a bad case of PRESIDENTE

Lucky you (sort of) - you can't even buy a bad Presidente here in Canada - anywhere...

And as for rum! The closest thing (geographically) to Dominican rum they sell here is Haitian rum and I think my husband would have a few choice words for me if I brought *that* home...So we settle for Cuban...

Que vaina.

It is not dominican presidente

first..i got to agree with you. presidente is the best beer in the mundo...no two ways about it.

second..the presidente sold in some parts of the usa is produced and bottled in arecibo in puerto rico. now why was it not frosted..simple. in the usa the alcohol percentage is controlled at a strict 6%. but our regular pequena in good old DR is anything from 8 to 12. that is why you see so many people get tipsy on a few presidentes..specially first timers from abroad.

with the low alcohol you cannot get to the vestido de novia stage as it becomes helado well before that.

in the usa..try the mexican negra modelo or the closest to presidente in mexico is victoria...ask AZB for second opinion.

cheers

"The born on date was Dec 14, is that fresh enough? The same thing happened when I got back to upstate NY, why is Presidente here so damn bad??????? "
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The date on the bottle is the "consume before" date not the "born on date".

I do not think that Presidente is made anywhere except in Santo Domingo. If the consume before date has passed, the beer dies. here the beer trucks go around and routinely pick up past due beer.

I will investigate further.

HB

Hillbilly is right. The presidente sold in USA and DR are the same beer, distilled and bottled in DR. Same content of alcohol. Its just the beer that is bottled here is consumed right away, fresh as opposed to the half cold bottle which reaches USA after a few weeks.

Presidente 8 to 12% ???????

I doubt that VERY much. More like 2 to 5%. As for the "Bad"taste, it could be because it was outdated. Presidente sell so much that I'm sure they have to "cut corners" when they brew it. I have had people tell me it's outright "Poison" and only drink imported beer. Even though it is the best seller in the DR, it is by far NOT the best beer on the planet but we don't have any choices. As they are one of the top (If not the top) tax payers in the DR, they put enough pressure on the Gov. to charge high import duties on other beers to make the cost so high that they cannot compete. BTW, I drink Presidente but I give a lot of thought to the preceeding.

The US$64,000 question

I posted this in the old forum. I hope it answers some of your questions.
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Many times I?ve read that the Presidente sold in USA is different from the beer sold in DR, I, not being a connoisseur myself, decided to find out about the ?mystery of the missing taste?. A source within The Corporation told me the secrets of the making of Presidente, well, not really, but I learnt what makes the beer from DR and US different: Nothing. It is exactly the same beer.

Surprised? Never mind. The Presidente people already heard complaints of the different taste and they have done their own research. Their theory is that people do believe that it tastes different, and you know what the power of self-suggestion can do to you. It is a powerful thing, _{^{it cannot make you fly as I learnt when I tried to fly off the roof of my house,}} but it can make you believe that the beer in DR is better.

According to my source, all the beer is brewed in the same tanks regardless of the final destination. When the production department gets an order to produce beer for export they just stop a line to switch the bottles. The bottles they use for export is not the same the same one they use for local consumption (they just look the same, are made of the same material and feel the same). They call the bottles for export ?one use bottles? as they will not return to be reused; the local bottles are not ?profitable? until they are used at least 4 times. The label is different too. The label used in Puerto Rico is also different from the ones used in Florida, New Jersey and New York for legal reasons. The ?neck label? may be different depending on whether the taxes have been paid in advance or not.

The beer may be affected by conditions of light, temperature, movement and time in stock. Apparently the beer for export should be consumed within the same time as the beer for the local market, but in average the thirsty Dominicans drink their beer within two days from production, the beer consumed in the US takes at least 5 days to get to the market. That may add a slight difference to the taste, but not significant. According to surveys made by Presidente there is nothing in the handling process that can affect the beer in such way as to make the taste different. Draw your own conclusions.





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Pib you are 99% accurate

The US$64,000 question
I posted this in the old forum. I hope it answers some of your questions.

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I also posted this on the old forum.
Presidente for EXPORT has ONE additional process. When it leaves the pasturizer, EXPORT Presidente is cooled rapidly in the pasturizer cooler. This process supposedly adds to the shelf life.
Last January (2001) I was given a tour of CND. I saw everything from where the grain comes in to where the Cervesa is shipped out.

Bad Presidente

The worst enemy of beer is the wild swings in temperature they withstand during transportation.
That is the reason you see a lot of european brewers licensing their products to amrerican bottlers.
If you hit a beer hole in Germany, you could gulp a few rounds and get up the next day like nothing happened. Drink the same beer in the states, next day you're barely breathing!
Until bottled in US or Canada, I stay away from Presidentes here.

DRtechie

Maybe this morning's hangover prompted my post. OR maybe it was that cheap wine. LOL.

Presidente at 8 - 12% alcohol

Missing-dr,

If you read the "fine print" on the Presidente label, it's written something like "guaranteed no more than 6% alcohol"

I think Eddy is right. I can be lower, but most likely not higher than 6%.

It is more than 8

believe me..i have friends who work in cerveceria nacional....and also..guaranteed in DR means Nada!!!

Unless......

......they accidentally drop a few bottles of Brugal "151" in the bin!!!!

In DR, who knows!

AZB said:

Hillbilly is right. The presidente sold in USA and DR are the same beer, distilled and bottled in DR. Same content of alcohol. Its just the beer that is bottled here is consumed right away, fresh as opposed to the half cold bottle which reaches USA after a few weeks.

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I can't speak for the rest of the USA but in the state of Florida no beer is allowed a alcohol content of over 4.75 % so the Presidente sold here is NOT the Same!

Tony C.

Jane J. said:

Lucky you (sort of) - you can't even buy a bad Presidente here in Canada - anywhere...

And as for rum! The closest thing (geographically) to Dominican rum they sell here is Haitian rum and I think my husband would have a few choice words for me if I brought *that* home...So we settle for Cuban...

Que vaina.

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Barbancourt Rum from Haiti is one of the finer rums produced on this planet. Much better than any Dominican Rum. The 4 Star Barbancourt is sipped like a fine congac!

As for Cuban Rum, It hasn't be produced since 1959. What your husband is drinking is the Sweat and blood of the Oppressed slaves of the Castro regime!

Tony C.

Tony_c wrong

TITLE XXXIV Alcoholic Beverages And Tobacco


568.01 Alcoholic content of intoxicating liquors.--For the purposes of this chapter, all liquors, wines, or beer containing more than 6.243 percent of alcohol by volume shall be deemed and held to be intoxicating liquors, wines, or beer and subject to the provisions of this chapter.



There is no state statute setting alcohol content of beer. Only the above that defines intoxicating beer.

barbancourt 4 Star is excellent. We used to sneak across he border to get it. Heard that the lesser Barbancourts have decreased in quality.

the colour of the glass has a lot to do with it,beer in green glass will spoil alot faster then beer in a brown bottle.