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    Default Deportations of Haitians. Can I get the facts, please?

    According to the Daily Kos. Just shows how distorted and out of touch the media reports have been. More anti DR propoganda.

    Dominican Republic to be 'Socially Cleaned' in two days

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    Looks like they are trying pretty hard to find racism in everything. When they can't find it, its "they denied there were racist motivations" .....as to sling a little good-bye mud. Typical Daily Kos blabber.

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    Default Tomorrow's deportations of Dominican-Haitians. Can I get the facts, please?

    I am not Dominican despite having quite a bit of family down there. I guess they would be called "Cocolos" and they live in the San Pedro de Macoris area of the country. Anyway, I am from another Caribbean island (where, ironically, we have a burgeoning population of Dominicans) and, of course, many of us from the other Caribbean islands are watching this situation very closely. On the surface, it is very easy to give a knee jerk reaction and condemn the DR's action on this matter, but I have tried to see it from their side and can completely understand their reasons. I personally do not think it is coming from a position of COMPLETE xenophobia, but many observers think the matter could be handled better.

    Now, there has been a lot of chatter from the peanut gallery and I am sure there have been misunderstandings and hyperbole, but one that I have been hearing and needing clarification on is the issue of the actual Dominicans of Haitian parentage. What I have heard is that despite being born in the DR, if they do NOT have documentation to prove this, they will be deported. A littler harsh, but I can understand this, yes. But now, I have been hearing that Dominican-Haitians, even those of advanced ages who also cannot produce documents, will be deported also. IS this true?

    Will this not create some problems? what about those younger ones who MIGHT be able to show proof, but, say, their grandparents can't or even their parents? With many of these people being poor and perhaps illiterate, were they even cognizant to secure such papers decades ago?

    So, in short, ALL illegal Haitians or Dominican Haitians ("illegal" expanded to also mean those who claim to have been born in DR but have NO proof to prove this) are slated for deportation, right? Also, while the light is on the Haitians being the largest group, is there going to be a deportation of other illegal immigrants also, like Jamaicans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans and others?

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    if the west is so enraged that DR is unwilling to accept hundreds of thousands of haitians, why not open your mighty border to haiti and allow them visa free travel to canada, USA and europe? no? not so convenient? i thought so. it's better to b*tch that a cripple cannot carry a heavy load by himself than to unload some of that and carry it yourself.

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    What are Dominican-Haitians? The media makes it sound like if they had dominican citizenship and it's being taken away from them. As far as I understand they never had dominican citizenship. They just lived here illegally, for many years, maybe even decades and now finally the government is doing something about it. And to avoid that people without any ties to Haiti are sent back to that country they have a regularization plan that will give them the possibility to get residence or citizenship. The documents needed for that need to come from the Haitian government who's not cooperating.

    I have been too lazy to get all the details of something that doesn't seem to be my problem, but that's what I got from it.

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    I suppose the only Dominican Haitian is someone born to a Dominican and a Haitian. I believe the DR, like Australia, does not grant citizenship based on birthplace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR_Guy View Post
    I suppose the only Dominican Haitian is someone born to a Dominican and a Haitian. I believe the DR, like Australia, does not grant citizenship based on birthplace.
    yes, correct, and like the Netherlands, Germany, France, and....Haiti (and many other countries, or actually almost all other countries except most the Americas).

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    It's an interesting argument.

    and a fascinating story to watch unfold (not being affected personally).

    One could argue that the RD government is taking a brave stance on the issue.
    One that could backfire.

    Sit back and watch.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauricio View Post
    What are Dominican-Haitians? The media makes it sound like if they had dominican citizenship and it's being taken away from them. As far as I understand they never had dominican citizenship. They just lived here illegally, for many years, maybe even decades and now finally the government is doing something about it. And to avoid that people without any ties to Haiti are sent back to that country they have a regularization plan that will give them the possibility to get residence or citizenship. The documents needed for that need to come from the Haitian government who's not cooperating.

    I have been too lazy to get all the details of something that doesn't seem to be my problem, but that's what I got from it.

    I used the term "Dominican-Haitian" to differentiate them from Haitians who were born in Haiti itself, but are living within the Dominican border. The 'Dominican-Haitian' would be one born in the DR, but to Haitian parents. Hope I made this clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR_Guy View Post
    I suppose the only Dominican Haitian is someone born to a Dominican and a Haitian. I believe the DR, like Australia, does not grant citizenship based on birthplace.
    Ah...I got you. Never knew this. So to be clear, if you are born in the DR, this does NOT automatically make you a Dominican? Am I understanding this correctly? How then does one become a Dominican?

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