Kidnapping and selling children for body parts

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TropicalPaul

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All of my staff keep telling me that there are people going around the poorer neighborhoods who are snatching young children. The children are then evidently taken somewhere where they are killed and then various organs are extracted. At first I thought this was the usual old wives tale, but I keep hearing the same story. One of them showed me a photo of a funeral that took place yesterday for a young child who had been snatched and was then returned, dead, with no eyes. Last night I was having dinner and the staff in the restaurant were telling me the same story. Supposedly two children were snatched yesterday, one in Cienega and one in Guandules, both very poor barrios in the capital. The gangs evidently operate using a black jeepeta, and in one of the cases yesterday they shot a woman who was walking along with her child.

Has anyone else heard about this? It sounds absolutely horrific if there is a grain of truth in it. I would really prefer not to believe this, but I just wonder why so many people keep saying the same story.
 

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Not a new thing, this same thing comes to surface every two or three years. there are photos circulating around facebook at the moment of the latetst people involved. Is something that pokes its head and then gets buried again within a month or so.

I don't think it is nonesense at all, I remember kids things going on a couple of years ago around the capital. But it does tend to slide under the carpet.

Three or four years ago I remember discussions even about prices going on within this board because of some drama that was going on. Can't remember details enough.
 

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A few months ago Mexican authorities arrested a henchman from the cartel
for kidnapping and killing children to steal their organs, so if it happened
in Mexico, it can also happen in the DR and in other places as well.


Mexican cartel henchman arrested for killing children to harvest their organs

Relative of top cartel leader nabbed in Mexico, held on charges of kidnapping, killing kids to steal their organs. Manuel Plancarte Gaspar is nephew of Knights Templar kingpin.

Atrocities committed by Mexican narcotics syndicates have reached a new low with the announcement that a henchman for the vicious Knights Templar has been arrested on suspicion of killing children by removing their internal organs.

Manuel Plancarte Gaspar, 34, was captured last week in a stolen car that was also carrying crystal meth, one of the cartel's top sellers in the international drug trade. He was captured in the western state of Michoacan, where the Knights Templar rule and terrorize the citizenry.

In an unusual series of Twitter posts, Michoacan's Public Safety Secretary Carlos Castellanos Becerra announced the arrest of Gaspar "who belongs to a criminal group and is being investigated for the death of children, who drew their organs for sale."

Mexican cartel henchman arrested for killing children to harvest their organs* - NY Daily News
 

TropicalPaul

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One of my friends is here, he is saying that he saw a dead child with his own eyes yesterday. The child had been abducted from Cienega two days ago, and was brought back with no eyes and other body parts missing. He says that they left RD$10,000 with the dead child. He says that according to the mother, the police are saying that she is making up stories. It all sounds very far-fetched but he is absolutely convinced he has seen the dead child.
 

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One of my friends is here, he is saying that he saw a dead child with his own eyes yesterday. The child had been abducted from Cienega two days ago, and was brought back with no eyes and other body parts missing. He says that they left RD$10,000 with the dead child. He says that according to the mother, the police are saying that she is making up stories. It all sounds very far-fetched but he is absolutely convinced he has seen the dead child.

Seriously ??? Are you for real ??? Must be the boogyman....
 

TropicalPaul

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Seriously ??? Are you for real ??? Must be the boogyman....

I find it hard to believe. Surely if children really were being snatched, the police would be on the case? Dominicans are seriousl y into their children. And you would need a doctor and an operating theater, and you would somehow need to get the organs out of the country, which would involve customs and aircraft and then customs at the other end, unless you happened to have the child here who was waiting for the doner organ. I could believe it if they were snatching children to sell them for adoption, that seems more plausible. But I just wanted to get the DR1.com take on the subject, because everyone I speak to is convinced it is happening in the capital.
 

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One of my friends is here, he is saying that he saw a dead child with his own eyes yesterday. The child had been abducted from Cienega two days ago, and was brought back with no eyes and other body parts missing. He says that they left RD$10,000 with the dead child. He says that according to the mother, the police are saying that she is making up stories. It all sounds very far-fetched but he is absolutely convinced he has seen the dead child.

listen, there are also people who said they saw a woman give birth to a two-headed snake, a chupacabra eating a banana, a big foot playing chess with a loch ness monster, bruja flying on a broomstick and a bunch of lizard aliens overtaking world government. please show me verified news article stating the above or take a seat.
 
