Obnoxious Gringos!

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Charles Lowman

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I am a DR1 member who, after a couple of years of mostly reading posts and doing few commenting, finally made the move to DR. I must admit, getting settled in has been more challenging than I had imagined, but finally I am beginning to see the proverbial light at the end of the tunnel.

What I am surprised by is the few negative experiences that I've had with Dominicans here in Santiago (centre de Cuidad region) but the few positive experiences that I've had with fellow gringos here.

Why must it be assumed that because I am a gringo that I am here to have sex with a bunch of Dominican women? Even if I was such a person of moral ineptitude, why assume that I want to sit around and talk about it?

Dude! Can't we have an intelligent conversation about business opportunities, getting to know local culture and customs, a beautiful monogamous relationship that you've established and maintained with a Dominicana, baseball, the weather, heck anything other than stories of cheap sex and the fulfillment of your obvious pedophile fantasies?

I've only been here a few months but I'm starting to develop the ability to spot these obnoxious trolls a mile away and avoid them like the plague. Which unfortunately has led me to develop another stereotype (that I really need to work on ridding myself of) that causes me to typically avoid any Dominican woman who has a child from a gringo 'relationship' that didn't result in marriage. My stereotypical assumption is that the 'jimmie hat' sprung a leak when this prostitute was doing the rapido with one of these same gringo types that I've been trying to avoid.

I keep a personal diary of my experiences here in my newly adopted country. I am not some high and mighty model of piety looking down his nose on people. I just try to live a 'balanced life' and don't like it when others make asinine assumptions. Now before the anti-religious DR1 warhawks swoop down upon me and brand me a 'Jesus freak' let me share a little something from my diary.

[My conversation with the 'chula de barrio' a few moments ago as she approached me on my way from the colmado]

She: Se?or, I have been watching you and there is something very different about you that I find very attractive.

Me: Gracias. But what do you find so different about me?

She: I notice that you do not drink cervesa or alcohol. You do not smoke. I don't see you with many different women like the other gringos. Are you a Christian?

Me: No. But I am a follower of Jesus Christ and a believer in the message that he brought us and in his ultimate return.

She: How can you proclaim this and not be a Christian?

Me: if you spent years teaching me what you knew and instructing me in your way, but after you left me, another people came and claimed that you taught me something different. If I reject what you taught me and accept what these people taught me and attribute it to you, am I following you or am I following these other people?

She: you would definitely not be following me.

Me: In order for me to call myself Christian, I have to reject what Jesus Christ taught and accept concepts that he didn't teach but were introduced by others and attributed to him. So what are you....a Christian?

She: jejeje...No comment.

[NOTE to self...MAKE IT PLAIN!]
 
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So you explained that you were a follower of Christ, but not a Christian. Perhaps that is why she decided not to comment.
 

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First let me wipe the puke of my key-board. I don't discus business with anyone who uses the term "Dude" or anything else of significance for that matter.
 

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First let me wipe the puke of my key-board. I don't discus business with anyone who uses the term "Dude" or anything else of significance for that matter.....



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Charles Lowman

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First let me wipe the puke of my key-board. I don't discus business with anyone who uses the term "Dude" or anything else of significance for that matter.
LOL....good one.
I feel the same way about guys who have nothing intelligent to approach you with than conversation about their ''conquests'' that any idiot with a fistful of pesos could manage, or even worse, their pedophilic binges that would land them in prison or even better, a father's shotgun shoved in their mouth if they tried that crap back home.
 
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"Willie"
I do not agree with 99% of your conceptions about "Life,Love, and your "Dominican Experience", but if you see life here the way you described it,who cares???
Just hope you are happy. :):):)
Ranting on & on about the choices others here make, devalues you entire post.
Most of us on DR1 ARE "Believers".
But we all "Believe" in different ways, and degrees.
My 4 kids are being raised in the Catholic Faith.
I support them in that.
As they grow older, they can make their own choices in what the choose to "Believe".
I'm a "Ying/Yang", "Karma" kind of "Dude"!
Buy I mostly follow the teachings of "Poon Tang".
I worship :lick::lick::lick:there as often as I can afford!
MANY others here do as well!
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Chip, your a "Cristiano", Who Knew?????
What are your views on Abortion???????
 

