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jjsk

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On the Legal page I see that:
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Law 1683 dated 1948 and its modifications establishes that a person is eligible to obtain Dominican nationality after:

Having resided in the country for at least six months after having obtained legal domicile (permanent residence card).
Having resided continually in the country for at least two years.
Having resided continually in the country for at least six months and having formed a business or purchased real estate.
Having served in the Dominican Armed Forces.
Have obtained a special concession from the President which may be granted for having served the DR with merit.
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Does this mean that all a person has to do is buy some property and stay there for 6 months, and then they can get citizenship without ever having had to get permanent residence status?
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This way it sounds easier to get citizenship than it is to get residency... ??
 
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Ken

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Interesting questions, but I think they would be better posted in the Legal section for a response by the legal experts.
 

Marc

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Citizenship...ouch!

You do not want to become a Dominican citizen. This means giving up your home citizenship.....which is OK if you never want to leave the DR again!

Better post in the legal section, but don't throw away your passport..aka your ticket out of here.

marc
 

jjsk

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well, I think you may be mistaken on that, my country allows dual citizenship
 

jjsk

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:confused:
does it make a difference?
If a country allows dual citizenship, does it have a list of countries that are exceptions? I've never heard of this.
But, from what I can see (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/dualci_e.html)
there are no particular restrictions on Canadians acquiring dual citizenship with the DR.
Sounds like you've come across something I've never heard of. Please tell me what I'm missing...
 

Marc

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jjsk, you have done so much more research than me on this subject (given the quality of your questions, and your posts) that I don't know that I can offer anything other than my gut feel.

I went through the residency process to get my cedula, and did it through a lawyer. Given that this costs $1500USD and requires two trips to Santo Domingo, x-rays, blood test, contract from the company I work for, etc etc...I find it hard to believe that you could just walk into the Capitol and tell them that you would like to become Dominican because you satisfy the criteria you listed above.

If you search the archives, I think that you will find a residency is adequate, and is relatively "painless" when done through a lawyer. You need to make two trips to Santo Domingo, and about $1500USD to get it done. I have yet to see someone post the advantages of being a Dominican Citizen. Again, search the archives as there are a ton of good posts in 2001 about residency vs citizenship vs nothing at all! hehe.

I actually can't wait for you try this stuff out so the rest of us can learn from you. If you are ever in Sosua, be sure to look us up as I bet you will have some good stories by that time.

Take care,
marc
 

jjsk

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Thanks Marc, for your insight. You are probably right, there may likely not be any advantages for someone in my position to get citizenship over residency (and I don't think I'll ever in a million years ever want to give up citizenship of my home country, no matter where life may take me). I just like to investigate all the possibilities as much as I can (and that sometimes involves asking people a lot of questions, ;) some of them stupid ones :p )

I wonder if anyone will jump in and state what possible advantages citizenship would have over residency?
(and I will check the archives for threads on that subject, thanks for the reminder)

I don't know if this "research stage" I'm in will lead me to trying any of the things I'm asking questions about, but you can be sure if I do, I'll be happy to share my experiences.

For now I'm just really really happy to have found this board!
And I'm very thankful to those of you who've gone before and are willing to share your knowledge. :)
 

ekammin

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Except for the fact that citizens generally have the right to vote and resdients don't, I?d say the main difference is a hypothetical one in most circumstances. The country (or countries) of which you are a citizen has to admit you when you want to enter (it is a right, not a privilege they grant), and has to let you stay.

I have some experience with this, being a dual Canadian and U.S. citizen. Usually, Canadians and Americans have no problem crossing the border. But, whenever I do so, I tell the immigration inspector (quite truthfully) that I am a citizen of the country I am entering. That often gets you a little more respect, after all, your taxes are paying his or her salary.
 

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jjsk... I understand that it costs between 1000- and 1500- US to get it done though a lawyer. See previous threads. Benefits include the ability to get a Dominican Passport after a certain period of time and more Lawyer stuff I believe. Also helps if you have to sue someone so you don't have to post a bond. You will also need to get residency to work there legally.

Marc... I will be in Sosua on the 31st of this month. Do you own Rockys?
 

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JJSK, first of all does Dominican Republic allow dual citizenship ? Even if Canadia allows dual citizenship it does not mean that the other country does. It is a two way thing, right ? For example, India and Sri Lanka does not allow dual citizenship. Therefore, even if you are Canadian citizen with Indian citizenship for example, then it does mean that you will not lose your indian citizenship or that you may acquire indian citizenship without, first, renouncing to your Canadian citizenship. Sorry, but thinking that if Canada allows dual-citizenship than it is, therefore, fine to acquire an other citizenship is a bit naive.

Secondly, Dominican Citizenship is acquire by foreigner by Presidential Decree. You have to petition the Government of Dominican Republic for such decree and meet the requirements. It takes time and it costs money. They are no free lunch in RD.

Thirdly, I do not know why you want to become Dominican but like must of the foreigner, they are only RESIDENT and it is fine. It does not cost much and it is what you need in order to work and reside legally in the DR. That should be the first step, in my humble opinion, that someone should take.

Welcome to the DR and good luck. You have to be prepare for new challenges ...
 

jjsk

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Thank you for your insight Roberto.

To answer one of the questions you raise, the DR apparently does allow dual citizenship; at least according to the information available right here on DR1: http://dr1.com/legal/migration/citizenship.shtml

<sub>Also, just as an aside to let you know, Sri Lanka does also, in fact, allow dual citizenship. Whether India does or not, I can't say; but I do have friends are both Canadian and Sri Lankan citizens.</sub>
 

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jazzcom said:
jjsk... I understand that it costs between 1000- and 1500- US to get it done though a lawyer. See previous threads. Benefits include the ability to get a Dominican Passport after a certain period of time and more Lawyer stuff I believe. Also helps if you have to sue someone so you don't have to post a bond. You will also need to get residency to work there legally.

Marc... I will be in Sosua on the 31st of this month. Do you own Rockys?

JC - no, we eat their pizza as a regular staple, but I am a different Marc. Maybe we'll see you there...

marc
 

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I believe the advantages may lie in taxation gentlemen :)

Let me state clearly that I am no expert, but rather a well educated, middle aged, US lady, who has a fairly good memory!!!

depending on the amount of brugal involved!

If you are a citizen (I believe, not sure, AM NOT a R.D. laywer!), you may import a container (alot) of personal goods for no taxes, or at least very low taxes.

You may also bring in a car or vehicle, with fewer taxes... don't quote me on anything.... just a few conversations I've listened in on.

there are reasons to consider it, and I plan to, as the USA has no problem with it as far as I know...

I am in the process of trying to hire a lawyer in Puerta Plata... perhaps in the weeks to come, I can answer these questions... or someone else can!
I'd love to know for sure, Eh? (do canadians spell that just plain A? LOL!)

I would love for this to be spelled out on legal...
the advantages/disadvantages of a brit/uk or american becoming a dual citizen...

if wishes were horses...LOL!

peace, susan
 

jjsk

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Re: I believe the advantages may lie in taxation gentlemen :)

Susan said:

I'd love to know for sure, Eh? (do canadians spell that just plain A? LOL!)

peace, susan

Susan, you've got it right, the proper Canadian spelling is "Eh?" :D