Greek gang of Trafficking Prostitutes Busted

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...and Italy and Spain and Switzerland and Netherlands and Haiti and Panama and Argentina and NY/NJ/MIA and Sint Maarten and Curacau and Bahamas and Belize and on and on and on.

The Country exports more Pum-Pum than cigars. Why do they keep trying to make this "news" when there's nothing new about it? The agents who recruit these Women prefer non-professionals and the monetary incentives of the "fake waitress" business are of course wildly overstated and so they are encouraged by family members to take 90 days out of their otherwise mundane, hopeless and impoverished lives to provide thousands of dollars for the good of the family. In short, todays Dominican "fake waitresses" are like the British Sailors of the 17th and 18th centuries.

They generate hundreds of dollars a day but they are also charged for their miserable meals and accommodations at 4 star rates and their upkeep, wardrobe and toiletries come out of their pocket directly when abroad so they almost always arrive back home with far less than they and their families had expected but enough to not only tempt them to apply for another visa but also to recruit relatives and friends with their tales of opulence and excitement during their travels.

It's not unlike the resort business or the cruise ship business or the construction business or the refinery business where most of the low end jobs are staffed by workers from the poorest countries. What can I say? Some people build the hotels, laying brick and mortar in the hot Sun, some people sweat it out in the baking hot kitchens and laundry rooms, feeding and cleaning after the guests, some people clean the toilets and make the beds and some people unmake the beds (turn-down service). Who's to say which job is worse than the others?
 

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Of course poor familes in poorer countries/circumstances are willing to sell their girls in the hope that they will earn enough to pull them out of poverty
In Thailand the girls are expected to repay their families for bringing them into the world....its called "milk money"
In the Philipines the girls ACTUALLY believe that they are going to do proper work.
Russia, Poland and other old "eastern block" countries girls pay to escape to the U.K etc but on arrival they are not nannies or personal assistants...passports are withheld and their living expenses only add to the debts owed, they are sold and resold and can not escape the sexual abuse.
India not only exports but also imports girls to work in the sex industry.
Even in my home country England girls fall into the trap and are exticed abroad for work which can lead them to parading their bodies in the windows of Amsterdams sex district.
So in answer to your question M.A. I really do believe that the VAST majority of women drawn into prostitution do not realize that that's where they are heading.
I doubt whether you, I or any other female on here would be gagging to work as a prostitute, have an abusive minder take the money, get poured by men who cant get themselves sex via a normal relationship, service up to 30 men a day, get infections which make us unable to ever have children or engage in warped and prohibitive sexual acts.
Sure their are girls out there happy to rip guys of for vasts amount of money but they are the high class hookers who can pick and choose...and they are the women I so admire.

thanks for posting this thread:cheeky:
 

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Or go freelance in switzerland and make a million pesos a year, pay tax on it, come back to dr and live a quiet life....... no irony in my statement, just seen how it works... 2000 chf as a cleaning lady or 9000 chf as an escort, and its legal.......
 

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jilly, polish women do not need to pay up to get to the UK. poland has been a part of EU for nearly 10 years, we can travel back and forth all we want. and the "waitress" trick has been exposed in the media numerous time so i doubt anyone falls for it anymore...

believe it or not many women choose prostitution. it's easy money. heck, not much work involved in bouncing up and down on a man sausage.
 

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I guess, Greydred, that if the women actaully KNOW that they are going to be hookers, and sign a contract, etc, then there is nothing wrong with it.. But if they think that they are going to be maids, and then are raped, have their passports taken, are foreced into sex work.. stuff like that.. well .. that is different than working in a laudry room or a kitchen, isn't it?
 

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I don't wonder the sex trade flourishes on the backs of "bought and sold " women when even women with better social status have the attitude that its Ok and they like it.
Without sounding rude I suggest more women start finding out whats really happening to these women as I have and do.
As for my mentioning Polland...well I will stand corrected....for now.
thanks for your very understanding and sympathetic response
 
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Quite agree with you malko....but there is a very wide line between back street brothels with unwilling girls and the escorts....as I said I wont knock a hard working escort doing what she willing to do in order to make a better life for herself.
 

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you stand correct in what? that polaks need to pay up to make a trip to the UK? they do not. they can go there whenever they want. that they are scammed after they have arrived is another story altogether.

some women who found themselves in a ho trade are forced. some are more than willing. is it so hard to accept there are women who want to do that job?
 

