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    Default The campo is closer than you think

    Finally today I made a long delayed visit to see some of the gf's family who apparently lived in the less than welcoming barrio of Santo Domingo named Manoguayabo.

    Not so difficult a drive out via Luperon and 27th before turning into Av de Los Beisbolistas and then turning at the Cruz de Managuayabo.

    But then we drove and drove and drove until soon after crossing the new ring road and into a very rural Managuayabo......... along way from beginning to end of this barrio.

    Very simple surroundings on the edge of the city with the mountain vistas in the close distance and Rio Haina close by.

    Got the usual excellent local family welcome and an excellent simple local Dominican feed in a simple wooden shack.

    Now the family own a colmado alongside and the locals including a police colonel were already imbibing so we joined in. Frankly the most basic of surroundings and more basic than where I lived north of Villa Altagracia in the campo. Great.

    It was superbly enjoyable and made me think back of the campo where I once lived for many years. A simple life without trimmings. Poor people enjoying their weekend relief with plenty of drink. Happiness Dominican style that not so many DR1 members see. A lot of legal Haitians too, living at the edges of the city where they can afford.

    In discussions I quickly realized we were right next to Rio Haina and not far on the opposite side is the San Cristobel to Villa Altagracia road which is one of my favorite drives.

    On the way back I was escorted to a dirt road which joined the ring road and took that road to Haina joining 30 de Mayo and was back home in less than 15 minutes albeit with a 100rd toll fee.

    The campo is close to the city and I love it.

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    Sorry, I cant get too excited about poor people wasting their money on alcohol. Poverty culture is sad and you could leave quickly to the comfort of your own home. Lets not idealize poverty, filth etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfp View Post
    Sorry, I cant get too excited about poor people wasting their money on alcohol. Poverty culture is sad and you could leave quickly to the comfort of your own home. Lets not idealize poverty, filth etc
    It's not wasting, it is utilizing. struggle and celebrate. Otherwise, I'm quite in agreement with your sentiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfp View Post
    Sorry, I cant get too excited about poor people wasting their money on alcohol. Poverty culture is sad and you could leave quickly to the comfort of your own home. Lets not idealize poverty, filth etc
    Simplicity is not filthy...d*ck

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfp View Post
    Sorry, I cant get too excited about poor people wasting their money on alcohol. Poverty culture is sad and you could leave quickly to the comfort of your own home. Lets not idealize poverty, filth etc
    Poor by who's standards ?

    The Colonel is impoverished ?

    Just a different life.

    Personally, I am considered poor by some factions of society.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by william webster View Post
    Poor by who's standards ?

    The Colonel is impoverished ?

    Just a different life.

    Personally, I am considered poor by some factions of society.....
    I also have had jabs at me for being poor when I have admitted that I live on less than $1000.00 USD monthly, but most Dominicans live on less than half of that.
    But I too am appalled to see people spending money on booze when their kids cannot go to school for lack of shoes.
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    Sorry rfp.

    Our home is in the campo. Yes, many of our neighbors are very poor, but I have to say there is no filth. Their homes, as humble as they are, are always spotless and neat as a pin. The women are constantly sweeping, even outside. Before they paved the road, you'd see them out there every day sprinkling water on the dirt road in front of their homes.

    They're also personally clean. Despite the heat, I've never smelled body odor from any of them, even construction workers.

    Our maid is also our neighbor. She mops every floor in our house in the morning, cooks lunch [comparable to a big dinner in the US, for those unaware], and then mops again through the kitchen and dining area. I once asked her why she mops twice. "Because maybe some oil splattered, or I dropped something, we don't want mice or bugs to come".

    Yes, everyone knows everyone's business, but almost everyone except us is related in some way.




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    Quote Originally Posted by william webster View Post
    Poor by who's standards ?

    The Colonel is impoverished ?

    Just a different life.

    Personally, I am considered poor by some factions of society.....
    The point I try to make in this thread is that campo life, which is significantly different from often a very harsh city life, is found close to the city and at the weekends the people in the campo can put the hardships of their daily struggle behind them for a short time and enjoy a clean respectful simple life.

    And the development that is occurring within this developing land is beginning to reach them. there is a the new ring road right on their doorsteps and they can now travel in guaguas quickly to the city.......one passed me coming of the new road. Equally just up the road there is a new school which will be receiving students again today.

    The biggest moaners in this world are westerners who try and judge their standards against what occurs here in daily life in developing countries such as DR. Yet it is those same people who confine themselves to limited areas, sometimes drink themselves stupid at beach resorts and never share the life experience of the campo yet talk the talk.

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    I can't believe what I am reading. So, If you have money than its OK to have a beer or two? Like spending a couple hundred pesos on a couple of beers on Friday or Saturday night is going to change their socioeconomic situation. Then others want to put poverty and filth in the same category is exactly why such class discrimination exists all over the world. Saying oh because they are poor..they must be filthy too...These exact perspectives is what separates human beings from each other even more, and perpetuates not only poverty but discrimination, and discrimination leads to disease, starvation, war, and death.... and to Derfish if you are appalled and really feel something...Go buy some shoes and hand them out..You can afford it!!!

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    jul10

    I understand your point.... and respect it, and share it.

    as for others................. dunno

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