks French and Spanish and so that is why I am writing for him), that has a temporary residencia and cedula that expired in 2006. He has never attempted to renew either of them and since then has married a Dominican lady and they have a child together, obviously born in the Dominican Republic. He now wants to renew both of them. Firstly is this at all possible or will he have to go through the entire process again? If he can renew what is the cost taking into account the fines he will have to pay? If he can't then does he have to leave the country to apply for both residencia and cedula? Does the fact that he is married to a Dominican and has a Dominican child make any difference to the application, be it a renewal or a new application?
Many thanks.
 

mido

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Under normal circumstances you really should ask a lawyer who knows, you won't find the answer on this board.
Under the special circumstances at the moment, I doubt that even your lawyer could give you a definite answer.

It looks like you have to wait for an answer until it is finally published how DR authorities will implement the new regulation.
 

donluis99

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Simple - for expired until August 8th 2012.......then new rules apply

renewed this morning, expired only 7 monthes, paid 7 x RD$1,000.00 plus regular fees, total RD$14,500.00, had all my docs in a row, in by 8:30 a.m. was out by 9:30 a.m.

Before that, in 2009 renewed after expired for 6 years, paid the expiration fine, then was RD$250.00 per month....

Now again they are only doing for 2 years, then you can go 4 years.

g'luck
 

mido

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...renewed this morning, expired only 7 monthes, paid 7 x RD$1,000.00 plus regular fees, total RD$14,500.00, had all my docs in a row, in by 8:30 a.m. was out by 9:30 a.m...
So that means they charge you RD$1,000.00 per month of expiration now, wow, that's hefty!!!
 

SantiagoDR

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Hurry, hurry, hurry!

Get to Migracion in the Capital before August

Seriously!

Migracion in Santiago has already made the statement to me to MAKE sure my friend renews before August.

Don't read, don't think about it, get there before August.

It can only get worse.

Bring "Money".......
 

Matilda

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So that means they charge you RD$1,000.00 per month of expiration now, wow, that's hefty!!!

According to Santiago Immigration it is 300 RD$ per month or 2,500RD$ per year. That is the same as the old figures - no change.

Matilda
 

mido

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According to Santiago Immigration it is 300 RD$ per month or 2,500RD$ per year. That is the same as the old figures - no change.

Matilda
Well, if you read donluis99's post then you see that he paid RD$1,000 per month of expiration. I am with SantiagoDR, better hurry up. Who knows, maybe all the staff is changed when the new government takes over, then we will have a real mess.
 

william webster

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Well, if you read donluis99's post then you see that he paid RD$1,000 per month of expiration. I am with SantiagoDR, better hurry up. Who knows, maybe all the staff is changed when the new government takes over, then we will have a real mess.

That is most helpful comment yet - anywhere on this subject.

As an example, I was there for cedula/resdidncia 4yrs ago -- the dayafter the swearing in of the new gov't.
Chaos wouldn't be descriptive enough.

My lawyer (Guzman) apologized for the confusion and resulting delay in our processing.
All new people in the old jobs overnight and no "relationships" yet established .

If anybody is near expiry - RUN, don 't walk to the nearest renewal office before August.
 

Mauricio

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I wonder if you could speak of renewal when you have a temporary residence and I wonder if changing from temporary to permanent is included in the period until august.

When I applied for my permanent residence beginning of january I paid 4500 pesos for the residency, which is 2000 for the residency and 2500 for late charges (5 months late), so 500 pesos per month. I dont know where the 1000 pesos comes from, but maybe renovation charges are different from late charges when CHANGING from temporary to permanent. What did cost me a lot were the late charges on renewing my cedula last week: 7000 pesos for 14 months (also 500 pesos per month) but I heard / read something about a grace period in effect since July until December only paying 3000 pesos for renewing the cedula (6 months only, no matter the time).

However, I am not sure if changing from temporary to permanent is possible with the old rules until August, you will need a medical test, notarized and legalized letters etc., besides this process takes about 5 months and all this time you cant get the new cedula, and when you will be able to get it you have to pay the late charges over all this months waiting (and chances are this is past the supposed grace period), they could charge 40,000 pesos only for the cedula. I would start a new application, even when this means applying for the residence visa outside DR.
 

william webster

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I think that all the "old" rules apply until the August deadline.

It would be worth a trip - I would go , if I were you, just to try and do it.
No big deal , nice evening and diner in SDQ if all fails.
 

Mauricio

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Just reading the the post from Guzman in the other thread that you CAN get your permanent residence with the old rules depositing before August, but BE AWARE that depositing means that your medical test is done (results you get after 14 days) and in those 14 days you need to make sure you get all the papers: good conduct, guarantee letter if applies, etc. etc., marriage act if I remember well. You NEED to start now to have a chance to deposit on time. If your client left the country since 2006 they will start counting from the day he entered if I am not mistaken to calculate the late charges (because he paid the late charges then already in the airport). So if he entered DR for the last time 5 months ago, he only pays 5 months late charges (for the residency) (IF IM NOT MISTAKEN) and then the late charges for the cedula, that might be only 3000 pesos if I understood the grace period for cedula renewal the JCE proclaimed well, or else about 40,000 pesos.
 

Mauricio

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ooh...it s not 3000 pesos for late charges on cedula renewal, that s a minimum, so the late charges for the cedula are 500 pesos per month. If your client hasnt left DR since 2006 it s going to be a costly endeavour (in total more than a RD$100,000)
 

Matilda

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It is quite straightforward really. Residencias are 4000 or 4500 for renewal plus 1000 for VIP plus any fine. Fine is 300 a month or 2500 a year. Cedulas are 1000 to renew plus 500 a month for late renewal. The JCE has allowed anyone who renews from July to December to pay a max of 3000 RD$ even if they owe more for late renewal.

