Air Berlin will disappear.

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Air aberlin will pass 40 planes to Eurowings, *the rest will be merged with TUI Fly and will be managed by Etihad as a tourist carrier.*
 
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Air Berlin will
- pass some aircraft (A319/A320) to Eurowings under wet lease/ ACMI arrangement. Flying under Air Berlin AOC. These will be aircraft/routes that are not based out of DUS and BER.
- pass some other short haul aircraft (A320s) to a new joint venture that will be set up between Etihad and TUI. This JV will also consist of aircraft that currently TUIfly flies and aircraft TUIFly wet leases to Air Berlin (A738s). AB will also place all aircraft currently with it's 100% owned sub Fly Nikki (320s) to the new JV. Fly Nikki will basically disappear as a brand.
-concentrate on being a network carrier with hubs in DUS and TXL (with future eyes on ever-troubling BER), with reduced fleet but more strengthened operations.
- Air Berlin will increase long haul flying as the current long haul routes are very profitable for AB.

There is no information what will happen to long haul leisure routes (such as POP, PUJ, CUN) as the releases only mention short haul leisure routes (such as PMI) going to the new JV carrier between Etihad and Tuifly, and only A320 going to fly wet-leased for Eurowings.

http://www.airberlingroup.com/en/pr...ring-of-airberlin-to-deliver-long-term-growth
http://airsoc.com/articles/view/id/...567/etihad-tui-group-plan-new-leisure-airline
 

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Air Berlin will merge with *TUI Fly and it will become a new airline that will serve only short haul flights, 75% will belong to Etihad.*

Airline is dead already with 1,2 billion Euros debt.*
 
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Air Berlin will merge with *TUI Fly and it will become a new airline that will serve only short haul flights, 75% will belong to Etihad.*

Airline is dead already with 1,2 billion Euros debt.*

You probably cannot read, can you?

Yes, the airline has a tonload of debt (most of it owed to a shareholder Etihad, so it's an in-house liability) and quite possibly this is a start of a mid-term managed liquidation, but for now it exists and will exist.

From the press release above:

Dedicated, focused network carrier will serve higher-yielding markets from Berlin and Dusseldorf, with a core fleet of 75 aircraft, as a leaner, more efficient business (this is for the "will exist part". This will be the future form of Air Berlin)


Touristic business separated into an independently operating business unit as strategic options are evaluated **


Up to 40 aircraft to be provided to the Lufthansa Group*, reducing excess capacity while protecting employment and minimising restructuring costs (ACMI lease)


** from the second article:
" ... the new holding company could be based in Austria, with Etihad and TUI each taking a 24.9% stake. The remaining 50.2% is expected to be held by an Austrian foundation .... still-to-be-named airline is planning a fleet of 14 Boeing 737s (currently operated by TUIfly for airberlin under a wet-lease agreement), 27 TUIfly 737NGs, as well as 17 Airbus A320 family aircraft from Austrian airberlin subsidiary FlyNiki...
 

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TUI fly is in big trouble! they did not fly today at all...left the tourists stranded... the reason the personal and pilots did not go to work because due to "sickness" ...
 

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If Air Berlin stops flying to DR that is bad news, there would be less competition and choice. We used to have 3 or 4 carriers flying out of UK to DR (like how it is now from Germany), and now just left with a lousy one or two with reduced flights and inflexible options.

I sometime wonder if this idea of capitalism sorting itself out with market forces and competition really works with companies merging and buying out each other and then you left with a few that form the cartels and rule the market and abuse their power and the consumer...! You can see it in all businesses these day, look at telecomms.
 

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So true… seems to be a business model.

It works as:

The big guys to crowd out the small operators offer great rates and attract new customers that previously were buying from the little guys who competitiveness offered good rates. Once they strangle the little guys, they up the rates, and now with the others out of the picture, they are the only option.

Is also happening in the printing business…*
 

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I sometime wonder if this idea of capitalism sorting itself out with market forces and competition really works with companies merging and buying out each other and then you left with a few that form the cartels and rule the market and abuse their power and the consumer...! You can see it in all businesses these day, look at telecomms.

And beer in the DR
 

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how am i gonna get home now? options for berlin have always been limited and now it's only gonna get worse?
i hope the executives will suffer from anal warts. damn.
 
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You probably cannot read, can you?

probably the information you have belongs to Air Berlin and their version of what they want. Etihad has a different point if view and since they are the company that will assume all depts, younshould wait until they will decide.*
 
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Well Etihad had been accused multiple times of overstepping the boundaries of their supposedly non controlling stake and supposedly not exercising management control. Their dismantling of Air Berlin in absolute terms would make it absolutely clear that they are in violation of EU aviation laws by exercising effective control, which they as a non EU airline cannot do. That would effectively open a can of warms and provide a splendid opportunity for Ryanair and EasyJet to bring action in front of EU commission and that could cause even the Eurowings partnership and ACMI leased being scrapped as illegal, being done under illegal management control / exercise. So Etihad will be very careful what it does and how it does it, like it or not. Everyone silently knows they have effective control but there is no proof, so they are not going to do anything which would be a smoking gun showing they have /had effective management control of Air Berlin and therefore are in violation of EU aviation laws which prohibit foreign majority ownership or effective control of EU airlines exercised by non EU airlines or non EU citizens. From an ownership and effective control viewpoint, a Romanian can call shots in Swedish airline and a Bulgarian can call shots in German airline and Spaniard can call shots in a Latvian airline and a Greek in a Dutch or Swiss airline. An Emirati airline cannot in either, regardless of the fact that its CEO Baumgartner is Swiss.
 
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yes, but in this case money will decide everything, it is about life or death for Air Berlin, esoecially now when turkish company Anes Tour plans to open a subsidiary of Azur Air in Germany.
 
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Large airlines (regardless of abysmal shape they may be in) are not afraid of wannabe small startups, anywhere.

There were already several German wannabe-leisure airlines, so far none got off the ground. I am very well versed in commercial aviation and it is very very very hard to start up a new airline.
 

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