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So in answer to your question M.A. I really do believe that the VAST majority of women drawn into prostitution do not realize that that's where they are heading.
I doubt whether you, I or any other female on here would be gagging to work as a prostitute, have an abusive minder take the money, get poured by men who cant get themselves sex via a normal relationship, service up to 30 men a day, get infections which make us unable to ever have children or engage in warped and prohibitive sexual acts.
Sure their are girls out there happy to rip guys of for vasts amount of money but they are the high class hookers who can pick and choose...and they are the women I so admire.

thanks for posting this thread:cheeky:

I was hoping that this thread would not become a Mars v. Venus affair. There's a lot of assumption in your post and it appears based on anti male sentiment. I will address your concerns as objectively as I am able:

The "vast majority" of the Women recruited from the Dominican Republic know that they are volunteering to perform acts of adult intimacy for paying clients, especially those who return for subsequent visas in one country or move on to perform the same work in other countries.

Nobody's recruiting virgins for this work. The treatment which they receive (including regular medical screening by government appointed physicians in many countries) is not 1st class by any stretch but most of these Women are from the campos and barrios and the only healthcare they're likely to get is emergency care when they're burned or bleeding. The complete gynecological battery which they receive in their host countries is probably the first of their lives and they are educated in the proper use of prophylactics and proper gynecological hygiene, also many for the first time in their lives.

The Women recruited to this work do receive the bulk of the earnings which they generate but just like workers in the other industries they overpay for every employer accommodation including transportation, meals, lodging, taxes, medical fees, legal and immigration fees, etc, etc, etc so at the end of the day their account holds only the net earnings after all expenses are met. A small percentage is allotted to their families upon their request and they are provided with an even smaller percent in hand for immediate expenses. They spend a lot on phone cards talking to family and friends back home.

They have the right to pick and choose their clients. They work in a bar/ party type atmosphere where in most cases they initiate contact with clients. Most of their clients are healthy, young Men with good material and most of them have Wives or Girlfriends but are either away from home or simply looking for the sex part without all the "dating" BS part. It's been that way since the beginning of money so try not to judge. The Quasimodo-esque Guys you referred to are the primary clients of those "High Class Hookers" whom you admire so much. Same for the warped and prohibitive sexual act Guys.

Look in most of the Caribbean the going rate is $50 for 30 minutes and most of the clients are refinery workers, hotel and airline employees and tourists. You can only squeeze so much activity into that span of time so there really isn't much of an opportunity for variation from the same sweaty huck-a-buck that these Chicas were handing out for a cerveza to the Chulos who grew up with them, impregnated them and/ or gave them a myriad of social diseases and then moved on to the next years fresh crop of fresh young Chicas in bloom.

With money comes the opportunity to experience self empowerment, self employment and self improvement on a level which wouldn't exist without it. Like I said, try not to be judgmental, especially in the face of their lack of viable options.
 
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I was hoping that this thread would not become a Mars v. Venus affair. There's a lot of assumption in your post and it appears based on anti male sentiment. I will address your concerns as objectively as I am able:

The "vast majority" of the Women recruited from the Dominican Republic know that they are volunteering to perform acts of adult intimacy for paying clients, especially those who return for subsequent visas in one country or move on to perform the same work in other countries.

Nobody's recruiting virgins for this work. The treatment which they receive (including regular medical screening by government appointed physicians in many countries) is not 1st class by any stretch but most of these Women are from the campos and barrios and the only healthcare they're likely to get is emergency care when they're burned or bleeding. The complete gynecological battery which they receive in their host countries is probably the first of their lives and they are educated in the proper use of prophylactics and proper gynecological hygiene, also many for the first time in their lives.

The Women recruited to this work do receive the bulk of the earnings which they generate but just like workers in the other industries they overpay for every employer accommodation including transportation, meals, lodging, taxes, medical fees, legal and immigration fees, etc, etc, etc so at the end of the day their account holds only the net earnings after all expenses are met. A small percentage is allotted to their families upon their request and they are provided with an even smaller percent in hand for immediate expenses. They spend a lot on phone cards talking to family and friends back home.