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Interesting post, thanks CL. Made me wonder about the term Gringo, as used in the DR. Maybe some of you fine posters could clarify the use of Gringo by Dominicans.

Where I come from it is a pejorative term used exclusively for dumb white men. Is this so for the DR? Is is used just for Americans, or any white persons? Is it used casually, or reserved for that bad behavior we see so much of?

As for me, Dominicans can call me anything they want when I am in their country. No Dominican has ever called me Gringo to my face, rather I hear amigo querido.

As for CL: no matter where you are in the world you will find no more harsh criticism than from one of your own countrymen. i.e. have you ever been to Paris? Nothing new in observing bad behavior by white men in the DR. Other than the Jesus confusion, good post!
 

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Dominicans use "Gringo" as a description,not a "Slur".
"El Gringo Alto".
"El es Dominicano,?No Gringo".
"Por un Gringo, tu si sabes"!
Also to state where a product "comes from","Una manzana Gringo".
'Un pelotero Gringo".
I suppose it CAN BE derogatory but that would be more of the inflection of the speaker.
"Maldito Gringo".
To most of us, it's a "Non Issue".
I have described myself as, "El Grandulon Gringo" many times.
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I don't think the post goes that far. But if it did for you in just a few seconds of reading it. I suggest you let it marinate for a bit longer. Maybe it will come to you...and then maybe not.

Funny, I was thinking something similar, in that how much your perspective will change after being here for more time. Glad you're keeping a diary. Be sure to write details of your emotional and intellectual response to what you see and experience. Then in two years, see how much you change.

There was a great thread on here that really helped me sort it all out. The first few months, honeymoon stage, and everything is incredible. After that, frustration, because even buying a newspaper can be an ordeal if I bring anything over 25 pesos. And finally, learning to not sweat the small stuff and go with the flow. What I still haven't learned is to keep my mouth shut when I need to, but I think (hope) I am getting better.
 

Charles Lowman

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@Nueral.....that's an interesting point of clarification that you're raising. This is the first time I heard the term 'gringo' being used exclusively for 'white men' and 'dumb' ones at that! I just asked a Dominican friend sitting here next to me if I was a gringo, he responded in the affirmative. But I'm dark enough to be mistaken for being Haitian until I open my mouth and reveal that I'm just a black dude from America..(there's that 'dude' term again).
 

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Why must it be assumed that because I am a gringo that I am here to have sex with a bunch of Dominican women? Even if I was such a person of moral ineptitude, why assume that I want to sit around and talk about it?

personally, i'd rather talking about a good f**k than about "good news", but that's just me, with my moral ineptitude.
 

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"Black People", have a long and sad history of being called "Names" that categorize them, almost exclusively in the derogatory.
I may be possible, that you, as a "Black Dude" are somewhat more conditioned to think that any "Slang" term would be derogatory.
All of us, when we are in an unfamiliar place, especially where we don't understand the language,often think that others are speaking about us, or making fun of us, just because we can't understand what is being said.
When a word we do understand, like "Gringo" pops out, we think they mean us.
I had a Gringo, non Spanish speaking, friend of mine get all upset because the Dominican I was conversing with said "America Central' in conversation, and my friend KNEW we we talking about him!!!
PS, I am VERY smart man, and Very White, but yet, SOMEHOW, I enjoy the intimate company of many Dominican "PUTAS"!
How do you explain THAT???????????
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"Gringo" ismost often used to mean "Foreigner".
If they want o make a clearer description they might say, "Rubio" meaning a White Gringo, or a "Moreno" meaning Black/Brown Gringo.
 

neural

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Yea, I was wondering about that too. I have an American friend that is an orthopedic surgeon, and black. He does lots of free stuff for the poor in Santiago....I wondered if he is a Gringo!~
 

suarezn

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You're ALL gringos...

As CC said it's not a pejorative term in The DR. It just means you're not Dominican, Haitian, Cuban or Puerto Rican...and of course that you're all rich :D. Can you lend me 200 USD? My auntie needs to have operation ASAP and me have no money. You nice Gringo...I promise I pay back soon.:rolleyes:
 
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