No new late charges have been announced, and the website is under construction so all existing charges still apply.

Matilda
 

Mauricio

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2006-2012=6 years 6 years is 72 months 72 months times (you say 500 pesos per month)=RD36000
what is the other RD64000 for?

You have 500 pesos per month for the cedula (Matilda says its 3000 pesos no matter how long, I thought it was like that, but I just read an article that states its 500 pesos per month and minimum 3000 pesos. Then you have 500 pesos per month for the estadia / atraso. Matilda says in her post it's 300 pesos per month, but I suppose that s permanent residence renewal, when changing from temporal to permanent you pay 500 pesos per month, and if I am correct that since the day you entered the country for the last time, and probably deducting the 30 days you are allowed to stay without residence. I am looking at my file right now: I entered the country in the beginning of august 2011 last time paid my residence the 30st of december and had to pay 4000 pesos, 2000 pesos for the residence (the service they are providing) and 2000 pesos in ESTADIA O ATRASO. Again, when changing from temporal to permanent this seems to be ESTADIA and not ATRASO, so I paid for september, october, november and december = 4 x 500. OP's client will have to pay (depending on his birthday, cedula's expire on your birthday) 36,000 to 42,000. Then for the residence, if he never left DR since 2006: again about 40,000 pesos, there you have about 80,000 pesos. Add the medical test of 4500 and the letters you have to notarize and legalize (add another 5000) + declaration of good conduct, you are at 90,000 pesos, when granted the residence you have to pay 5500 for the 'plastico', so I think 100,000 is not far off (IF HE NEVER LEFT DR). If he did leave DR in the meantime, for example entered the country after a vacation a year ago you are looking at half of that at least.
 

Chirimoya

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You have 500 pesos per month for the cedula (Matilda says its 3000 pesos no matter how long, I thought it was like that, but I just read an article that states its 500 pesos per month and minimum 3000 pesos. Then you have 500 pesos per month for the estadia / atraso. Matilda says in her post it's 300 pesos per month, but I suppose that s permanent residence renewal, when changing from temporal to permanent you pay 500 pesos per month, and if I am correct that since the day you entered the country for the last time, and probably deducting the 30 days you are allowed to stay without residence. I am looking at my file right now: I entered the country in the beginning of august 2011 last time paid my residence the 30st of december and had to pay 4000 pesos, 2000 pesos for the residence (the service they are providing) and 2000 pesos in ESTADIA O ATRASO. Again, when changing from temporal to permanent this seems to be ESTADIA and not ATRASO, so I paid for september, october, november and december = 4 x 500. OP's client will have to pay (depending on his birthday, cedula's expire on your birthday) 36,000 to 42,000. Then for the residence, if he never left DR since 2006: again about 40,000 pesos, there you have about 80,000 pesos. Add the medical test of 4500 and the letters you have to notarize and legalize (add another 5000) + declaration of good conduct, you are at 90,000 pesos, when granted the residence you have to pay 5500 for the 'plastico', so I think 100,000 is not far off (IF HE NEVER LEFT DR). If he did leave DR in the meantime, for example entered the country after a vacation a year ago you are looking at half of that at least.
Yes, I'm confused too. I also understood the article on the JCE website to mean a minimum of RD$3000 + 500 per month, although if they are declaring a "grace period" Matilda's interpretation makes much more sense.
La informaci?n la ofreci? el presidente de la JCE doctor Roberto Rosario M?rquez, luego de concluido la sesi?n del pleno de este viernes en la que se determin? que los ciudadanos extranjeros que viven en el pa?s deben pagar un m?nimo de RD$3,000.00 (tres mil pesos) equivalente a 6 meses de actualizaci?n del documento.
El plazo que beneficia a los ciudadanos extranjeros para la actualizaci?n de su documento de identidad es desde el primero de julio de 2012 hasta el 31 de diciembre 2012, concediendo una gracia de un pago de s?lo RD$500.00 (500 pesos) por mes.
http://www.jce.gob.do/Portada/Noticias/tabid/114/sni[435]/316/Default.aspx
 

Matilda

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Yes Chiri there is a grace period again for cedulas from July 1 to Dec 31, irrespective of how long cedula is overdue. The max charge is 3000 plus the 1000 for renewal.

Residency is different and there is no grace period. I was talking about renewal of permanent residence which is a max of 2500 a year for each year not renewed.

Matilda
 

Mauricio

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Yes, I'm confused too. I also understood the article on the JCE website to mean a minimum of RD$3000 + 500 per month, although if they are declaring a "grace period" Matilda's interpretation makes much more sense.
http://www.jce.gob.do/Portada/Noticias/tabid/114/sni[435]/316/Default.aspx
I think they mean with grace period that even though you have let it expire it won't be suspended. (that what they said in 2011 when they had a similar grace period). Anyway, last week (but that was still June) I had to pay 9000 pesos for my new cedula. 2000 for the cedula and 7000 in late charges.(14 months)
 

Mauricio

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Yes Chiri there is a grace period again for cedulas from July 1 to Dec 31, irrespective of how long cedula is overdue. The max charge is 3000 plus the 1000 for renewal.



Matilda

No, that s not correct. JCE states on their website its 500 pesos per month (only) with a minimum of 3000 pesos.