They have the right to pick and choose their clients. They work in a bar/ party type atmosphere where in most cases they initiate contact with clients. Most of their clients are healthy, young Men with good material and most of them have Wives or Girlfriends but are either away from home or simply looking for the sex part without all the "dating" BS part. It's been that way since the beginning of money so try not to judge. The Quasimodo-esque Guys you referred to are the primary clients of those "High Class Hookers" whom you admire so much. Same for the warped and prohibitive sexual act Guys.

Look in most of the Caribbean the going rate is $50 for 30 minutes and most of the clients are refinery workers, hotel and airline employees and tourists. You can only squeeze so much activity into that span of time so there really isn't much of an opportunity for variation from the same sweaty huck-a-buck that these Chicas were handing out for a cerveza to the Chulos who grew up with them, impregnated them and/ or gave them a myriad of social diseases and then moved on to the next years fresh crop of fresh young Chicas in bloom.

With money comes the opportunity to experience self empowerment, self employment and self improvement on a level which wouldn't exist without it. Like I said, try not to be judgmental, especially in the face of their lack of viable options.

This should be good. It's gonna get interesting around here.
 

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I guess, Greydred, that if the women actaully KNOW that they are going to be hookers, and sign a contract, etc, then there is nothing wrong with it.. But if they think that they are going to be maids, and then are raped, have their passports taken, are foreced into sex work.. stuff like that.. well .. that is different than working in a laudry room or a kitchen, isn't it?

You are absolutely correct. I just wish that a few of these Women could chime in for themselves here. I could introduce you to Dominican Women who started out living the dead end campo tragedy and now own their own businesses, own real property (some of it income producing), drive their own cars, own their own businesses and send their Children to the best Universities. They have worked in the Netherland Antilles and Europe and have developed multilingual fluency, a keen eye for a good deal and the ability to handle money properly.

Not all succeed to this level and many return to their homelands broke and jaded, drunks or druggies but they had the opportunity to use the money that they made productively and you would be surprised at how much money can be accumulate in a 3-5 year span of "working" 3 months a year at what they otherwise would have been playing at, year round, for nothing in their dirt floor shacks with the outdoor bucket and perforated coffee can for a shower.

I could point you to a few success stories right in Santo Domingo and let them tell you for themselves. If you're serious take it offline for contact info.
 

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greydread in no way do I judge the women and your post is very informative for which I DO thank you
cheers J
 

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Sorry dv8 I take exception to the term polaks particularly as I have several great friends who are POLISH girls.
 

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greydread in no way do I judge the women and your post is very informative for which I DO thank you
cheers J

I have raised four Daughters and they gifted me with the ability to both listen to and hear Women. I have had a shocking whole lot explained to me about how things work and some of the people (Men and Women) whom I admire the most, it's not admiration because of their success but the paths they took to reach it. They worked hard and exhibited tremendous self discipline but they had fun doing it.
 

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greydread (I missed a bit of your reply) I apologise if I give the impression that I am anti male....in no way do I fall into that category.
I am just opinionated and have perhaps differing views and moral standards to others lol.
I simply hate the idea of exploitation of those who can sometimes neither see behind false promises or have few real options to improve their lives.
I would defend the exploitation of men as much as I would of women:paranoid:
 

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Sorry dv8 I take exception to the term polaks particularly as I have several great friends who are POLISH girls.


like, who cares? i am polish, i am a woman and term "polak" does not offend me. you should know that "polak" means "a polish person" in polish, no biggie. if it offends other polaks it's their problem, not mine.
 

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I care dv8....but then that's the world for you aint it....some people just don't care who they offend.
Doubt you and I have anything constructive to say to each other.
So bye and you have a nice day
 

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I guess, Greydred, that if the women actaully KNOW that they are going to be hookers, and sign a contract, etc, then there is nothing wrong with it.. But if they think that they are going to be maids, and then are raped, have their passports taken, are foreced into sex work.. stuff like that.. well .. that is different than working in a laudry room or a kitchen, isn't it?

Annie,
I don't disagree with you on the abuse of women.
Fact is, that the corporate world thrives on low wage slave labour world wide, for men and women.
Try doing mind numbing work in very unhealthy conditions year after year.
The only defence is money and education.
Moralizing is easy, but does not provide education, jobs, food or money for the poor.
How you're going to turn it around world wide????
 

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Hey Lobo....great question....think it deserves its own thread....not messin....bet the replies would be worth reading/discussing
cheers J