Possible closure of Rumba and Willy's Latina Drink bar in Sosua

tee · Jun 13, 2014

I have heard from two different people today that the city are talking about closing down Rumba Bar and Willy's Latina Drink bar in Sosua in their move to get rid of prostitution in the down town core. Apparently there will be a demonstration tonight in front of the bars....things might get interesting and I can imagine, heated up.
While I understand and applaud why the city want to clean up the center they should be refraining to do this until other areas of Sosua are ready to accommodate the red light trade that Sosua has offered for so many years. How can the local government expect to resolve the issue of literally hundreds of girls without a source of income? Everybody has their opinions on prostitution, I for one do not have an issue with it, but those living in Sosua, whether you are pro or con, should certainly be concerned with hundreds of girls suddenly being without any income. Unless there are alternative locations for them to 'work' then we could see a large new crime wave.
There are places that could potentially do well, one being City Lights as it is large enough, but there is a lack of other large facilities. The old Hi Caribe disco at the end of Pedro Clisante could explode, Eddy's sports bar is another place I can think of.
I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens.....
Anybody heard anything else on this?

AlterEgo · Jun 13, 2014

Apparently there is an effort to close these places down, and change the image of DR as a sex tourism destination.

http://dr1.com/forums/living/143723-deportation-foreigners-involved-sex-trade.html

PICHARDO · Jun 13, 2014

This is the will and power of the cruise industry deep pockets...

Did you think they would invest into that port and major facility just to deal with the presently "sex-for-sale" trade abound in the area?

The North Coast will be revived as a major cruising port of call and multi-offer destination in the Caribbean. Instead of a few hours to a Day at port, this stop will be a long stay type of offer. From trips to the mountains (rafting in the rivers and bike trails) to trips to Zona Colonial and other points of interest.

You guys missed the point when it was related that this port facility will also serve to other ships and type of visitors as well.

They even haven't started with the clean-up yet. This is only the let's the word rolling before we pull the shovels out...

PICHARDO · Jun 13, 2014

On the other hand, the DR IS GOING to create a NEW red light zone. It will be very strict and secured.

It takes time to do those things, when you have the church breathing down your neck at each step.

Berzin · Jun 13, 2014

PICHARDO said:
The North Coast will be revived as a...

Just another one of your predictions that will never come true. Just as long as it's years down the line, you don't have to worry about being wrong yet again for a good while. But you're wrong nonetheless. Still waiting for those laptops for the kiddies, by the way. Donde estan?

Walter Mercado called-he wants his cape back. No more predictions for you!!!

PICHARDO said:
Instead of a few hours to a Day at port, this stop will be a long stay type of offer. From trips to the mountains (rafting in the rivers and bike trails) to trips to Zona Colonial and other points of interest.

Cruise customers want to eat, drink, dance, fart, belch, vomit, and screw. Not necessarily in that order. They aren't the target audience for sightseeing and adventure tourism that involves biking and hiking.

the gorgon · Jun 13, 2014

Berzin said:
Just another one of your predictions that will never come true. Just as long as it's years down the line, you don't have to worry about being wrong yet again for a good while. But you're wrong nonetheless. Still waiting for those laptops for the kiddies, by the way. Donde estan?

Walter Mercado called-he wants his cape back. No more predictions for you!!!

Cruise customers want to eat, drink, dance, fart, belch, vomit, and screw. Not necessarily in that order. They aren't the target audience for sightseeing and adventure tourism that involves biking and hiking.

cruise passengers are already at the destination; the ship. they chose to go on a cruise because they wanted to remain in a bubble. they are not adventure seekers, or else they would have gone on an eco-tour to the Costa Rican rain forests. they do not want to get off the ship for too long, and run the risk of getting mugged, or involved in a traffic accident, or bitten by a centipede. PICHARDO is comic relief.

Bronxboy · Jun 13, 2014

Happened in PR in the 90's, could happen in DR.

NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

drstock · Jun 13, 2014

PICHARDO said:
On the other hand, the DR IS GOING to create a NEW red light zone. It will be very strict and secured.

