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    Default Construction Buffs - familiar with this??

    Hello everyone,

    Been a while visiting on DR1. I am here right now in NYC working. Trying to get this solar bought by August. After talking to a couple of Santiago Real Estate personnel, the loan officer at my bank (Asociacion Cibao), and the Dominican family that I rent a room from in NYC, the consensus has been BUILD...don't BUY. I am both excited and terrified.
    I have been notified of a new building technique by a real estate friend of mine and a maestro that apparently saves some money on construction and is being used by some maestros in Santiago, one who just finished building an apartment building with this method. Anyway, I am posting a link that one sent to me so that I could get familiar with it and see if I would like to build this way.
    As always, I am checking with you guys to see if anyone is familiar with this or if its all a crock of mierda.

    Formaletas | Proceso de construccion con formaletas de aluminio

    I consulted Chip to see what today's going rates are for building and he told me between
    20,000rd-22,000rd/m2, Victor's dad who is in this business told me about 18,000-19,500rd/m2 and this new "process" has been quoted to me as approximately 15,000rd/m2 or less.
    Has anyone built lately to give me a little perspective?
    I am not using my ex (Victor's dad) because we have a good relationship and I'm very particular and don't want to mix business with, well, not pleasure but....."getting alongness" just like I wouldn't buy a car from a friend.
    He will be doing the checking for me though once building commences, as well as my close real estate friend.

    Thanks in advance for any advice. I have a house plan but I think it is too big and I want to finish the house in a year and a half, I will only have $8,000 per month to go towards the construction so I'm trying to find another that I like that is smaller in size.

    Thanks again,
    SHALENA

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    Shalena, that technique has been here for a few years. A developer, before he was murdered, was building with this technique in Cabarete. He was telling me its WAY faster than building with blocks and if the contractor is any good you can build a floor every 3-4 days. (this being a 4 floor, 4 units per floor building). If you are in Cabarete you can see the buildings, not finished, by the bomba Texaco. They are the green ones.

    The only problem, is that not many contractors are experienced. Possibly, and hopefully in your case, things have changed. IMO it is the way to build your house.

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    Thanks so much. My real estate friend is taking me by the apartment buildings in Santiago built with this method. I just wanted to see if anyone else had heard of it because my trust factor has gone down a lot and I don't want to throw $150,000 at a construction that ends up being a piece of crap. I am working 7 days a week in NYC when I am here and it will be the house built out of my blood, sweat, and tears....literally.
    Do you know of ay contractors experienced in that in Santiago? Of course, I'm being introduced to the one that built the apartments but I would like to "interview" 3 or 4 if possible. Getting the solar in August and then hope to start January 2014.

    SHALENA

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    Formaletas are a good system and they are fast. However there are a couple of issues:

    1. You can't use a maestro(because he doesn't own the forms) but will need to have a contractor do it for you and it will be more than RD20k per m2 if not more because of his chiripa.

    2. Formaletas come in standardized sizes, so no tweeking your house plans allowed. This also requires extra coordination between the architect and contractor which means you will be charged more and not get exactly what you want.

    Formaletas are great for commercial and some homebuilders but bad for custom built homes.

    To save money one can go with paneles aligerados or a Plyrock/sheetrock system.

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    I will be watching your post and the replies - as we will begin the process of building sometime this fall. Land has been purchased and am currently looking at simple building plans, so any ideas are always helpful.

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    I was considering this building technique for an office I was going to build but because the forms are a "standard size" and I couldn't tweak them I decided not to do it. The apartments I saw being built like this were in the La Union area near Puerto Plata. They went up extremely quickly and are, for all intents and purposes, the same as poured concrete walls so they are exceptionally strong.

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    shalena, i am not a construction specialist so forgive me if my post if not what you were looking for...

    i think it is always best to go with simple and local. and here in DR that means cement blocks and traditional methods. one thing is the cost of materials and another thing, as chip mentioned, is the cost of construction. with normal blocks you could get virtually anyone to to the job, and do the job well and fast. if you'd have to look at hiring special team to do the job you are looking at higher costs.

    in addition, with cement blocks you can purchase majority of the materials at the beginning of the construction and store them on the spot. you could stop the construction at nearly every point of the way whenever the money runs short. one floor, half the floor, whatever. just stacking the blocks together and putting up a raw building is a fairly speedy process. you can then halt the work until you have money to do floors, windows, kitchen, bathrooms and so on.

    PM me in case you'd like to consult an architect. my SIL runs her own company here in POP. will travel if needed.

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    Excellent point D

    The pour is a continuous process......... blocks = anybody, anytime.

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    yes, of course, the roof or the floor has to be done in one go. but blocks? heck, you could put one a day. it does not matter much.

    plus, i think i saw on the pictures that all cables and pipes go between the aluminium blocks? not sure how would you go about fixing anything. with cement blocks you can dig in, break, rewire, redo the plumbing, anything that takes your fancy.

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    The new foam/rebar process might suit her better....fast, economical

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