airfare to pop 300$more than other airports?

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this may be one of the reasons for the north coast decline in tourism. i live in tampa and to pop thru miami is 640$ yet if i go to santiago ,santo domingo or even punta cana again thru miami its only 359$ that is a big difference . i think american air is causing all of the problems . as the flts to miami are the same its just the connecting cities which are farther from miami so they should be more?
anybody have any other reason for the higher prices?
 
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jfk-tampa said:
this may be one of the reasons for the north coast decline in tourism. i live in tampa and to pop thru miami is 640$ yet if i go to santiago ,santo domingo or even punta cana again thru miami its only 359$ that is a big difference . i think american air is causing all of the problems . as the flts to miami are the same its just the connecting cities which are farther from miami so they should be more?
anybody have any other reason for the higher prices?
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Aerodom is Killing everywhere they have the administration, usually almost half of the final price are airport taxes.
 
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but doesn,t aerdom run most of the airports in the country? that would mean the taxes would be same for all flights from say miami?
 
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I heard this too.... my friend just arrived SDQ fro MIA..... drove the rental to Cabrera.

Whenasked why not POP, the difference was too much - he said $500 but that may have been $250 each

any way, he was put off POP by the price..... one of the travel days was a Wednesday - best day of week normally, pricewise
 
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Actually, it's been this way for a while. AA has only one flight now MIA/POP and none SJU/POP which means NO competition. JFK flights have been reduced as well. Combine the Aerodom high prices at POP and you get an expensive POP from the USA. Aerodom does not have all the airports but are a big reason POP is too expensive.
Out of my last 20 trips to the D.R. only twice have we used POP and our home is in Sosua. It is bad but I'll fly to STI or SDQ to save $500 in a heartbeat. Image how much Catnip $500 can buy Frank.
 
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I have stopped searching for flights to POP a while ago, the price is always ridiculous from NYC :( (even though I flew there the first 2 times I went to DR, 4 yrs ago)
 
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taxes from Canada have now gone up to $428 plus cost of AI package or flight (charter).

im not surprised more Canadians are headed to Jamacia, Cuba, Mexico or anywhere else.
 
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most of our visitors who fly from the states go to STI. those from europe do charters (if from london) or airberlin. but charters from london went up considerably since i've been here.
 
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I've experienced the same over the years but lately it seems that it depends at what time of the year you're traveling on AA from MIA. I checked several times to see if it was worth coming/leaving from Santiago, and ended up with the very same fare. Slightly cheaper from SDQ but not worth the cost/time of taking a cab/bus to POP

jfk-tampa said:
this may be one of the reasons for the north coast decline in tourism. i live in tampa and to pop thru miami is 640$ yet if i go to santiago ,santo domingo or even punta cana again thru miami its only 359$ that is a big difference . i think american air is causing all of the problems . as the flts to miami are the same its just the connecting cities which are farther from miami so they should be more?
anybody have any other reason for the higher prices?
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ricky11 said:
the airports have actually nothing to do with airport taxes. they are set by the Dominican gov't and are the same no matter which airport you fly into. as an example, fly united from ewr to either sdq, pop or puj and the Dominican taxes are 82.60. the remaining taxes that you pay, 59.50 are us gov't taxes for custums, immigration etc. for a grand total of 142.10
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Airport taxes do not have thing to do with the goverment, if you check the detail of the fares you will see where goes everything, part for Fuel compensation, and airport taxes, what we pay for IDAC is like 2.50 dollars and some others are like that.
 
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Many people are now checking other destinations or all inclusives; the word is out that it is no longer safe on the north coast. I have only been coming here five years and I know personal two people shot and one woman assaulted
The less people coming the poorer the economy the worse the violence will become, it is self fulfilling
 
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TPA to STI and TPA to POP via MIA. Same airline (AA), same date - 4 April. In both cases - the cheapest available airfare at this moment.

Tampa (TPA) to Puerto Plata (POP) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. Tampa (TPA) to Miami (MIA) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. 1161 Dep: 9:15AM Arr: 10:15AM 1h 0m Boeing 737 Economy (L)

Layover in MIA 1h 25m

American Airlines Inc. Miami (MIA) to Puerto Plata (POP) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. 935 Dep: 11:40AM Arr: 1:35PM 1h 55m Boeing 757 Economy (L)


Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $380.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $380.80

Now to fare break down -

Fare 1: Carrier AA LNE0C0Z1 TPA to POP (rules)
Passenger type ADT, one-way fare, booking code L
Covers TPA-MIA (Economy), MIA-POP (Economy)
$318.00
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $5.00
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $9.00
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.50
Dominican Republic Airport Infrastructure Fee (VB) $16.30
Dominican Republic Airport Authority Fee (UX) $15.00

Subtotal per passenger $380.80
Number of passengers x1

Total airfare & taxes $380.80

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Tampa (TPA) to Santiago (STI) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. Tampa (TPA) to Miami (MIA) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. 2234 Dep: 3:45PM Arr: 4:50PM 1h 5m Boeing 737 Economy (N)

Layover in MIA 1h 5m

American Airlines Inc. Miami (MIA) to Santiago (STI) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. 2365 Dep: 5:55PM Arr: 7:55PM 2h 0m Boeing 757 Economy (N)


Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $158.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $158.80

Fare break down -

Fare 1: Carrier AA NNE4C0Z1 TPA to STI (rules)
Passenger type ADT, one-way fare, booking code N
Covers TPA-MIA (Economy), MIA-STI (Economy)
$96.00
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $5.00
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $9.00
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.50
Dominican Republic Airport Infrastructure Fee (VB) $16.30
Dominican Republic Airport Authority Fee (UX) $15.00

Subtotal per passenger $158.80
Number of passengers x1

Total airfare & taxes $158.80


As you can see - taxes and fees are exactly same for POP and for STI. But fare base is VERY different. What's wrong with POP???
 