It takes time to do those things, when you have the church breathing down your neck at each step.

They should just make that part of the street around D'Latin and Rumba the official red light district. If the girls ply their trade publicly elsewhere, lock them up. If all the thousands of families and cruise visitors that they expect actually arrive (which I doubt), tell them to avoid that area if they don't want to see what goes on. Works fine, on a much bigger scale in places like Amsterdam!

windeguy · Jun 13, 2014

Please stop trying to apply logic to this situation. What will happen is what will happen "the Dominican way".

Who is going to protest this? The workers of the trade, some folks from NYC?

the gorgon · Jun 13, 2014

drstock said:
They should just make that part of the street around D'Latin and Rumba the official red light district. If the girls ply their trade publicly elsewhere, lock them up. If all the thousands of families and cruise visitors that they expect actually arrive (which I doubt), tell them to avoid that area if they don't want to see what goes on. Works fine, on a much bigger scale in places like Amsterdam!

i have no idea who these cruise tourists might be. are they planning a port in Sosua? surely they do not think there will be any meaningful impact from Maimon.

james · Jun 13, 2014

Willy himself announced last night approx 9pm on a TV broadcast in the company of some employees of his D'Latin and some from the Merengue Bar that he was closing the D'Latin. It was showing on the TV screen at the Merengue and I guess many other places as well.

BermudaRum · Jun 13, 2014

drstock said:
They should just make that part of the street around D'Latin and Rumba the official red light district. If the girls ply their trade publicly elsewhere, lock them up.

Well it looks like Sousa could be six for six by the end of this year:cheeky:. Six past summers, with six so called good riddance to chicas of the night. What are the odds that Sosua can make it seven for seven in 2015.
On that note, Willie is odds on favorite to once again move across the street and take over the management of Classicos Disco, along with his After 1 connections. With Latin Drink not operating, he once again can control all chicas, along with facilitating rent a piece of pu#@y in Sosua's only enclosed discos besides Premium (El Flow). And let's not forget that he is looking into opening El Toro ( x Latinos) again. What it will be, is anyone guess. Dominicans for Dominicans, as it should always be. It is after all their country.

davetuna · Jun 13, 2014

Berzin said:
Cruise customers want to eat, drink, dance, fart, belch, vomit, and screw. Not necessarily in that order. They aren't the target audience for sightseeing and adventure tourism that involves biking and hiking.

no offence, but you are maybe thinking of only half of the cruise passenger type. day trips out are very popular for many guests as you would see if you looked at other destinations. DR has lots to offer.

Berzin · Jun 13, 2014

The DR is not ready for a steady flow of adventure tourists, with its culturally entrenched attitude of lax safety precautions combined with their "no fuy yo" and "no fue mi culpa" attitude that infuriates Westerners.

Then there are the logistics nightmares ripe for exploiting.

Case in point-bringing a bicycle over on a plane. If it's an oversized bag, the airline can charge you any amount of money they want. This amount is arbitrary and could cost as much as a one-way flight. Take a wild guess where the airline employees take advantage of this the most?

Guess how much of that money goes right into someone's pocket as opposed to the company they are supposedly collecting this fee for? It's situations like this that spread like wildfire among the road/mountain bike community. See my point? And bike rentals aren't really for this crowd. The equipment is way too expensive and these cats don't travel to partake in their respective activities without their gear.

You are correct in saying that the DR has lots to offer. The Dominican business elites who cater to tourism just don't care about getting it together to the point where a Westerner with money would consider going there if they know when an accident happens they are pretty much on their own, or will be taken to a local hospital to deal with the DR's award-winning healthcare.

Bronxboy · Jun 13, 2014

Funny, I give this thread a few days to have over 3K views.

This is what many of our lurkers are really interested in. Oh boy............................

the gorgon · Jun 13, 2014

Berzin said:
The DR is not ready for a steady flow of adventure tourists, with its culturally entrenched attitude of lax safety precautions combined with their "no fuy yo" and "no fue mi culpa" attitude that infuriates Westerners.

Then there are the logistics nightmares ripe for exploiting.