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I heard a friend mention this was a worry in Barahona, though it did nto happen there.
A kid did reportedly disappear after school, but that doies not mean he was kidnapped for spare parts. Most likely pap? picked him up without asking for mam?'s permission.
 
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I don't believe it. I work with the poor and understand how misinformed they can be. Ignorance is a terrible thing.

My own foundation is suffering from such ignorance. We organized a ballet class, taught by a trained professional, offered free, with shoes, leotards, etc. donated. We hosted a parent meeting. Had 21 students registered with parents signing an agreement (well, their child had to sign....most parents could not read). Within one week, an elderly neighborhood pastor told parents that ballet was profane. Our class decreased to 7 kids. The second week, she told her entire congregation that the families of any child dancing ballet would not be permitted in her church. These illiterate, uneducated parents blindly believe and follow.

Thus, when a rumor about such evil and sin circulates, the uneducated will react with fear and pass on the panic.

Sad. dv8 is right. Don't fall for it.

~ Lindsey
 

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this is all such a bullcrap it is sad to see educated and reasonable people falling for this. looks like no one is thinking for themselves anymore. the story started in PR where some dominicana and puertorriquena had an argument and the PR gal put a picture of dominicana on the internet as an alleged criminal.

listin has a story here: Dominicana reside en Puerto Rico*aclara rumor sobre supuesto rapto de ni?os - listindiario.com

You are saying that because of your link that this does not happen? Interesting. I remember this discussion some years ago and the reason for the discussion was because a boy had been found with internal organs missing. Around the same time something was happening on the North also. Very vague, but seemed to be reason enough for concern then. I don't think a link about one situation covers this enough to say it is all bull****.

What I do remember was the main call last time was where were the parts going to, who would be buying them.
 

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I find it hard to believe. Surely if children really were being snatched, the police would be on the case? Dominicans are seriousl y into their children. And you would need a doctor and an operating theater, and you would somehow need to get the organs out of the country, which would involve customs and aircraft and then customs at the other end, unless you happened to have the child here who was waiting for the doner organ. I could believe it if they were snatching children to sell them for adoption, that seems more plausible. But I just wanted to get the DR1.com take on the subject, because everyone I speak to is convinced it is happening in the capital.

Yeh, DR is well known for being stringent on getting things out of the country illegally, corruption being minimal and its high moral standards and respect for human life:laugh:
 

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listen, there are also people who said they saw a woman give birth to a two-headed snake, a chupacabra eating a banana, a big foot playing chess with a loch ness monster, bruja flying on a broomstick and a bunch of lizard aliens overtaking world government. please show me verified news article stating the above or take a seat.

But that is like saying God does not exist.
 

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Wednesday's DR1 News:
Denials over child kidnapping for organs
The National Institute of Transplant Coordination (INCORT) has issued a statement in response to recent rumors that children are being kidnapped for their organs. The Institute states that the situation is impossible given the complex process of organ donation and transplant.
INCORT director Dr. Fernando Morales Billini explained that carrying out a transplant was a highly complex process involving more than 30 specialists for a kidney transplant, more than 80 for a heart transplant and around 100 in the case of a liver transplant. He said that every so often, myths and legends appeared about the kidnapping of children and adults to take their organs for transplant purposes but they really were urban legends that generate fear in society and have a negative effect on people who need a transplant in order to survive.
Morales Billini said that in order for someone to donate their organs they need to have died in an Intensive Care Unit and be connected to a life support machine, to enable their organs to continue to receive oxygen after they have died. This in itself means that it is impossible to use any organs obtained by any other means.
He went on to say that there also needed to be compatibility between the donor and recipient and a complex network of highly qualified surgeons and the right mode of transport for the organs. INCORT Transplant Coordinator Dr. Celia Perez said that organ donation was an act of love, and that people should have trust and confidence in the process, which will allow thousands of Dominicans who need a transplant to improve their quality of life and continue to live, thanks to the Dominican families who had agreed to donate their organs after death. She appealed to the media to stop publishing information that only leads to confusion.
INCORT aclara falsos rumores de comercializaci?n de ?rganos de ni?os - listindiario.com

It's an urban myth
snopes.com: Kidney Theft
 

TropicalPaul

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Maybe someone is actually kidnapping children and taking out their organs without realizing that you can't them sell them on for transplant. Maybe the kidnappers are stupid, there are some Dominicans that fall into that category.
 
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