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la_barbie said:
taxes from Canada have now gone up to $428 plus cost of AI package or flight (charter).

im not surprised more Canadians are headed to Jamacia, Cuba, Mexico or anywhere else.
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Taxes from Canada YYZ to POP on WestJet direct flight, round trip (April-May dates) -

Dominican Republic Airport Authority Fee (UX) CA$17.20
Dominican Republic Airport Infrastructure Fee (VB) CA$18.70
WS YQ surcharge (YQ) CA$15.00
WS YR surcharge (YR) CA$12.60
Toronto Airport Improvement Fee (SQ) CA$25.00
Canadian Harmonized Sales Tax (ON) (RC) CA$3.25
Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA) CA$25.91
Dominican Republic International Airport Departure Tax (AA) CA$22.90
Dominican Republic Airport Authority Fee (UX) CA$17.20
Dominican Republic Airport Infrastructure Fee (VB) CA$18.70
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Total taxes = CA$ 176.46

Where do you see increase to $428?
 
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Taxes from Punta Cana to Toronto (my date) this is one way fare

Fare Summary
Passenger Type Adult
Air Transportation Charges
Departing Flight - Tango 212.10
Surcharges 7.90
Fuel Surcharge 13.47

Taxes, Fees and Charges
Dominican Rep. Transportation Tax 39.60
Dominican Rep. Arpt. Departure Tax 22.45
Dominican Rep. Arpt. Infra Fee 18.30
Dominicam Rep. Arpt. Authority 16.84

Total airfare and taxes before options (per passenger) 330.66
Number of passengers 1
Grand Total - Canadian dollars 330.66


Dominican taxes in Punta Cana are 97.19 Canadian Dollars, that in American Dollars are arround 86.00 Dollars
 
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Bred said:
TPA to STI and TPA to POP via MIA. Same airline (AA), same date - 4 April. In both cases - the cheapest available airfare at this moment.

Tampa (TPA) to Puerto Plata (POP) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. Tampa (TPA) to Miami (MIA) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. 1161 Dep: 9:15AM Arr: 10:15AM 1h 0m Boeing 737 Economy (L)

Layover in MIA 1h 25m

American Airlines Inc. Miami (MIA) to Puerto Plata (POP) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. 935 Dep: 11:40AM Arr: 1:35PM 1h 55m Boeing 757 Economy (L)


Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $380.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $380.80

Now to fare break down -

Fare 1: Carrier AA LNE0C0Z1 TPA to POP (rules)
Passenger type ADT, one-way fare, booking code L
Covers TPA-MIA (Economy), MIA-POP (Economy)
$318.00
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $5.00
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $9.00
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.50
Dominican Republic Airport Infrastructure Fee (VB) $16.30
Dominican Republic Airport Authority Fee (UX) $15.00

Subtotal per passenger $380.80
Number of passengers x1

Total airfare & taxes $380.80

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Tampa (TPA) to Santiago (STI) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. Tampa (TPA) to Miami (MIA) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. 2234 Dep: 3:45PM Arr: 4:50PM 1h 5m Boeing 737 Economy (N)

Layover in MIA 1h 5m

American Airlines Inc. Miami (MIA) to Santiago (STI) - Fri, Apr 4
American Airlines Inc. 2365 Dep: 5:55PM Arr: 7:55PM 2h 0m Boeing 757 Economy (N)


Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $158.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $158.80

Fare break down -

Fare 1: Carrier AA NNE4C0Z1 TPA to STI (rules)
Passenger type ADT, one-way fare, booking code N
Covers TPA-MIA (Economy), MIA-STI (Economy)
$96.00
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $5.00
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $9.00
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.50
Dominican Republic Airport Infrastructure Fee (VB) $16.30
Dominican Republic Airport Authority Fee (UX) $15.00

Subtotal per passenger $158.80
Number of passengers x1

Total airfare & taxes $158.80


As you can see - taxes and fees are exactly same for POP and for STI. But fare base is VERY different. What's wrong with POP???
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Bred, very good eye for detail. With the breakdown of those taxes, it narrows it down to airline fees.
Is it just lack of competition???
 
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PeteyPablo said:
Bred, very good eye for detail. With the breakdown of those taxes, it narrows it down to airline fees.
Is it just lack of competition???
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Looks like it. Look at New York, same date - 4 April. JetBlue -

New York (JFK) to Puerto Plata (POP) - Fri, Apr 4
Jetblue Airways Corporation Jetblue Airways Corporation 627 Dep: 9:10AM Arr: 12:42PM 3h 32m Airbus A320

Fare 1: Carrier B6 PI07AE2U NYC to POP (rules)
Passenger type ADT, one-way fare, booking code P
Covers JFK-POP (Economy)
$128.00
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $2.50
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $4.50
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.50
Dominican Republic Airport Infrastructure Fee (VB) $16.30
Dominican Republic Airport Authority Fee (UX) $15.00

Subtotal per passenger $183.80
Number of passengers x1

Total airfare & taxes $183.80
 
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just checked yesterday and the taxes on a flt into pop and Santiago are exactly the same the only difference is the amount American charges . flt to pop 486$ flt to Santiago is 202. and last time I checked it was a longer flt and both flts start from tampa to Miami and Miami to both airports. boy what a rip off American has when they have control of a market. but I guess when you are the only player in town you can charge what you want.
 
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