Case in point-bringing a bicycle over on a plane. If it's an oversized bag, the airline can charge you any amount of money they want. This amount is arbitrary and could cost as much as a one-way flight. Take a wild guess where the airline employees take advantage of this the most?

Guess how much of that money goes right into someone's pocket as opposed to the company they are supposedly collecting this fee for? It's situations like this that spread like wildfire among the road/mountain bike community. See my point? And bike rentals aren't really for this crowd. The equipment is way too expensive and these cats don't travel to partake in their respective activities without their gear.

You are correct in saying that the DR has lots to offer. The Dominican business elites who cater to tourism just don't care about getting it together to the point where a Westerner with money would consider going there if they know when an accident happens they are pretty much on their own, or will be taken to a local hospital to deal with the DR's award-winning healthcare.

there are tourists, and there are tourists. guys who pay a few grand to go on a cruise are not the same demographic as the backpacker dude who will get on a guagua built for 15 passengers carrying 29 people. the first time a cruise passenger craps his shorts when some truck overtakes another around a blind corner, it is all over. the internet will make sure of that.

Viajero · Jun 13, 2014

tee said:
whether you are pro or con, should certainly be concerned with hundreds of girls suddenly being without any income.

How will they be without income? When Clasicos closed it didn't stop the prostitutes. As long as there are Johns in Sosua, prostitutes will find ways to make money. If it moves to another location, the Johns will follow. If the Johns have to do more e-mongering on social media, they will do that as well. The people that engage in this activity will find ways to create transactions. Maybe some will go work at Blackbeards or whatever or even get non-prostitution work like other Dominicans. I wouldn't be too worried about it as most probably are not from Sosua and will follow the money somewhere else.

the gorgon · Jun 13, 2014

Viajero said:
How will they be without income? When Clasicos closed it didn't stop the prostitutes. As long as there are Johns in Sosua, prostitutes will find ways to make money. If it moves to another location, the Johns will follow. If the Johns have to do more e-mongering on social media, they will do that as well. The people that engage in this activity will find ways to create transactions. Maybe some will go work at Blackbeards or whatever or even get non-prostitution work like other Dominicans. I wouldn't be too worried about it as most probably are not from Sosua and will follow the money somewhere else.

there really is not much money elsewhere, which is why they are in Sosua. the girls from Bani and Montecristi are not going to be too happy to go back home and work for 500 pesos per whack.

wrecksum · Jun 13, 2014

PICHARDO said:
The North Coast will be revived as a major cruising port of call and multi-offer destination in the Caribbean. Instead of a few hours to a Day at port, this stop will be a long stay type of offer. From trips to the mountains (rafting in the rivers and bike trails) to trips to Zona Colonial and other points of interest.

You guys missed the point when it was related that this port facility will also serve to other ships and type of visitors as well.

They even haven't started with the clean-up yet. This is only the let's the word rolling before we pull the shovels out...

Has this been confirmed by reliable sources that this will be a long-stay destination? If so, this changes the demographic enormously.

Expat13 · Jun 13, 2014

Berzin said:
The DR is not ready for a steady flow of adventure tourists, with its culturally entrenched attitude of lax safety precautions combined with their "no fuy yo" and "no fue mi culpa" attitude that infuriates Westerners.

Then there are the logistics nightmares ripe for exploiting.

Case in point-bringing a bicycle over on a plane. If it's an oversized bag, the airline can charge you any amount of money they want. This amount is arbitrary and could cost as much as a one-way flight. Take a wild guess where the airline employees take advantage of this the most?

Guess how much of that money goes right into someone's pocket as opposed to the company they are supposedly collecting this fee for? It's situations like this that spread like wildfire among the road/mountain bike community. See my point? And bike rentals aren't really for this crowd. The equipment is way too expensive and these cats don't travel to partake in their respective activities without their gear.

You are correct in saying that the DR has lots to offer. The Dominican business elites who cater to tourism just don't care about getting it together to the point where a Westerner with money would consider going there if they know when an accident happens they are pretty much on their own, or will be taken to a local hospital to deal with the DR's award-winning healthcare.

You can put lipstick on a PIG but its......................

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